c00n Says We Need A White President

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Those are are all black Republicans (exception being Cornel West). Few if any of the black majority democrat listen to what they have to say. As far as the black majority voting block is concerned, they are simply an extention of white republicans who they presume to be inherently "racist" anyway.

I still agree with the author's main point, more often than not, criticism of Obama's policy decision making is often wavered and distracted by deeper social issues regarding the sensitivity of his race.

Ok, what about Charles Blow, some members of the Black Caucus, Bob Herbert, Melissa Harris Perry, Roland Martin, Micheal Eric Dyson, Toure, have criticized the president about job creation, toughness against repubs, addressing black folks' unique problems, lack of accountability against wall street, following some of GW Bush's policies

To suggest that black democrats are not criticizing his policies because he's black is not accurate and it seems to blindly piggy back on a comfortable stereotype that many of us have embraced
 

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Ok, what about Charles Blow, some members of the Black Caucus, Bob Herbert, Melissa Harris Perry, Roland Martin, Micheal Eric Dyson, Toure, have criticized the president about job creation, toughness against repubs, addressing black folks' unique problems, lack of accountability against wall street, following some of GW Bush's policies

To suggest that black democrats are not criticizing his policies because he's black is not accurate and it seems to blindly piggy back on a comfortable stereotype that many of us have embraced

All are ardent Obama supporters and defenders as well. Criticizing your momma aint the same as someone else doin' it. He was also "criticized", and yet his still received 95% of the black majority voting block either way. Besides, I wasn't referring to just black criticism, but he's received relatively mild criticism from his own party, the mainstream media, and the majority of white voters who backed him.

Secondly, my interpretation of the author's message wasn't just necessarily criticism itself, but the inadvertent distraction of the issue that 'race' brings to the forefront the accompanies any criticism of his policies. In otherwords, the author believes that a 'white' president will naturally eliminate that discussion altogether--and while he may have a point, I don't necessarily agree that the President has to be 'white' for the discussion to have more substance behind them.
 
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It doesn't matter what color. We just need a president that knows what the fukk he's doin.
 
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All are ardent Obama supporters and defenders as well. Criticizing your momma aint the same as someone else doin' it. He was also "criticized", and yet his still received 95% of the black majority voting block either way. Besides, I wasn't referring to just black criticism, but he's received relatively mild criticism from his own party, the mainstream media, and the majority of white voters who backed him.

Secondly, my interpretation of the author's message wasn't just necessarily criticism itself, but the inadvertent distraction of the issue that 'race' brings to the forefront the accompanies any criticism of his policies. In otherwords, the author believes that a 'white' president will naturally eliminate that discussion altogether--and while he may have a point, I don't necessarily agree that the President has to be 'white' for the discussion to have more substance behind them.

I gave you a list of black folks who critizied the President
You suggest they don't count because of their political affiliation
So I provided another list of democrats, or those who I assume are, but now you say they don't count because they more than likely voted for a democrat president?

All those I've mentioned were featured on main stream media criticizing the President. Including John Stewart, Bob Schieffer, Fox news, Ed Schultz, Chris Mattews
President during his first term encountered blue dog democrats that criticized and undermined his attempts to get shyt done, but yet you say he received relatively mild criticism from his own party
What about Alan Grayson who has criticized the President on his international polices and lack of toughness against repubs ?
 

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I gave you a list of black folks who critizied the President
You suggest they don't count because of their political affiliation
So I provided another list of democrats, or those who I assume are, but now you say they don't count because they more than likely voted for a democrat president?

All those I've mentioned were featured on main stream media criticizing the President. Including John Stewart, Bob Schieffer, Fox news, Ed Schultz, Chris Mattews
President during his first term encountered blue dog democrats that criticized and undermined his attempts to get shyt done, but yet you say he received relatively mild criticism from his own party
What about Alan Grayson who has criticized the President on his international polices and lack of toughness against repubs ?

Correct, initially the blacks that you were able to name were primarily conservatives to begin with; arguably they were no different than the white conservatives who do so anyway.

The Democrats that you named, were critical of Barack Obama, yet were still ardent defenders and supporters of his policies (that includes John Stewart, Bob Schieffer--who presume is liberal, Ed Shultz, Chris Matthews...and I'll toss in Bill Maher, Rachel Maddow and Matt Damon). That's the slight misleading fact of information that wasn't mentioned. They were also the mouth piece of the party who alleged that criticism against Obama was primarily due to his race (the very distraction that I was referring to).

Second, you seem to be obsessing on this idea that I said that Barack lacks criticism (when in fact every President since the infancy of this country has been technically critisized by his party and opposers alike, so I hardly think naming names is a salient point ), when initially what I said that the racial issue (as referenced by the author) appears to be an inadvertent distraction that inhibits any discussion to address concerns regarding his policies.

His suggestion is to get another White President in office to avoid that--as I said before, disagree with his solution, but acknowledge the problem that he identified.
 

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i like obama, his polices helped me out and im not afraid to support him being black
 
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Correct, initially the blacks that you were able to name were primarily conservatives to begin with; arguably they were no different than the white conservatives who do so anyway.

The Democrats that you named, were critical of Barack Obama, yet were still ardent defenders and supporters of his policies (that includes John Stewart, Bob Schieffer--who presume is liberal, Ed Shultz, Chris Matthews...and I'll toss in Bill Maher, Rachel Maddow and Matt Damon). That's the slight misleading fact of information that wasn't mentioned. They were also the mouth piece of the party who alleged that criticism against Obama was primarily due to his race (the very distraction that I was referring to).

Second, you seem to be obsessing on this idea that I said that Barack lacks criticism (when in fact every President since the infancy of this country has been technically critisized by his party and opposers alike, so I hardly think naming names is a salient point ), when initially what I said that the racial issue (as referenced by the author) appears to be an inadvertent distraction that inhibits any discussion to address concerns regarding his policies.

His suggestion is to get another White President in office to avoid that--as I said before, disagree with his solution, but acknowledge the problem that he identified.

Don't be intellectually dishonest. The folks you mentioned made a clear distinction in what they deemed to be political criticism versus race base criticism , such as the need for the President to show birth certificate and immigration reform debate

My disagreement with you has nothing to do with being obsessed, but more with ensuring you're not repeating and spewing stereotypes as fact. You initially focused on black community members' lack of critique of president

I don't agree with that.

What I think his point is, is that Obama is somewhat shielded from being constructively criticized in the black community (or in general) as a result to the sensitivity of his race and/or ancestry. It's almost a distraction to some extent.

I happen to agree with him for the most part.

My only disagreement is the idea that having a white president is the only solution that problem.

So I provided a list of black/white democrat/repubs who were on the main stream media criticizing the President, despite his race. Which directly address your initial and evolving points

If you are comfortable with merging the black and white conservative critics, then why haven't you done the same for black and white democrats? Which now suggest, if white democrats are criticizing the president, then it implies black democrats are too

If "President since the infancy of this country has been technically critisized by his party and opposers alike" why do you believe there's lack of it now due to his race, since I provided a list that suggest otherwise? I would argue there's more unnecessary critique due to his race by all folks regardless of race

Or are you focusing on those black folks who say they love the President because he is black, while ignoring the actions of other black folks?
 

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Ok, what about Charles Blow, some members of the Black Caucus, Bob Herbert, Melissa Harris Perry, Roland Martin, Micheal Eric Dyson, Toure, have criticized the president about job creation, toughness against repubs, addressing black folks' unique problems, lack of accountability against wall street, following some of GW Bush's policies

To suggest that black democrats are not criticizing his policies because he's black is not accurate and it seems to blindly piggy back on a comfortable stereotype that many of us have embraced

And lets not forgot two of his strongest and most vocal critics anywhere the socio-political arena of media: Cornel West and Tavis Smiley.
 

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What point is he making? Black people would have been shytted on, regardless if the president is white or black, because we live in a system of white supremacy. Before Obama won in 2008, every president has been a WHITE male. Now this fukking c00n wants to argue that we need a white president to set things right??

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"we" dont need shyt....you're a half breed hybrid mulatto, like the president
 
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