who_better_than_me
Time to go!!
I agree. Chicago been the most disappointing team this season. Based one expectation experience and talent level. Were not surprised Detroit would be in the lottery
Cade Cunningham Calls Pistons 'Bad', Says Competitive Level Is 'Unacceptable'
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Cade doesn’t project to be a cornerstone, top 10-15 guy in the NBA, so building around him is sort of a fool’s errand. The rest of their guys can’t shoot. Not a recipe to win in the current NBA. When Isiah Stewart is your best three point shooter, you’ve got a huge problem on your hands.
The D-List Vet
Being in a recommendation system.
And this is a weak draft pistons are going to be trash for another year.
Renegade47
Superstar
monty is a dumbass
Cade had to have had like 10 turnovers in that Knicks game tonight
it might be time to pivot and start building around Jaden Ivey …Cade’s inefficiency has been killing them …don’t understand why Ivey is only getting like 8 shots a game
do the 5 games before that
NormanConnors
Detroit/MSU Spartan Life
Lost the game down the stretch when they went back to playing Cade ball, not sure if it was Monty or Cade's idea, but breh was forcing some of his shots imo. Ivey was in down the stretch too, Cade wasn't giving up the rock for good stretches
. Cade should have stayed off ball the entire game. Him starting off with the rock and ending with Stew taking an abysmal corner 3 doesn’t make sense compared to Cade playing off ball and being the recipient of the rock after some glorious movement.And somehow cats are still trying to blame this loss on Killian Hayes
.Even with all that the Pistons win if Brunson cooled off even a little bit.
IIVI
Superstar
At 20 Luka was pushing a tail end prime Kawhi, PG13 and Clippers team in the playoffs with 40 point games on 60% shooting, 13 assist nights with role players.
At 21 dude did the same (Jalen Brunson wasn't Jalen Brunson yet).
At 22 dude had that deep play-off run and a phenomenal series against the 1st seed Suns.
At 22 Cade just ain't the same killer Luka was. The shooting, handle, BBIQ and court vision are nowhere close.
Can you see a 22 year old Luka having an 0-15 stretch? Nah.
Luka is a natural jumbo point guard from the jump (as a kid). Dude's favorite players were Ricky Rubio and LeBron James.
Cade is a natural forward who worked on his passing skills in high school. That's a big difference. Remember, it's the NBA. Point guards have been playing point guard their whole life. The real problem is Cade is an undersized forward. Doesn't have the stellar BBIQ, handle, creativity and quickness to be your main point guard, doesn't have the shooting ability to be your main goto shooting guard and doesn't have the size and elite athleticism to be your main forward. People are expecting a LeBron/Luka but dude ain't that kind of match-up problem.
When you get real about it you can get a clearer picture about where you need to go as a team. What you need is dude to be the secondary ballhandler/playmaker and build a motion offense. Like a Ginobli role to Tony Parker. However, that also requires dude to become a much better shooter than he currently is and you need to find your true #1 goto like they had with Tim Duncan. Cade said that he studied Khris Middleton which is great as he fit that Ginobli role next to Jrue and Giannis, but Khris Middleton was a 40%+ 3P shooter.
That's the thing as well: what team would build their franchise around Khris Middleton? That's the issue here. "Can we find some shooters around Cade?" isn't the right question to ask as a franchise. Ivey used to run a complex offense in college and may need more time as the lead guard. Cade should play off-ball. Now, can you find your Tim Duncan, Giannis, Embiid or Jokic? That's the right question to ask and would puts fans from that city right into seats.
At 21 dude did the same (Jalen Brunson wasn't Jalen Brunson yet).
At 22 dude had that deep play-off run and a phenomenal series against the 1st seed Suns.
At 22 Cade just ain't the same killer Luka was. The shooting, handle, BBIQ and court vision are nowhere close.
Can you see a 22 year old Luka having an 0-15 stretch? Nah.
Luka is a natural jumbo point guard from the jump (as a kid). Dude's favorite players were Ricky Rubio and LeBron James.
Cade is a natural forward who worked on his passing skills in high school. That's a big difference. Remember, it's the NBA. Point guards have been playing point guard their whole life. The real problem is Cade is an undersized forward. Doesn't have the stellar BBIQ, handle, creativity and quickness to be your main point guard, doesn't have the shooting ability to be your main goto shooting guard and doesn't have the size and elite athleticism to be your main forward. People are expecting a LeBron/Luka but dude ain't that kind of match-up problem.
When you get real about it you can get a clearer picture about where you need to go as a team. What you need is dude to be the secondary ballhandler/playmaker and build a motion offense. Like a Ginobli role to Tony Parker. However, that also requires dude to become a much better shooter than he currently is and you need to find your true #1 goto like they had with Tim Duncan. Cade said that he studied Khris Middleton which is great as he fit that Ginobli role next to Jrue and Giannis, but Khris Middleton was a 40%+ 3P shooter.
That's the thing as well: what team would build their franchise around Khris Middleton? That's the issue here. "Can we find some shooters around Cade?" isn't the right question to ask as a franchise. Ivey used to run a complex offense in college and may need more time as the lead guard. Cade should play off-ball. Now, can you find your Tim Duncan, Giannis, Embiid or Jokic? That's the right question to ask and would puts fans from that city right into seats.
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ReturnOfJudah
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nikkas bout to be the Ft Wayne Pistons if they keep this up