Can somebody up the video of Ron Jaworski on First take?

[BAMBA]

no, no, no

Andrew Luck has not out performed either RG3 or Wilson. He should not be considered.

 

[MikeBrownsJob]

Outside of yardage, andrew lucks numbers are fukking horrible. No way you win any awards with a damn 75 QBR.

QBR was a great indicator of success when Luck was leading the two. Now it is irrelevant.

Quarterback percentage?

TD's?

Int?

None of that matters? Luck is better
@JLova

take the blood soaked panties with you

 

[Mr swag]

Because Steven A asked him the same question that gets dodged in here
He asked "When speaking on A.Luck, what does that mean to you when he has 8 & 13 more int's than Russel or Robert
His QBR is 30/40pts lower than Russ/RG3
What does that say to you?

This nikka Ron then looked like a Dear in the headlights as he bullshytted a answer
White Excellence

this what luck supporters do in here

 

[FTBS]

luck is the only one of the 3 that doesnt play in a dumbed down offensive system and excellent run game. Kirk cousin won while rg3 was out so * his season and wilson plays on a beast defensive team so asked to manage games not win

Well if the "dumbed down" system is the answer why doesn't every team just do it? Being asked to do more is only relevant if you still put up better or at the very least comparable numbers while doing so. I'm pretty sure RGIII could complete < 60% of his passes and produce a 1:1 TD/INT ratio if asked to do more.

 

[HacksawJimThuggin]

Give Luck Marshawn Lynch and a beast ass defense and I'm sure his numbers would look much different.


You dudes throw out numbers with no context attached to them. Do I think Luck should win ROY? Probably not, but I can see the argument that could be made for him over the other two guys. But y'all on some "one of these dudes clearly don't belong" after posting their stats is just a lazy ass assessment.



Brian Hartline has 1,000+ receiving this year. Are you gonna tell me he's a better receiver than the likes of Eric Decker, Randall Cobb, Miles Austin, Michael Crabtree, Brandon Lloyd, etc., all of which who have less receiving yards than him? Of course not. Context.

Just using the eye test, Russell Wilson has played better than RG3 and Luck to me. But each of them have a legitimate argument to the ROY award, so fukk outta here with that "it's not even close" and "one of these guys clearly doesn't belong" shyt.

Fact of the matter is, each of them have taken on different roles and different things are expected of them by their teams on a weekly basis, so trying to blindly standardize that on paper using numbers is retarded as fukk.

 

[blazn101]

luck is the only one of the 3 that doesnt play in a dumbed down offensive system and excellent run game. Kirk cousin won while rg3 was out so * his season and wilson plays on a beast defensive team so asked to manage games not win

I think if you put RG3 on the colts he could run that offense,
he throws a great deep ball. and without as many turnovers.

 

[Street Knowledge]

Buffalo Bills vs. Arizona Cardinals - Box Score - October 14, 2012 - ESPN

Brad Smith: 0-1, 1 INT, 98.3 QBR.

QBR is

Passer rating/Completetion percentage/TD to interception ratio/YPA are the most important numbers.

And luck is

 

[courtdog]

no, no, no


the award is based on who has performed the best, basically how he has performed statistically. This is not to say Luck is not a good QB, but statistically he should not be in the OROY running. Hell no. The 26 turnovers is not a good look. You can say the offensive system sucks, and you can point to his running game being bad, but dude's Passer rating stinks, his completion percentage stinks, he turns the ball over too much, Andrew Luck has not out performed either RG3 or Wilson. He should not be considered.

It is not just a statistically based award, though. Anyways, I really don't care who wins but how folk shyt on Luck is disturbing.

So telling the truth is shytting on Luck? Why, cuz the TRUTH makes him look bad
I see something else disturbing right now...

Give Luck Marshawn Lynch and a beast ass defense and I'm sure his numbers would look much different.


You dudes throw out numbers with no context attached to them. Do I think Luck should win ROY? Probably not, but I can see the argument that could be made for him over the other two guys. But y'all on some "one of these dudes clearly don't belong" after posting their stats is just a lazy ass assessment.

You had more, but I really have to stop you at the bold. You see, you say "if this/that then Luck would be better"
Ok, well when Luck is better. Then he can be in this convo. But he's not
The other two ARE BETTER. You wanna fault them for having better teams?
Then I have to look at J-Lova's previous post about RACE not being an issue

Then I ask myself, why is this the exact argument they use for Peyton Manning Well, he should win it cuz look at how many wins they haaaaaave like if his team isn't the reason for that

White Excellence

 

[JLova]

Give Luck Marshawn Lynch and a beast ass defense and I'm sure his numbers would look much different.


You dudes throw out numbers with no context attached to them. Do I think Luck should win ROY? Probably not, but I can see the argument that could be made for him over the other two guys. But y'all on some "one of these dudes clearly don't belong" after posting their stats is just a lazy ass assessment.



Brian Hartline has 1,000+ receiving this year. Are you gonna tell me he's a better receiver than the likes of Eric Decker, Randall Cobb, Miles Austin, Michael Crabtree, Brandon Lloyd, etc., all of which who have less receiving yards than him? Of course not. Context.

Just using the eye test, Russell Wilson has played better than RG3 and Luck to me. But each of them have a legitimate argument to the ROY award, so fukk outta here with that "it's not even close" and "one of these guys clearly doesn't belong" shyt.

Fact of the matter is, each of them have taken on different roles and different things are expected of them by their teams on a weekly basis, so trying to blindly standardize that on paper using numbers is retarded as fukk.

Someone with sense.

 

[The War Report]

Luck will have the better career out of the 3. He has the big body to take the big hits but also is mobile enough to get out of the pocket and extend plays.

 

[mastermind]

It is not just a statistically based award, though. Anyways, I really don't care who wins but how folk shyt on Luck is disturbing.

no one has shytted on Luck. Not even close.

And no, it has always been a statistical award. Cam won it last year even tho Andy Dalton made the playoffs.

Luck has nothing on Wilson or RG3. shyt he has nothing on Alfred Morris or Doug Martin. Luck's numbers are well below all of those guys. I think he is going to be a great QB, but nothing he has done this year should merit him consideration for OROY over all 4 of those guys. Nothing.

 

[South Paw]

luck is the only one of the 3 that doesnt play in a dumbed down offensive system and excellent run game. Kirk cousin won while rg3 was out so * his season and wilson plays on a beast defensive team so asked to manage games not win

Luck also has the best WR out of any of those 3 teams.

 

[Street Knowledge]

Rookie of the year in every single major sport is almost universally based on who has the best stats. That's it

 

[the bossman]

Give Luck Marshawn Lynch and a beast ass defense and I'm sure his numbers would look much different.


You dudes throw out numbers with no context attached to them. Do I think Luck should win ROY? Probably not, but I can see the argument that could be made for him over the other two guys. But y'all on some "one of these dudes clearly don't belong" after posting their stats is just a lazy ass assessment.



Brian Hartline has 1,000+ receiving this year. Are you gonna tell me he's a better receiver than the likes of Eric Decker, Randall Cobb, Miles Austin, Michael Crabtree, Brandon Lloyd, etc., all of which who have less receiving yards than him? Of course not. Context.

Just using the eye test, Russell Wilson has played better than RG3 and Luck to me. But each of them have a legitimate argument to the ROY award, so fukk outta here with that "it's not even close" and "one of these guys clearly doesn't belong" shyt.

Fact of the matter is, each of them have taken on different roles and different things are expected of them by their teams on a weekly basis, so trying to blindly standardize that on paper using numbers is retarded as fukk.

real talk tho I would call it a 3 way tie

 

[courtdog]

Someone with sense.

Unlike the rest of these animals

You c/s the whole "If Luck had this/that" angle only means one thing
You don't give that nod to black QB's so you are racially bias
How come you never once in your lame life said this... "If RG3 threw the ball 200 more times he'd have twice as many TD's?
Russel Already has more TD's, how many would he have it he threw it more?
How many more yards would both of them have if they did that?

You guys don't say shyt like that, unless you talking about Luck. Then anything another team does well you try to use as a fault against RG3/Russel
I can expect that type of idiocy online, but when its used on ESPN?
Yeah, thats that racial element you spoke on earlier...

Miss me with the race crap. I'm not even going to discuss this topic with you if you're bringing up race cuz that never factors into my assessments of players. fukk outta here.