Can pedophiles use the "born this way" argument?

[the cac mamba]

I know where I live.... being gay isn't an issue.

However, consent is irrelevant when speaking of desires..... like women who have rape fantasies, people who like animal p*ssy, etc..... The OP was talking about the mentality without action.

and i have kids, so I'm condoning ANY of this shyt...... but I think the point of the thread is that if a sexual disorder is a disorder then they all should be considered that.

frankly i think you cant have the debate without mentioning consent, because it plays too big of a part in it. i read the OP again and even tho i cant say that i really disagree with it, i still think ppl are born how they are

the other thing (personally) is that a large segment of the anti-'born this way' argument is ignorant christians, a group that i could never cosign

 

[Mr. Somebody]

Not until the psychologist community cosigns their demonic filth like they did when they sold out and cosigned moisture.

All the downlow demons will come out once more respected professors and shrinks start cosigning.

Its so demonic, friends.

 

[Blackking]

frankly i think you cant have the debate without mentioning consent, because it plays too big of a part in it. i read the OP again and even tho i cant say that i really disagree with it, i still think ppl are born how they are

the other thing (personally) is that a large segment of the anti-'born this way' argument is ignorant christians, a group that i could never cosign

girl girl homosexually is probably the least attacked thing on the planet. If they separated from trans and male gay movements then they would have easy roads ahead.

transexuals are sometime deceitful, so that's y people don' t like them.

male male homosexuality has a troubling history, in history. boys have always been captured and 'used' for soldiers in ancient times.. and then in greece it was just demonic and not fully by choice.

in modern times we see the studies that show a link between gays and pedophilia... and nearly 100% of lil boys who are raped are raped by gay grown men. there are groups promoting gay boy/man sex and the vast majority of molestation is coming from people with sexual desires that are left unchecked. So that's y people go so hard at it. And in these 3rd nations kill for it because historically lil boys have been raped and it wasn't by consent and..........

what do u call a man who rapes lil boys -- gay or pedophile or both? it's confusing when u allow 1 thing and don't allow another......... or call one thing Normal and call another thing sick.

 

[DaChampIsHere]

Because, being attracted to a child involves some form of being attracted to naivety and the ability to exploit those weaker/younger/more than likely less experienced.

That's a perversion in itself.

Even as a friend/regular person, if you are known for hanging out with weaker individuals and those that you can manipulate, people will feel some kind of way about you. Add actual sexual attraction and make it kids, and damn right you're disgusting.

If you can't understand that, you are probably warped yourself.

 

[Type Username Here]

Consent, Consent, Consent.

If a heterosexual male has sex with a heterosexual woman who happens to be in a coma, is that a crime? Let's say that they are complete strangers.

If you think the above is a crime, why is it a crime?

 

[Busted_Toes]

Because, being attracted to a child involves some form of being attracted to naivety and the ability to exploit those weaker/younger/more than likely less experienced.

That's a perversion in itself.

Even as a friend/regular person, if you are known for hanging out with weaker individuals and those that you can manipulate, people will feel some kind of way about you. Add actual sexual attraction and make it kids, and damn right you're disgusting.

If you can't understand that, you are probably warped yourself.

Why is it every damn time, someone questions something, they get accused of it?

If someone questions homosexuality, they have homosexual desires
If someone questions pedophilia, they have pedophile desires

is this the standard deflection tactic? answer the question fukkboi.

I don't agree with neither, why should i look at one as sick and not the other?

 

[AquaCityBoy]

Coli logic:

Hates it when people compare gay rights to black rights
Loves to compare homosexuality to bestiality and pedophilia

Higher Learning, y'all.

 

[DaChampIsHere]

Why is it every damn time, someone questions something, they get accused of it?

If someone questions homosexuality, they have homosexual desires
If someone questions pedophilia, they have pedophile desires
?

Because if you imply that you think fukking a consenting adult is equal to and just like exploiting the naivety of a child then I have to question your moral ground. The two are the same to you. Considering such, what's stoping you from messing around with a child yourself if it's just like fukking a consenting adult?

 

[NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong]

the OP was about social stigma associated. We live in a pick and choose society..... marrying 4 wives is illegal for example.

people who are attracted to animals and youth are considered to have a criminal mentality when their disorders aren't any more unusual than homosexuality. And the op asked .....

Why is the pedophile called "sick" but the homosexual isn't? without any action taking place.

So there are just as many pedophiles and people interested in bestiality as there are homosexuals? I know you said unusual and not uncommon, but Id beg to differ and would wager that, in terms of disorders, something deemed as "unusual" is based on the number of instances. I guess that your theory isn't necessarily false because it isn't verifiable (maybe there are as many people interested in pedo or bestiality as there are homosexuals, I doubt it but who knows)

Acting upon their desires requires a justification if juxtaposed with enforcing the law. You are arguing against moral relativism, which is fine, but I feel like pedophilia and bestiality are completely different than homosexuality. The former (when acted upon), is taking advantage of the ability to control and overpower without proper consent. This makes it morally corrupt and justified to be illegal. Especially in a society that largely deems it as such.

So let's say, someone genetically predisposed to being an alcoholic was raised in an abusive environment. Does that justify this person to drink in excess to the detriment of others and be abusive?

 

[Busted_Toes]

Coli logic:

Hates it when people compare gay rights to black rights
Loves to compare homosexuality to bestiality and pedophilia

Higher Learning, y'all.

Gay rights doesn't compare to slavery, lynching, torture, rape, poor education, medical experiments, police brutality, racism, white washing history, segregation etc. You know Gays wouldn't compare their struggle to the Holocaust but you c00ns cosign them comparing it to the black struggle.

Homosexuality can be compared to bestiliaty and pedophilila because it is a sexual attraction. Just because you and me don't agree on it, doesn't mean your right. fakkit.

 

[Busted_Toes]

Because if you imply that you think fukking a consenting adult is equal to and just like exploiting the naivety of a child then I have to question your moral ground. The two are the same to you. Considering such, what's stoping you from messing around with a child yourself if it's just like fukking a consenting adult?

nikka did you read the original post? I said it fukkin twice, WITHOUT ACTION. I don't want to repeat myself again. A pedophile could use the "born this way" argument and i'd have no right to judge him, right?

 

[AquaCityBoy]

Gay rights doesn't compare to slavery, lynching, torture, rape, poor education, medical experiments, police brutality, racism, white washing history, segregation etc. You know Gays wouldn't compare their struggle to the Holocaust but you c00ns cosign them comparing it to the black struggle.

Homosexuality can be compared to bestiliaty and pedophilila because it is a sexual attraction. Just because you and me don't agree on it, doesn't mean your right. fakkit.

Higher Learning.

 

[Busted_Toes]

Higher Learning.

 

[DaChampIsHere]

nikka did you read the original post? I said it fukkin twice, WITHOUT ACTION. I don't want to repeat myself again. A pedophile could use the "born this way" argument and i'd have no right to judge him, right?

Even the THOUGHT of preying on someone else's naivety/inexperience is sick so what's your point?

You think it's cool to around having thoughts of preying on those weaker and less experienced when they can't event consent because of such + laws? FOH.

You're the one who keeps comparing homosexuality (something that is between 2 consenting adults) to something involving children and those who can't consent.

And no one told you that you could judge homos. Do whatever the fukk you want in your bring. But don't compare to a sick nikka who gets off on even the thought of manipulating a child and not think you're a weirdo.

 

[Busted_Toes]

Even the THOUGHT of preying on someone else's naivety/inexperience is sick so what's your point?

You think it's cool to around having thoughts of preying on those weaker and less experienced when they can't event consent because of such + laws? FOH.

You're the one who keeps comparing homosexuality (something that is between 2 consenting adults) to something involving children and those who can't consent.

And no one told you that you could judge homos. Do whatever the fukk you want in your bring. But don't compare to a sick nikka who gets off on even the thought of manipulating a child and not think you're a weirdo.

you still aren't getting my point. I view the pedophile as sick. If the pedophile is "Born this way", i can't look at him as sick, right?