Can pedophiles use the "born this way" argument?

[Busted_Toes]

If a man said he'd always been sexually attracted to children, how is that argument any different from the homosexual "born this way" argument? This is without any action on that attraction taking place.

Why is the pedophile called "sick" but the homosexual isn't?

I repeat, this is without any action taken place.

So does he have a mental condition, sick or "born this way"?

Explain it to me. Don't bring the "two consenting adults" argument because i'm talking about "born this way" sexual attraction.

 

[Blackking]

Obviously ur gay.

 

[Busted_Toes]

Obviously ur gay.

Not at all, but explain to me why i should look at them any different than a pedophile?

 

[IAmGettingAMailOrderBride]

Because if you look at the average molestor he is 30+ yrs old and that's when they start going for the young ones, most were attracted to little kids when they were 20, 25

Homosexuals on the other hand they knew the were different, it might be that guy who hangs out with all girls and he dressed a bit weird or had that flamboyant tone, it was already hinted out that something might not be straight about gays.

 

[thekingsmen]

The only candidates for "Born that way" are those who were mentally and physically handicap. Everything else is bullshyt.

 

[Blackking]

Not at all, but explain to me why i should look at them any different than a pedophile?

because logic doesn't apply to gay rights issues. Do u live under a rock or something?

 

[NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong]

Even if it possible to claim such a thing (there currently is not) such crimes will never be justifiable.

 

[Blackking]

Even if it possible to claim such a thing (there currently is not) such crimes will never be justifiable.

this just isn't true.

Pedophilia researches have few resources to rely on due to it being a crime to even possess these feelings and people who go to speak with doctors about their feeling are turned in and investigated.

If with those limitations science has shown that some people have these desires naturally. It's like homosexuality, some are living out things that happened as youth and some are born that way.

Also, anything can be justified with more research, study, and understanding. Not rape of children, but someone having the desires can be considered as normal as other disorders such as homosexuality.

 

[NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong]

this just isn't true.

Pedophilia researches have few resources to rely on due to it being a crime to even possess these feelings and people who go to speak with doctors about their feeling are turned in and investigated.

If with those limitations science has shown that some people have these desires naturally. It's like homosexuality, some are living out things that happened as youth and some are born that way.

Also, anything can be justified with more research, study, and understanding. Not rape of children, but someone having the desires can be considered as normal as other disorders such as homosexuality.

I said crimes, implying they would be acted upon. Those desires shouldnt be considered normal or morally acceptable though, either.

 

[Blackking]

I said crimes, implying they would be acted upon.

the OP was about social stigma associated. We live in a pick and choose society..... marrying 4 wives is illegal for example.

people who are attracted to animals and youth are considered to have a criminal mentality when their disorders aren't any more unusual than homosexuality. And the op asked .....

Why is the pedophile called "sick" but the homosexual isn't? without any action taking place.

 

[Hawaiian Punch]

Even if it possible to claim such a thing (there currently is not) such crimes will never be justifiable.

They were in Ancient Rome and are in Afghanistan

 

[KyokushinKarateMan]

If a man said he'd always been sexually attracted to children, how is that argument any different from the homosexual "born this way" argument? This is without any action on that attraction taking place.

Why is the pedophile called "sick" but the homosexual isn't?

I repeat, this is without any action taken place.

So does he have a mental condition, sick or "born this way"?

Explain it to me. Don't bring the "two consenting adults" argument because i'm talking about "born this way" sexual attraction.

You are exactly right, although those who are drunk off of today's ever so popular false sense of "open mindedness" because they "accept" homosexuality, will try to disagree. It doesn't fit in with today's "pop-logic free for all moral outlook and if you don't think like us you're judging", mentality. But, you are right. It is all sexual deviancy, and it's all sick, or maybe one could say a sick-ness.

You have one sick individual who is sexually stimulated by molesting/having sex with children
one who is sexually stimulated by being with a member of their OWN sex
one who is sexually stimulated by being with animals(beastiality)
and one who is sexually stimulated by taking sex by force(rape)

Each sexual deviant/deviancy listed is a sickness, it is a sick act by a sick individual. None should be more "accepted" than the other, although obviously some deserve to be illegal and should be dealt with under the harshest of judicial procedures. But anyone with an ounce of awareness can plainly see why it has been homosexuality that has been the one thrust upon the public as "favorable" and "different" than the rest, beginning as recent as the early 90's. Each act differs in victimization/consequence, yes, but when put into PERSPECTIVE, which in the end is what MATTERS, they are ALL, including and especially homosexuality, sickening. And if you're going to try to cloak it under the excuse of "having been born that way", then the same could be said for all of those acts, and today's society would then have quite a mess on it's hands, to say the least.

 

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

That's the universal excuse IMO. Gay? Born that way. Womanizer? Born that way. Murderer? Born that way.

You would literally have to accept that for everything.

 

[the cac mamba]

Why is the pedophile called "sick" but the homosexual isn't? without any action taking place.

because homosexuality is two consenting adults, which isnt the case with pedophilia

let me ask you something: who the fukk would choose to be gay?

 

[Blackking]

because homosexuality is two consenting adults, which isnt the case with pedophilia

let me ask you something: who the fukk would choose to be gay?

I know where I live.... being gay isn't an issue.

However, consent is irrelevant when speaking of desires..... like women who have rape fantasies, people who like animal p*ssy, etc..... The OP was talking about the mentality without action.

and i have kids, so I'm condoning ANY of this shyt...... but I think the point of the thread is that if a sexual disorder is a disorder then they all should be considered that.