Cam’ron sounds off on Jim Jones on “It Is What It Is”

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:mjlol:YALL nikkaS AND THESE
FICTIONAL TIMELINES

BALLIN CAME OUT
IN OCTOBER OF 2006...
JIMMY WAS ON STAGE WITH 50
IN JUNE OR JULY OF 2007
AND DIPSET WAS OVER.

IT HAPPENED THAT FAST.
JIMMY GOT A LIL HOT
AND ENDED THE GROUP
WITHIN 8-9 MONTHS
:devil:
:evil:


Stop :childplease: and before I go forward I was the biggest Camron stan in those days, wearing pink polos and all that.

Jim wasn't just hot off Ballin. That was just his peak, his biggest and best record. But he started bubbling in 04, 05 with Certified Gangsters, Baby Girl, Summer in Miami. All them shyts were consistently played on BET and MTV Jams. Cam came off as jealous to me that his flunky was getting popular. That's MY opinion. Because at the same time as when Jim really blew with Ballin, Camron's career was stalling. Killa Season was weak and I take no joy in saying that. Also as I said before, Cam disappeared on them. I don't recall him being in that many videos or on Jimmy's or Juelz's albums (again in that 05-08 time period). He was in one or two but it wasn't like it was before.
 
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Stop :childplease: and before I go forward I was the biggest Camron stan in those days, wearing pink polos and all that.

Jim wasn't just hot off Ballin. That was just his peak, his biggest and best record. But he started bubbling in 04, 05 with Certified Gangsters, Baby Girl, Summer in Miami. All them shyts were consistently played on BET and MTV Jams. Cam came off as jealous to me that his flunky was getting popular. That's MY opinion. Because at the same time as when Jim really blew with Ballin, Camron's career was stalling. Killa Season was weak and I take no joy in saying that. Also as I said before, Cam disappeared on them. I don't recall him being in that many videos or on Jimmy's or Juelz's albums (again in that 05-08 time period). He was in one or two but it wasn't like it was before.

NONE OF THOSE SONGS
WERE AS BIG AS TOUCH IT OR NOT.

JIMMY LITERALLY ONLY CHARTED
2 TIMES IN HIS LIFE.
BALLIN AND POP CHAMPAGNE
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Stop :childplease: and before I go forward I was the biggest Camron stan in those days, wearing pink polos and all that.

Jim wasn't just hot off Ballin. That was just his peak, his biggest and best record. But he started bubbling in 04, 05 with Certified Gangsters, Baby Girl, Summer in Miami. All them shyts were consistently played on BET and MTV Jams. Cam came off as jealous to me that his flunky was getting popular. That's MY opinion. Because at the same time as when Jim really blew with Ballin, Camron's career was stalling. Killa Season was weak and I take no joy in saying that. Also as I said before, Cam disappeared on them. I don't recall him being in that many videos or on Jimmy's or Juelz's albums (again in that 05-08 time period). He was in one or two but it wasn't like it was before.
those songs were hot in the streets i guess (NOT babygirl....lol) but ballin was his first HIT, and that isn't very arguable. 50 literally told you the play from his own words
 

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Cam kan feel anyways he wants and address it how he wants

But this is a bad look for they movement


Where were you nikkas to stop Game moving so goofy his whole career?

Blood don't listen 2 his own kin and been disrespectful 2 his own fam members , and homeys from the neighborhood

at the end u kan only do so much x speak on so much , let blood do him and map out his own downfall

( and to be fair the 1's who stuck around the longest , the same 1s who let him feel that position of power , nekoz they aint want there own position jeopordized )

as time as gone on he has matured , but there is certain things u juss kant baaak and he still ahs his moments he just kant get out his OWN way

says alot when u aint had yo pops around a good portion of your life and u think u the MAN of the House ,, and know how 2 run a ship ,

my own position was never defined by chuck , i always been in the game and around so aint shxt movin or stoppin who i Am or what i have 2 say ,
 

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NONE OF THOSE SONGS
WERE AS BIG AS TOUCH IT OR NOT.

JIMMY LITERALLY ONLY CHARTED
2 TIMES IN HIS LIFE.
BALLIN AND POP CHAMPAGNE
:devil:
:evil:

Baby Girl was as big in the streets as Touch It Or Not, but that's because that's how a lot of people got put onto Max B.


Around the time Cam got shot and disappeared, Juelz was at his absolute peak (and that situation can be discussed at another time), but Jim was making moves. It was hard to take Jim seriously because everyone thought he was a hype man/weed carrier, but when Byrd Gang picked up steam, there was a time where Jim, to his credit, was right in that he was keeping the name out there when Cam was off doing whatever.

For all the time Cam spent on the sidelines, he was building up crazy anticipation for whatever he was gonna do and he fukked up at every turn except for the fact that he was doing live streams early (him and Budden). It felt like Cam kept tryna find a Jim Jones replacement and it never stuck.
 

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Baby Girl was as big in the streets as Touch It Or Not, but that's because that's how a lot of people got put onto Max B.


Around the time Cam got shot and disappeared, Juelz was at his absolute peak (and that situation can be discussed at another time), but Jim was making moves. It was hard to take Jim seriously because everyone thought he was a hype man/weed carrier, but when Byrd Gang picked up steam, there was a time where Jim, to his credit, was right in that he was keeping the name out there when Cam was off doing whatever.

For all the time Cam spent on the sidelines, he was building up crazy anticipation for whatever he was gonna do and he fukked up at every turn except for the fact that he was doing live streams early (him and Budden). It felt like Cam kept tryna find a Jim Jones replacement and it never stuck.

YOU MEAN HE WAS
TRYING TO FIND A JUELZ REPLACEMENT

:devil:
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Cam kan feel anyways he wants and address it how he wants

But this is a bad look for they movement
They can put a nice happy face on whatever they're doing. Dipset only really lives through Juelz's brother's streetball teams. Ain't no movement. The closest we came to thinking things were kinda headed in the right direction was when Dipset reunited and they were supposedly in the studio with Dr. Dre and had a new deal and threw out a tape just to get people amped again, and even then, it never felt authentic. Everything they've done independent of what Jim is doing feels like a cash grab. I know Juelz' brother and Ja and all them. Ja hits a couple of threes at Dyckman and then it's "7th, Lenox and what about the east side." That's about as far as the movement goes now.
 

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YOU MEAN HE WAS
TRYING TO FIND A JUELZ REPLACEMENT

:devil:
:evil:

Yes and no.

Yeah he was hoping Vado and Penz would pop off as rappers the way Juelz did, but he was looking for a running mate the way Jim used to run with Cam. Even at that point, even though Freekey Zekey is Cam's blood family, he was running with Byrd Gang too. Cam was legit out here by himself for a minute. Everyone was split into three camps: a) running with Jim b) cut off from everyone and had to link up-- which was basically JR Writer, Hell Rell and 40 Cal or c) deep in addiction which was just Juelz even though he was still cool with Jim. The last time I seen Cam with any of them without the goal of making money was to show love to one of their friends who started a end of the summer HS streetball tournament at Battlegrounds.
 

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Did I miss this or was it cut out...Jim goes to jump DAME DASH



Internet culture got y'all heads messed up. Anything that's not full blown crash out is seen as "kid gloves" now. Making up scenarios of what COULD be said and being disappointment that the reality doesn't live up to your imagination. I bet Jim didn't didn't watch this feeling relived at how light Cam went on him (pause).

lmao i told u Cam held back them punches @REdefinition :mjlol:
 
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