Cade Cunningham is and will remain better than Jalen Green

[who_better_than_me]

Cade post all star numbers have lead to Pistons wins. Houston has lost 4 straight despite Greens tear. Kinda Like I always thought. Green is another Lavine/Beal. Instant bucket getter but doesn’t elevate their team to wins. Cade and Guffey are that point forward like Luka or Harden. Much larger impact

they both have 3 win since mid March. Try again. Detroit win a coupe of games recently in the last week or two without Cade really playing

You compare us dumping Blake after two years to harden?

that’s the only really so call star y’all really had in the decadeothee than that whoever Reggie Jackson?


We had Harden throughout his prime and then traded him when his body started to wear down

 

[who_better_than_me]

8 nikkas scored 50 in March

Anybody can catch fire one night. Green Mamba been consistently on fire for a minute now. His TS is damn near 60 since February. That’s considered elite scoring

 

[WMG the 2nd]

they both have 3 win since mid March. Try again. Detroit win a coupe of games recently in the last week or two without Cade really playing


that’s the only really so call star y’all really had in the decadeothee than that whoever Reggie Jackson?


We had Harden throughout his prime and then traded him when his body started to wear down

And y’all didn’t win shyt
Aint won shyt since Hakeem. Who plays nothing like harden or Jalen

Jalen can be a winner but who trusts the rockets to build a title winner when they prioritize KPJ Schroeder and Wood in their lockerroom and are paying wall 40 million to do nothing

 

[who_better_than_me]

And y’all didn’t win shyt
Aint won shyt since Hakeem. Who plays nothing like harden or Jalen

Jalen can be a winner but who trusts the rockets to build a title winner when they prioritize KPJ Schroeder and Wood in their lockerroom and are paying wall 40 million to do nothing

Because they’ve built contenders recently. And they know how to build a competitive team. Houston only has 1 losing season in 15 and that was last season. When was the last time Detroit built a contending team? You should have more doubt about your team building around Cade. Since the 2010 the only team with a worst record than Detroit is Sacramento.

we have more young players with upside. And all ur vets with big contract expire off at the same time. And we have the most FRP’s in the next 5 years outside of OKC. And we’re probably going to accumulate more next season when we move Wood and Gordon.




you’re clowning KPJ but he has more upside and shown more in the court than anybody on your squad outside of Cade. And I don’t even consider KPJ a core foundational piece for Houston.

 

[eastside313]

That don’t mean shyt in this league nomore. Everybody getting triple doubles. You need a bucket in this league and an elite one at that

Lucky for us Cade can score at all levels. From the 3 and the midrange and the low post and off the dribble. And everybody is not a triple double threat every night.

 

[Bledswole]

If basketball was just about scoring it’s still close
Cade still a better basketball player overall but Green been on fire. Imagine if they didn’t have those vets wasting time over there the entire season

If Green could really do what he wanted like Cade man he’d had averaged at least 20 a night this season

 

[Bledswole]

People keep talkin about greens scoring ability like Cade don’t have wild scoring ability also.

both of them will be a threat to drop 30 on any given night. They both Will be avg 25-30 ppg in their prime

Cade ain’t got it like Jalen tho

 

[WMG the 2nd]

If Green could really do what he wanted like Cade man he’d had averaged at least 20 a night this season

I agree a solid 20-3-3. Cade and him have similar scoring output since all star break but Cade does everything else better is what we keep reiterating. Cade has won games off scoring and defense. In Toronto he ended the game with a block.

against Jalen and the rockets this year he drew a game sealing charge in Jalen and blocked his last shot as well. It’s different. It’s not just scoring and even if we went by scoring it’s not a huge difference between the two.

Green is going to be a lights out scorer but anybody not seeing cades scoring ability being on par is being obtuse. Kid been scoring 30 plus with no free throws and when his jumper isn’t falling sometimes while also giving you 7 plus assists and 7 plus rebounds with steals and blocks. Both studs tho

 

[#1 pick]

Nah it’s corny to go all in for a nigguh then turn on him as soon as he left especially if he ain’t leave disrespectfully.


At the end of the day you’re a basketball fan, first.

And watch how you speak about Scherzer, he brought a WS to DC. When he goes into the HOF, it ain’t going be as a Tigers players

Houston fans are not like other fans. Living here shows me that.

 

[who_better_than_me]

I agree a solid 20-3-3. Cade and him have similar scoring output since all star break but Cade does everything else better is what we keep reiterating. Cade has won games off scoring and defense. In Toronto he ended the game with a block.

against Jalen and the rockets this year he drew a game sealing charge in Jalen and blocked his last shot as well. It’s different. It’s not just scoring and even if we went by scoring it’s not a huge difference between the two.

Green is going to be a lights out scorer but anybody not seeing cades scoring ability being on par is being obtuse. Kid been scoring 30 plus with no free throws and when his jumper isn’t falling sometimes while also giving you 7 plus assists and 7 plus rebounds with steals and blocks. Both studs tho

Green is rated in the highest percentile for isolation defender for all rookies. He’s a better perimeter defender than Cade

 

[who_better_than_me]

Lucky for us Cade can score at all levels. From the 3 and the midrange and the low post and off the dribble. And everybody is not a triple double threat every night.

Green is also a three level scorer and more efficient

 

[who_better_than_me]

Houston fans are not like other fans. Living here shows me that.

I think that’s fans in general. From what I seen(apparently not on here). , lion fans were generally happy and supportive if Stafford. They all said he was a good qb, just stuck on a terrible franchise and stormy office.


Same with harden, dude gave his all and maxed out in Houston. I wouldn’t want to waste time/prime playing with John wall either.

 

[WMG the 2nd]

I agree a solid 20-3-3. Cade and him have similar scoring output since all star break but Cade does everything else better is what we keep reiterating. Cade has won games off scoring and defense. In Toronto he ended the game with a block. Green is going to be a lights out scorer but anybody not seeing cades scoring ability being on par is being obtuse. Kid been scoring 30 plus with no free throws and when his jumper isn’t falling sometimes while also giving you 7 plus assists and 7 plus rebounds with steals and blocks. Both studs tho

Green is rated in the highest percentile for isolation defender for all rookies. He’s a better perimeter defender than Cade

Jalen Green defensive rating this year is 119. He’s does not consistently guard the best lead guards on the opposite side. His opponents score more on him than any other rookie in this entire class.

jalen Green Vs other rookies tells the tale. Jalen isn’t top 50 in steal percentage, or block percentage, he gives up 13.9 points off turnovers which is the most out of every rookie in the entire class, opponents score more in the paint with him guarding them than any other rookie in the class, he’s not too 50 in defensive win shares, and isn’t too 100 in terms of defensive rebounding. He’s won 12 games out of the 63 he’s played and several players have had season highs with him guarding them.

Devin Booker averages 28 against green. Murray averaged 25. Russ averaged 25 against ya boy. Bojdan, Desmond Bane, and various others averaged way more than they normally score against green.

jalen has potential to be a good defender but based off eye test and his actual stats he isn’t in the same realm as Cade.
Players Defense

opponents guarded by Jalen Green have averaged 67 percent against him the entire year. 14-21 against him the entire year when guarded by him.
Players Opponent Shooting

Jalen is not a better defender than Cade by any measurement

 

[WMG the 2nd]

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Based on DARKO he’s slightly better than Trae Toung but still bottom five in the league as a defender if we only talking players that have played 950 minutes this year.

 

[who_better_than_me]

Jalen Green defensive rating this year is 119. He’s does not consistently guard the best lead guards on the opposite side. His opponents score more on him than any other rookie in this entire class.

jalen Green Vs other rookies tells the tale. Jalen isn’t top 50 in steal percentage, or block percentage, he gives up 13.9 points off turnovers which is the most out of every rookie in the entire class, opponents score more in the paint with him guarding them than any other rookie in the class, he’s not too 50 in defensive win shares, and isn’t too 100 in terms of defensive rebounding. He’s won 12 games out of the 63 he’s played and several players have had season highs with him guarding them.

Devin Booker averages 28 against green. Murray averaged 25. Russ averaged 25 against ya boy. Bojdan, Desmond Bane, and various others averaged way more than they normally score against green.

jalen has potential to be a good defender but based off eye test and his actual stats he isn’t in the same realm as Cade.
Players Defense

opponents guarded by Jalen Green have averaged 67 percent against him the entire year. 14-21 against him the entire year when guarded by him.
Players Opponent Shooting

Jalen is not a better defender than Cade by any measurement

Defensive rating is a floor stat, not individual. To use that to gauge one player is stupid. You don’t use the stats in front of you without any context. Talking about eye test.? You do know that Green doesn’t guard Booker right? I saw the game when Booker went off and Green never really primarrily guarded him. It was usually Tate or KPJ. Here you go


Going off how you use stats would kill you ownr argument for Cade being a better offensive player than Green because Cade offensive rating is 96. The lowest of top 10 lottery picks. Outside of Primo and Suggs. Do that mean Cade is a terrible offensive player? Because that’s way below league average

I can throw random stats out there too without context. Remember when y’all said Cade has more impact on winning. So why is the only first round rookie(alone with Suggs and Keon Johnson)with a negative win share? That’s 3 out of of 30. That said his impact on win is more negative than positive?


Your really trying to gauge Green as a 19 year old. That’s the difference between our argument. I don’t really say anything definitive about Cade becaue he’s rookie. It’s about linear progress at this point. You issued a video from preseason to try to dismiss Greens defense and you’re surprised a 19 year old rookie was struggling to understand the defensive concept back then