c00ns getting Dr. Umar stripped of his psychology credentials...

[number21]

We're so lost.

 

[Isaiah Bradley]

You gone have to explain better than this.


When said person runs their platform on criticizing other people's life choices, then they should expect their own to be scrutinized.

He can have as much extramarital sex and as many unmarried ass children as he wants, yet he can run around the internet telling other black folks their family values are fukked.


Again.
fukk is wrong with y'all?

what is there to explain. Humans are flawed animals, that are
emotionally driven,
susceptible to manipulation,
desires social stability and
is easy to condition by repetition

So since your kind don't like Umar, your emotions have now justified your repetitive and misleading use of facts regarding Umar's failed relationship, struggles to raise money, and sex life, to manipulate others, who may not be comfortable with holding unpopular opinions for fear of social and economical ostracization

Example, the notion of experiencing a failed relationship is such a common occurrence that the accepted human response is to "learn from it and move on." But with Umar, you're using his failed relationship and experience against him because you don't like him.

Not because what he saying is wrong.

He sharing with Black folks, what his scholarship and experience has bestowed to him. You are undermining his relationship advice for personal and emotional reasons, not because you care about Black folks and have alternate relationship advise

The notion of "learning from my mistake" is not applied to Umar for deceitful and spiteful reasons

Charlottesville, VA

Keep thinking you will you get anywhere with your bigotry you will get far

I'm just following the blue print that's clearly working for others

 

[Gains]

It's a sad day when you jump into a thread and napolean is the voice of reason

 

[Scott Larock]

Conservative groups that are "pro family" and don't like the gay are able to start private schools all the time. The reason for this is that they behave in a professional, adult manner. They're not on social media asking "haters" to "run the fade." They're not faking phone calls with "goons." They're not on talk shows calling people "c00ns." They're not "barking" on their critics at Q and A sessions. And when they try to run scams and misuse donations, they face legal repercussions. Yes, even white people.

Jermaine's problem is that he behaves like an overgrown 13 year old boy. If you still support him at this point, you're just stupid.

Don't compare whites to blacks, whites come together based off hate, nothing more, nothing less. blacks don't hate enough to really come together as a group.

While Umar acted like a child, his mindset was in the right place, he messed up with the school.

Everything you calling Umar, stating immaturity, or lack of accountability can be backed up to the black community and our matriarchy mentality. Grown men acting like boys, pushing their masculinity in the face of anyone opposing it.

Umar should quit, I hope he returns all the money and leves and moves away, he's not gonna last in America with the mentality most blacks have, he tried, he failed and he should move on.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

what is there to explain. Humans are flawed animals, that are
emotionally driven,
susceptible to manipulation,
desires social stability and
is easy to condition by repetition

That's some old vague smart dumb shyt that doesn't even begin to explain what's going on.

Talk like Kyrie Irving brehs

So since your kind don't like Umar,

your emotions have now justified your repetitive and misleading use of facts regarding Umar's failed relationship, struggles to raise money, and sex life, to manipulate others, who may not be comfortable with holding unpopular opinions for fear of social and economical ostracization

I ain't said nothing but facts and have not judged anyone for anything.

It's not me that's emotional here.

Example, the notion of experiencing a failed relationship is such a common occurrence that the accepted human response is to "learn from it and move on." But with Umar, you're using his failed relationship and experience against him because you don't like him.

I didn't use anything "against" him.

I stated the fact that he has unwed children just like the people he criticizes. That's it.

Again you have an emotional response to facts being stated.

Not because what he saying is wrong.

I never passed any judgement on his opinion being wrong or right. I'm not in the business of arguing over other people's opinion.

He sharing with Black folks, what his scholarship and experience has bestowed to him. You are undermining his relationship advice for personal and emotional reasons, not because you care about Black folks and have alternate relationship advise

Again I have not undermined anything. I said when you run your platform on "family values" you should expect your own values to be scrutinized.

That goes for any and everybody.

What I find interesting is that he and I'm sure you will fight to discredit another persons message based on their own life choices, sexual preferences, race, etc.

But when that same thing gets done to Umar you wanna cry foul.

The notion of "learning from my mistake" is not applied to Umar for deceitful and spiteful reasons

Umar doesn't give that chance to anyone he criticizes.

He's not out here saying "this person just made a mistake and can fix it"

He's saying "this person is a c00n". "Single mothers blah blah blah" "gays have mental issues"

Why isn't he teaching such tolerance and empathy if that's what you think he deserves?

 

[Isaiah Bradley]

That's some old vague smart dumb shyt that doesn't even begin to explain what's going on.

Talk like Kyrie Irving brehs



I ain't said nothing but facts and have not judged anyone for anything.

It's not me that's emotional here.


I didn't use anything "against" him.


Again you have an emotional response to facts being stated.


I never passed any judgement on his opinion being wrong or right. I'm not in the business of arguing over other people's opinion.


Again I have not undermined anything. I said when you run your platform on "family values" you should expect your own values to be scrutinized.

That goes for any and everybody.

What I find interesting is that he and I'm sure you will fight to discredit another persons message based on their own life choices, sexual preferences, race, etc.

But when that same thing gets done to Umar you wanna cry foul.


Umar doesn't give that chance to anyone he criticizes.

He's not out here saying "this person just made a mistake and can fix it"

He's saying "this person is a c00n". "Single mothers blah blah blah" "gays have mental issues"

Why isn't he teaching such tolerance and empathy if that's what you think he deserves?

the absurdities...
-to mention someone's failed relationship as a tool to discredit them, but then say you're not undermining him or passing judgement on his opinion
-Use his personal life to fuel your misleading narrative, but then claim I'm being emotional, when I haven't used any personal attacks to defend Umar. Like you're using against Umar
- if you not saying he's right or wrong, then why are you spending so much time trying to undermine and discredit him? at least I defend him because I know his blueprint is 100% correct, not because I don't or may think he's right
-How many videos does Umar have that talks about the pitfalls of relationships and how important Black union is to the Black upliftment,but your response is to talk about his children from a failed relationship but nothing about what he actually has said

Clearly, your agenda is not based in Black folks empowerment, it's based in liberal rhetoric where being a blind SJW is encouraged rather than being an informed active citizen

Umar has said, even though he doesn't embrace the gay lifestyle, there are Black gays that he would still support and help to empower because they are Black.

How about the times Umar has discussed the importance of the community to help raise these kids that are in single parent households and what are the responsibilities of biological fathers vs step fathers to ensure Black kids are properly nurtured, is ignored by your kind because you're pushing liberal rhetoric and not for Black empowerment

 

[Grano-Grano]

At this rate, it appears black people in America deserve to be a permanent underclass and/or go extinct.

Who needs cac supremacy when you have crabs in a barrel?

Black ppl are idiots. I swear

 

[get these nets]

"the building fund. we had a building fund in my church since I was little....ain't purchased a doorknob"

 

[MeachTheMonster]

the absurdities...
-to mention someone's failed relationship as a tool to discredit them, but then say you're not undermining him or passing judgement on his opinion

You brought up his failed relationships not me.

-Use his personal life to fuel your misleading narrative, but then claim I'm being emotional, when I haven't used any personal attacks to defend Umar. Like you're using against Umar

What is my narrative?

- if you not saying he's right or wrong, then why are you spending so much time trying to undermine and discredit him? at least I defend him because I know his blueprint is 100% correct, not because I don't or may think he's right

In what post did I try to undermine anything he has said?

You brought up his failed relationships and said he gets criticized for it. I said that comes with the territory of being a "family values" activist.

-How many videos does Umar have that talks about the pitfalls of relationships and how important Black union is to the Black upliftment,but your response is to talk about his children from a failed relationship but nothing about what he actually has said

Umars rhetoric is purposely aggressive. That's why some people like him, but it's also why some people don't like him

Again it comes with the territory.

If his rhetoric was a bit more inclusive or less abrasive he wouldn't have people coming at him. You sling mud you get mud slung back.

Why you crying about it? I think your kind would call you a snowflake

Clearly, your agenda is not based in Black folks empowerment, it's based in liberal rhetoric where being a blind SJW is encouraged rather than being an informed active citizen

Sound like a cac in the yahoo comments section brehs

Umar has said, even though he doesn't embrace the gay lifestyle, there are Black gays that he would still support and help to empower because they are Black.

He also says they have mental issues.

It's like trump saying "some of the Mexicans are good" after calling them all thieves and rapists.

How about the times Umar has discussed the importance of the community to help raise these kids that are in single parent households and what are the responsibilities of biological fathers vs step fathers to ensure Black kids are properly nurtured, is ignored by your kind because you're pushing liberal rhetoric and not for Black empowerment

That's great and plenty of people have preached this message, and all of them have had their own lives scrutinized.

 

[Wildhundreds]

Umars rhetoric is purposely aggressive. That's why some people like him, but it's also why some people don't like him

Again it comes with the territory.

If his rhetoric was a bit more inclusive or less abrasive he wouldn't have people coming at him. You sling mud you get mud slung back.

This.

For this very reason, some actually hire PR people to help them with presentation.

 

[Flu Game502]

c00ns running amuck in this thread

 

[Booker T Garvey]

This.

For this very reason, some actually hire PR people to help them with presentation.

you go into any impoverished, low income black community in anytown USA

line up Coates, Dyson, Tim Wise, and Umar

everybody knows Umar is going to connect with them the most.

and it's not because he's more "dumbed down" than them, it's because he is OF them. he is FOR them.

his message resonates with 95% of poor and impoverished black people across the country
and truth be told, they don't give a damn about his shortcomings because most of them have them too
in fact, they'll LIKE HIM MORE because of it.

but make no mistake about it, THIS is why he has to go. THIS is why so many suburban college negroes go at him so hard.

he's garnered national attention without funding or aide from anybody.

 

[Isaiah Bradley]

You brought up his failed relationships not me.

What is my narrative?
In what post did I try to undermine anything he has said?
You brought up his failed relationships and said he gets criticized for it. I said that comes with the territory of being a "family values" activist.

I stated the fact that he has unwed children just like the people he criticizes. That's it.

So like I said, you bringing up his failed relationship via his "unwed children" is disgraceful, petty, and desperate
Your narrative is drenched in liberal BS as proven by your selective quotes by Umar to undermine him. Anything that criticizes women, gays, and "tolerance", will keep you up at night

In what post did I try to undermine anything he has said?

don't play yourself. Your presence in this thread has not been to defend but to contribute in undermining Umar. To attempt to justify our back and fourth as some objective exchange between two inform active and concerned citizens, is insulting and laughable

Umars rhetoric is purposely aggressive. That's why some people like him, but it's also why some people don't like him
Again it comes with the territory.

How is a person's rhetoric aggressive? that doesn't make any sense. Such a lazy and generic description doesn't detail anything he stands and further proves that you are not about Black empowerment
This is why your kind doesn't attack his scholarship because you can't. Instead what you've done is balanced your entire argument on hot topics among like minded liberals

If his rhetoric was a bit more inclusive or less abrasive he wouldn't have people coming at him. You sling mud you get mud slung back.

lol. more liberal BS. So once again, the strong alpha-persona Blackman that speaks with passion and bass in his voice is discriminated against for a more gamma-persona Blackman that embraces all people and ideologies, regardless whether those folks and ideologies are empowering

Why you crying about it? I think your kind would call you a snowflake


Sound like a cac in the yahoo comments section brehs

Cac labels? Thecoli.com default argument when you running out of what to say

He also says they have mental issues.

It's like trump saying "some of the Mexicans are good" after calling them all thieves and rapists.

That's great and plenty of people have preached this message, and all of them have had their own lives scrutinized.

He also said Black folks are trifling and I'm Black. Do I think I'm trifling? no, are there trifling Black folks, especially in the context he discussed, hell yes
Are there gay folks who are that way due to mother nature, yes but are there gay folks who are that way due to their experiences and mental trauma, hell yes
Are there good Mexicans, yes, are there mexican theieves and rapists, hell yes

When will your kind put on your adult pants and not need ideological qualifiers like ",not all but some," before every thought in order for you to not be offended and proceed to cherry pick the sentences you want to focus on, while completely ignoring the entire point

 

[@OffHalsted]

Still waiting on his supporters to answer how many years people should wait and how much money he should be allowed to collect before he is held accountable.

Is the money unaccounted for?

 

[Scott Larock]

The majority are addicted to information, not addicted to struggle nor can relate to struggle, hence why umar failed. He overjudged blacks, thought we all can relate, we can't.

He said the black concious community is the elitest and the church is the closest thing to the ground and he's right.

Alot of yall just got offended by what he says, no wonder people wanted him to fail.