c00ns getting Dr. Umar stripped of his psychology credentials...

[SupremexKing]

I'm curious as to how this question connects to DeBoer's quote.

answer the question please sir.

 

[SupremexKing]

Based on him sitting up in a hotel room cursing out sa neter pretending like he was receiving phone calls. And based on him collecting donations for years and still no school.

lets talk about how perfect and flawless every move you make in life is

 

[fairfax12]

there will be no one black person who will ever have the capital for any singular black movement.

its 2017 and you nikkas still think that is possible? the richest AAs are entertainers and they will never be allowed to change anything.

the sooner that you accept we as working class people have to change ourselves, is the sooner things will happen.

stop trying to depend on some negro messiah and educate your family.

Social capital is important...which is what Umar has because he obviously is pretty broke financially. I shoulda clarified but I definitely wasn't talking like I expected one single person to write a check to put our issues on the map. But one or several people/groups have to have the social capital to mobilize us as a GROUP. With evidence and data based logic that can be used in a court of law or as fleshed out political agenda. Not Umar telling people gay people are pedophiles and that we should believe him because he's a "Doctor". There are many of those people out there who run Podcasts and YT channels who deserve our attention more than this clown.

Influential people with integrity whose message is based on a communal message of black politics is absolutely a great thing. We share more than we differ from each other. Whether you're from LA or Michigan trans or straight. You're black first and that's a big point we should be focusing on.

 

[Gold]

The number of people on this board that don't know how professions work is embarrassing

 

[AlainLocke]

The number of people on this board that don't know how professions work is embarrassing

What do you think theColi consist of?

You see how empty the Six Certs board is...

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

I think homos are mad cause of his stance

 

[get these nets]

right, because pastors preaching to the other cheek to white daddy and black men calling out white supremacy directly are the same thing.

What I mean is that regardless of the facts or the nature of criticism, that old Black woman will defend her pastor.

People will defend Dr. Johnson, or any person they follow, regardless of what the facts are......in a manner that reminds me of how people defend their pastors.

Objectively speaking, you can see how the "c**ns attacking me" rhetoric is a big smokescreen from Umar, though. He makes public videos of his lectures available online , he does interviews in big media outlets and he always stands by what he says.

Everything is on public record, what could "his own race" be telling on him about to the extent that his license is in jeopardy now?

 

[AlainLocke]

What I mean is that regardless of the facts or the nature of criticism, that old Black woman will defend her pastor.

People will defend Dr. Johnson, or any person they follow, regardless of what the facts are......in a manner that reminds me of how people defend their pastors.

Objectively speaking, you can see how the "c**ns attacking me" rhetoric is a big smokescreen from Umar, though. He makes public videos of his lectures available online , he does interviews in big media outlets and he always stands by what he says.

Everything is on public record, what could "his own race" be telling on him about to the extent that his license is in jeopardy now?

You make too much sense...

 

[jackson35]

The idea was horrible because it assumed that the Black elite would be able to help pull up the remaining 90%, when you take a step back it was a similar idea to Reagonomics in that there would be a magical multiplier effect. The problem with DuBois's initial stance is that 1) The Black elite was not in a political,financial, or cultural position to bring the bottom 90% up 2) As Frazier emphasized the cultural underpinning of the Black elite were too shallow and not adequately mentally separated from misguided white cultural norms to effectively serve as the cultural pillars for the bottom 90%.and 3) Self interest etched in a class identity would lead to policy suggestions and institutions being setup in which there wasn't enough attention paid to the variables prevalent among the bottom 90% which in many ways were unique from the problems/expectations of the "talented tenth".

dr Frazier can't speak because he was one of the black elites that he was hating on. 2 dubois influence a lot of people at fisk where he taught and a lot of black youth in his day. dr dubois was the one going around in the hood and encouraging black folks to start cooperatives that will sustain the hood until we get on our feet and be independent

 

[DrunkenNovice]

are you really using this unknown retarded suspected bedwench whose every video is about umar johnson (fukking obsessed much?) as some kind of indicator of his moral failings?

you nikkas are dweebs.

You seem pretty upset at this lady.

 

[jackson35]

You don't seem to know what the Talented Tenth was about and even WEB Dubois rejected the idea of the Talented Tenth....

why would dubois reject an idea that sustain him until he left for ghana in the 50's. all the people that step up into the plate of leadership at the time was influence bt the tt.

 

[SupremexKing]

You seem pretty upset at this lady.

The irony. Literally every one of her dozens of videos is about this man, but you're talking about me being upset?

 

[AlainLocke]

why would dubois reject an idea that sustain him until he left for ghana in the 50's. all the people that step up into the plate of leadership at the time was influence bt the tt.

Because the idea was created by White liberals that wanted to create an elite group of Black people and they proceeded to create schools in the South so Black people can become educated and lead the uneducated Blacks. Dubois became a socialist and realized that elite Blacks don't care about Black people and he favored grassroots politics.

The Talented Tenth is not a Black idea. It didn't come from Dubois. He just spread it.

And the same class of Black people he praised, supported and created got him exiled.

So....

 

[SupremexKing]

What I mean is that regardless of the facts or the nature of criticism, that old Black woman will defend her pastor.

People will defend Dr. Johnson, or any person they follow, regardless of what the facts are......in a manner that reminds me of how people defend their pastors.

Objectively speaking, you can see how the "c**ns attacking me" rhetoric is a big smokescreen from Umar, though. He makes public videos of his lectures available online , he does interviews in big media outlets and he always stands by what he says.

Everything is on public record, what could "his own race" be telling on him about to the extent that his license is in jeopardy now?

Wrong. If you told me that umar was a pedophile, sexual predator and it was empirically true, I would no longer support him. You have black people trying to shyt on him based off his pro black ideology, and cacs like @CharlieManson pretending to be black online to disparage what the man has to say. I cannot be on board with people trying to tear any man down that tells black people to love each other and to call
Our oppressors to task. Just so happens that all these things start to happen to him after he was on rolly the boule birds show speaking out against interracial dating. That's a fact. Another fact is that umar Johnson came up organically within the community, contrary to many of these scholarly boule negros who seem to be spearheading the effort to shyt on this brother.

 

[SupremexKing]

Social capital is important...which is what Umar has because he obviously is pretty broke financially. I shoulda clarified but I definitely wasn't talking like I expected one single person to write a check to put our issues on the map. But one or several people/groups have to have the social capital to mobilize us as a GROUP. With evidence and data based logic that can be used in a court of law or as fleshed out political agenda. Not Umar telling people gay people are pedophiles and that we should believe him because he's a "Doctor". There are many of those people out there who run Podcasts and YT channels who deserve our attention more than this clown.

Influential people with integrity whose message is based on a communal message of black politics is absolutely a great thing. We share more than we differ from each other. Whether you're from LA or Michigan trans or straight. You're black first and that's a big point we should be focusing on.

You're point out that umar is broke...for what? Name some black people who get rewarded by the dominant society from fighting for black people? Who becomes wealthy from fighting for explicitly black interests sir? You're doing a major disservice to the social ideology umar posits. There is nothing wrong with telling heterosexual black people to stay together. Nothing at all. In terms of intersectional negroes, I have no issue with working with them, but you seem to be overlooking the fact that the large majority of intersectional black people (gays, trans and all the rest) see themselves as their sexuality of political ideology (feminist) before being black. This is not conjecture, this is truth. If he doesn't agree with homosexuality, that means he doesn't have integrity? Or are you just mad because anyone who doesn't accept it should be seen as an enemy?