Cacs eagerly buy into the "happy slave" narrative

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These gawd dam Devils they will never learn until the shoe is on the other foot. Let's enslave these white b*stards and rape their women and kill their men whenever we like and let them claim to be happy. I fukking hate Cacs they are all the same fukk these pink pigged fukkers to hell.
 

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In November 2009, Mary V. Thompson, research specialist at Mount Vernon, discovered that. The president celebrated the day in Philadelphia, but it was also a holiday on the plantation. An entry in that week's Mount Vernon farm report noted that Hercules "absconded 4 [days ago]".[14]
The general's cook ran away, being now in Philadelphia, and left a little daughter of six at Mount Vernon. Beaudoin ventured that the little girl must be deeply upset that she would never see her father again; she answered, "Oh! Sir, I am very glad, because he is free now."[1]
"Since your departure I have been making distant enquiries about Herculas but did not till about four weeks ago hear anything of him and that was only that [he] was in town neither do I yet know where he is, and that it will be very difficult to find out in the secret manner necessary to be observed on the occasion."[15]
 

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The whole "slavery existed for thousands of years" argument is so stupid.

Nothing, and I repeat NOTHING, no form of slavery ever, was as bad in human cost and rife with atrocity than capitalistic, white-perpetrated chattel slavery in the Americas and the Caribbean.
 

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:what: Nearly every damn country in South America. You have no idea the amount of hatred I have for for South Americans. If you think that American slavery was bad, than prepare for absolute carnage from the poor slaves who had the misfortune of going to the other America. Only like 5% of all Africans were brought to the United States and the rest were sent to South America. The death rate in the U.S was very low for slaves but in Brazil and other nearby nations in was damn near 50%. Primary crop for the U.S was pretty much cotton while in Latin America it was Sugar canes and from what I've read it was hell to work in the fields due to carrying the massive weight of the sugar canes and what the stalk did to your feet which would basically cut your feet raw and you would bleed. Slaves were banned in the U.S from being brought over post 1820s but in Latin America this never happened so the slave owners thought "fukk it if they die then we can just bring more". So no its not unprecedented its just that the U.S we have some clout and brought the issue forward while in Brazil they couldn't give a fukk.

The death rate in sugar-extractive economies (especially the Caribbean) was absolutely horrific due to the ready availability of more imported slaves and a complete disregard for human life combined with the nature of labor that sugar entailed. Overseers would regularly drive slaves to death by exhaustion and suicide.

Also, because for the most part Africans outnumbered whites by enormous majorities, more atrocious and cruel instances of torture, murder, and rape were practiced on a daily basis to keep the keep the slave population "in check". Check out Vincent Brown's "The Reaper's Garden" for more about this in the Caribbean. It's an excellent book, and he teaches at Harvard.

Vincent Brown
 

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Not trying to flame race wars here but ...

"The Honorable Elijah Muhammad says, American propaganda is designed to make us think that no matter how much hell we catch here, we're still better off in America than we'd be anywhere else. They want us to think we have no place else to go. And many of our so-called intellectuals who pose as our leaders and spokesmen actually believe that we have no place else to go. So their solution to our problem is that we stay here and continue to catch hell from the American white man."
"But the only permanent solution is complete separation or some land of our own in a country of our own. All other courses will lead to violence and bloodshed. It will lead to the destruction of America, and it will also lead to the destruction of our people who fall for it. So his message is flee for your lives and save yourselves. And I thank you." -Malcolm X
(speech at the University of California, Berkeley, October 11, 1963)

EM and MX both agreed that America wasn't good for blacks people. Yet both of them were born, raised, and lived their whole lives IN America. America wasn't for them but apparently Neither was Africa or anywhere else.


Ayone else se ethe hypcocrisy there? or can someone just straighten it out for me. (Not a big follower of either of them or the NOI at all)

Stop trying to spread deception. The honorable Elijah Muhammad and the NOI demanded land for black people in America because black people built America. He wasn't being hypocritical he was asking for compensatory justice for the atrocities that were committed against Africans in the US.

Besides the government actively sabotage any relationship between blacks in the US and in Africa. That's been a documented fear since at least the 1920s
 

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slavery was an awful point in humanity but its so hard for us to perceive it through the lens of history because its such a foreign concept to us...but from the beginning of human society becoming organized slavery was an institutional norm for around ten thousand years in every region of the world...it's mind boggling that its only been a few hundred years that slavery has been abolished

and a lot of times its human nature to make the best of your situation if you grew up and this was considered life you coped and focused on things that made you happy if not you lose your will to live that's all I was saying is that on the outside slave owners may have thought their slaves were happy and slaves themselves without knowing any better may have felt the same way

I am in no way condoning slavery or excusing it I don't understand the need to berate and disrespect me i'm just trying to rationalize how people may have felt and how they may have justified what they did


Negged. Why is this clown still in the green with his posts in this thread????
 

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The whole "slavery existed for thousands of years" argument is so stupid.

Nothing, and I repeat NOTHING, no form of slavery ever, was as bad in human cost and rife with atrocity than capitalistic, white-perpetrated chattel slavery in the Americas and the Caribbean.

Okay and? If you want to talk about Carribean slavery, then talk about it. But this thread was about American slavery. If you want to talk about it, make a thread.
 

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I'm just saying the world doesn't Always work in black and white...most of us are forced to be at some career job for 40-60 hrs a week and if it wasn't for bills kids food most would prefer to stay at home relaxing or putting efforts into things they are passionate about but we make the most out our jobs pretend to enjoy getting up early to some cubicle for most of the day and keep a positive attitude all I'm saying is that it's possible for those who did not know what freedom was and were born into slavery to use the same coping mechanisms ...this militant your opinion is offensive bullshyt cuz it has to be a black and white paradigm with no in between...is stupid...the is always a range of complicated things going on when it comes to psychology and emotion

Get off your high horse and just agree to disagree without having a titty attack


You just can't fukking help yourself can you????

Now you're comparing working 40 hours a week to being ripped apart from your family and everything that you know and living constantly under the fear of harm or death?

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Negtrain? Slavery was just a minor inconvenience to this guy.
 

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not that it was ever a good thing but I can't imagine every household was mean to slaves...say for instance a single home small family that had one slave cook and do housework like jeffry they probably treated that slave like a member of the family had them eat dinner with them and maybe even went to social functions with the family

it's hard to imagine though how you grew up and it was a normal part of life to own another human being its surreal but no matter how well a slave may have been treated in some families they still viewed them as less than them and probably similar to how someone viewed a pet


:what: why is this devil in the green?
 
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