Can Islam Solve All of Africas Issues?

[GetInTheTruck]

Where you from breh?

I'm Indian but from the US.

 

[mbewane]

I'm Indian but from the US.

So where you get your knowledge on Africa from, you lived there?

 

[GetInTheTruck]

So where you get your knowledge on Africa from, you lived there?

I don't have a deep knowledge of Africa, that's just how I see it based on history and how Islam spread in other places. If you think I'm way off base then I have no problem hearing you out as to why.

 

[mbewane]

I don't have a deep knowledge of Africa, that's just how I see it based on history and how Islam spread in other places. If you think I'm way off base then I have no problem hearing you out as to why.

Islam is the only religion that I can see the continent uniting under if it were ever to happen.

Other religions are too alien/foreign to be taken seriously by most Africans and Christianity is problematic with it's Eurocentric imagery that has come to pretty much define the religion. Arabs can't have anything to do with it though, it has to be a 100% African effort.

The West would never let it happen though, lots of blood will be shed and the blame will be saddled on Islam, as always, and by design.

and before the athiest brigade comes through, I see Africans as a naturally spiritual people....not going to happen.

How can you say this without having, as you say yourself, a deep knowledge of Africa? Based on what?

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

Islam helped to destroy and divide Africa.

Nope. But if they stopped being pagans then I think it would go somewhat better for them.

What difference does it make?

 

[GetInTheTruck]

How can you say this without having, as you say yourself, a deep knowledge of Africa? Based on what?

Religions from the far east are too foreign in character to take a serious hold in Africa, so that only leaves Christianity and Islam. Christianity is some European concoction, Islam is an Arab concoction, true, but it bans tribalism and has more of a uniting nature than any other religion on the planet, plsu Islam has a history of taking hold in places outside of its birthplace without changing the character and culture of the population. IF Africans were to unite under a religion, I see Islam as the one.

 

[mbewane]

Religions from the far east are too foreign in character to take a serious hold in Africa, so that only leaves Christianity and Islam. Christianity is some European concoction, Islam is an Arab concoction, true, but it bans tribalism and has more of a uniting nature than any other religion on the planet, plsu Islam has a history of taking hold in places outside of its birthplace without changing the character and culture of the population. IF Africans were to unite under a religion, I see Islam as the one.

You haven't answered on what you base your assessment/generalization of " Africans as a naturally spiritual people".

Islam doesn't ban tribalism, just have a look at the Middle-East and, oh, African countries where Islam is the main religion. Tell me more how united Sunnis and Chias are, or how mostly muslim countries don't fight each other. Without changing the character and culture of the population? Really? Do you know of teh indigenous cultures in Northern Africa who are still fighting TODAY to be recognized?

 

[Jack]

 

[GetInTheTruck]

You haven't answered on what you base your assessment/generalization of " Africans as a naturally spiritual people".

Islam doesn't ban tribalism, just have a look at the Middle-East and, oh, African countries where Islam is the main religion. Tell me more how united Sunnis and Chias are, or how mostly muslim countries don't fight each other. Without changing the character and culture of the population? Really? Do you know of teh indigenous cultures in Northern Africa who are still fighting TODAY to be recognized?

Iranians are muslim - their culture is Persian, Indonesian muslims culture is Indonesian, Indian muslims culture is Indian, Pakistani muslims don't practice Arab culture either, etc.

Before Islam Arabs were a backwards people that didn't know their left foot from their right. The Turks were nobodies before Islam and then they flourished and actually held the reigns of the religion for a grip....these are all facts.

And those indigenous cultures just aren't up to snuff when compared to Islam, so they will naturally be engulfed by the ideological free market. That's just the way it is. It happens everywhere.

and in regards to Africans being a spiritual people, that's just how I see it. Does that offend you? If so, it's probably because you're an atheist.

 

[mbewane]

Iranians are muslim - their culture is Persian, Indonesian muslims culture is Indonesian, Indian muslims culture is Indian, Pakistani muslims don't practice Arab culture either, etc.

Before Islam Arabs were a backwards people that didn't know their left foot from their right. The Turks were nobodies before Islam and then they flourished and actually held the reigns of the religion for a grip....these are all facts.

And those indigenous cultures just aren't up to snuff when compared to Islam, so they will naturally be engulfed by the ideological free market. That's just the way it is. It happens everywhere.

and in regards to Africans being a spiritual people, that's just how I see it. Does that offend you? If so, it's probably because you're an atheist.

OK, I get it. Carry on spreading the good word breh.

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

Honestly I feel the same way Fela Kuti did, organized religion fukked Africa up more than it helped and it wiped out a lot of old African customs.

 

[mcdivit85]

Africa doesn't need religion. Africa needs a united economic and political agenda to solve its issues. Outside religion has always been used as a tool of conquest and enslavement throughout Africa for many centuries. Islam was spread throughout Africa to the detriment of many Africans who became enslaved by the very people brought the religion. Remember, Arabs were the first enslavers of Africans WAY BEFORE any Europeans even dared to cross the sea, and they came on the back of Islam.

Black people need to stop thinking in terms of some spiritual solution saving them from their woes. We need to get down to nuts and bolts of nationhood. Nations are built by people who have a strong understanding of structure, law, custom and most importantly, an overall vision for its people. We also must get an understanding of politics because historically we have been inept at using politics as a tool.

Also, if we're on the topic of Africa getting itself together, then Africans must find a way to put aside tribalism and seek the greater good of all its people. Tribalism has been the detriment of Africa for so long that its laughable how Africans have not learned how others have and still use it against them. Yes, I understand tribes take their culture and practices very seriously. But Africa hasn't been the whipping boy of Western civilization because people are looking to disenfranchise their tribes...they're looking to disenfranchise African people in general for the use of the natural resources that are literally under their feet.

Quite honestly, I think using Islam as the "savior" of Africa would be laughable, disingenuous and damn near detrimental considering the historical context of the religion within the continent.

Peace

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

This the only religion Africa need at this point....

 

[Blackking]

I thought only teenagers who are just recently learning about religion and history were the only ones that blamed problems on religion.

I remember as a kid I thought all problems were because of Christianity... then I was thinking Islam.. especially for Africa.

But then I stopped being ignorant and realized what really happened... and happens. .

 

[Mr. Somebody]

Religion is often conduit for imperialism. Before religion, people just invaded lands they wanted. Religion can take some of the work out of war by creating sympathizers, traitors and moles.