Can someone name the last five horrible john cena matches?

[StatUS]

All those names can work tho and the Brock match was a gimmick match, which Cena excels in. Name some of these matches when theres been no gimmick attached to it, when he has to work with shyt in the ring and pulled off a match that left you not bad Cena

Who's a shyt worker in the main event scene right now though? The worst Cena's ever worked a program with was Khali and those were his best matches.

I dunno but when I look at the E right now one thing that's for sure is most of these guys can work.

 

[Jackson LeRoy Briggs]

You can't name many bad Cena matches period. Far back as his debut he's been solid.

Though he was a lot better when he first started out since he was allowed to be something other than a spot wrestler.

 

[krackdagawd]

Who's a shyt worker in the main event scene right now though? The worst Cena's ever worked a program with was Khali and those were his best matches.

I dunno but when I look at the E right now one thing that's for sure is most of these guys can work.

when he has good matches it's everyone's fault except his but when he has bad ones it's his and his alone.

 

[Kunty McPhuck]

I remember him having a good match with Mark Henry this year. No gimmics but let me guess Mark is known as a great worker. :smugcoke:

This year he has pretty much only wrestled Punk/Bryan/Big Show/Ziggler and I think Jericho not sure.

The only match I remember not being so great was against Big Show and even that wasn't so bad.

I could come up with excuses for his bad matches just as you do for his good matches but I don't have the same agenda as you. The OP was about Cena's recent run of great matches and I totally agree.

Proceed with your iwc'n

Thats all you had to say, instead of the long pointless exchange.

My agenda was to find out his decent/entertainin matches with shyt (people not regarded as workers) thats it. I didnt really shyt on Cena or call him So I dont know what you thought my agenda was tbh

Youre IWC too

 

[krackdagawd]

Thats all you had to say, instead of the long pointless exchange.

My agenda was to find out his decent/entertainin matches with shyt (people not regarded as workers) thats it. I didnt really shyt on Cena or call him So I dont know what you thought my agenda was tbh

Youre IWC too

You were posting like there weren't any and when I gave you examples you want to attach a stipulation when in reality a good match is a good match. No one cares about all that other bullshyt except for the iwc.

I agree I'm a part of the iwc but not this hipster like fakkitry of hating everything that's popular just because or arguing about ratings I make no money off of like most of the posters here.

 

[GoddamnyamanProf]

That's the thing though his character isn't for us, it's for kids and women.

Right but then he never should have been made the face of the company. That's the problem with Cena and ultimately the problem with the WWE in its current state.

 

[StatUS]

Right but then he never should have been made the face of the company. That's the problem with Cena and ultimately the problem with the WWE in its current state.

Who should be the face then. Besides Lesnar, who left, no one else was a bigger draw.

 

[krackdagawd]

Right but then he never should have been made the face of the company. That's the problem with Cena and ultimately the problem with the WWE in its current state.

Who should be the face of the company then? Cena is the only one capable of doing that right now imo.

The E isn't catered to us anymore brehs, at one point it was but those days are gone and I don't think they are coming back any time soon.

I look at it like we have to deal with Cena to get the Punk/D Bry/Ziggler/Shield fukkery that we love and with Cena's current run there hasn't been that much bad to deal with anyway.

 

[Kunty McPhuck]

You were posting like there weren't any and when I gave you examples you want to attach a stipulation when in reality a good match is a good match. No one cares about all that other bullshyt except for the iwc.
I agree I'm a part of the iwc but not this hipster like fakkitry of hating everything that's popular just because or arguing about ratings I make no money off of like most of the posters here.

I was just intrigued to know what good/decent Cena 1 on 1 matches were out there when he didnt have a good worker or it werent a gimmick match which I said he does well in. Like his I Quit Match with JBL, the whatever match it was with Khali, the TLC with Edge, cannot remember if his gimmick match with Dc Dave was good all i remember from that is that it has a clusterfukk finish. Youre right a good match is a good match but I had to filter it out to get past the usual suspects who generally put on good matches as theyre usual default answers and how boring is that.

I dont give too shyts about ratings either, because as we've seen with some of our fave tv shows thruout the years they been good but have died because they dont do the ratings that the networks require. When really the only numbers people should care about is buyrates like it always has been. The ratings is people trollin each other so each faction can go when whoever they argue against.

Tbh I like debating and I'm a c*nt with it

 

[GoddamnyamanProf]

I don't know, thats not my job. Im sure they should've been able to find someone in the last 10+ YEARS that their core audience doesn't despise. Of course the reality of the situation is that never happened because they don't care. Cena wasnt conceived as a "for kids and women" character, he was supposed to appeal to everyone with the hip hop gimmick and all that. Its just that when fans turned on him, they refused to follow conventional wisdom and adjust his character so now its this goofy "troll the fans" dynamic we have today. Some have adapted the mindset of krack but a lot of people didn't feel like enduring that and just stopped watching. Hustling backwards.

 

[Golayitdown]

when he has good matches it's everyone's fault except his but when he has bad ones it's his and his alone.

Sounds kinda like the ratings talk

You were posting like there weren't any and when I gave you examples you want to attach a stipulation when in reality a good match is a good match. No one cares about all that other bullshyt except for the iwc.

I agree I'm a part of the iwc but not this hipster like fakkitry of hating everything that's popular just because or arguing about ratings I make no money off of like most of the posters here.

Exactly, I damn sure could watch a great gimmick match every month like the Shield vs. Hell No/Ryback....

Right but then he never should have been made the face of the company. That's the problem with Cena and ultimately the problem with the WWE in its current state.

I think that the problem isn't that Cena is where he is right now. The early part of his run (say through like 05-06) was successful. The problem is that he's the only guy that is were he is now. They never built up a parallel competitor or group of guys with him. There should have not be a huge gap between Cena and his next closest replacement/successor/etc. Not only did they force him down the throats of the fans, but they never gave a viable alternative. They didn't even change him for the better and now everybody is like when you mention dude's name.


If he had a Rock to his Austin ( not turning this into a Rock thread) when he was coming up, there wouldn't be an issue with him being on top for so long cause he and that guy or those guys would be seen as near equals. They could have feuded on and off and kept an era afloat together.

Now when they try to build up somebody else (i.e. Punk or even Ziggler recently), it's too little, too late cause not only is Cena outdated, but he's been on top for so long that NOBODY even believes these dudes can legitimately win a match against him. Then they not only reinforce that, but have him win in the most ways or lose after some random bullshyt happens. The only people who even sound believable are legends/older stars (Rock/HHH/Lesnar/Taker)....

 

[Daracell]

 

[Rarely-Wrong Liggins]

I don't know, thats not my job. Im sure they should've been able to find someone in the last 10+ YEARS that their core audience doesn't despise.

Who's their core audience? TSC? Smarks? If their core audience hated him so much it would reflect in his matches, segments and PPVs ratings/numbers. Only person who's having that problem is your boy CM Punk.

 

[PURP!]

the last five raw's.

 

[The Great One]

That wasn't that bad of a match.