Buzzfeed: families say male friends, family radicalized by misogynist, anti LGBT Andrew Tate, Kevin Samuels, Fresh Fit podcast

[2 Up 2 Down]

Gender wars are soooo played out man.

I remember hearing the same exact arguments from both sides via the Coli and LSA today as far back as 2007 on the Blackest section on Yahoo Answers. Literally the same arguments filled with Black posters posting pics of themselves and their mediocre looking non-Black partners.

I just concluded that Black men and women will always be "opps" online and on spcial media while solely blaming each other for the Black community's problems.

Thankfully, I see nothing but Black couples, families and friends everywhere I go so it hasn't really impacted real life on a grand scale................yet.

It's getting worse. All of these Nazi Trump loving anti immigrant white boys could be found on the chan sites 10+ years ago and they just needed someone like Trump so they could reveal themselves in real life

 

[skyrunner1]

You know it's an aspect of this that may actually be them responding to the girls their same age. What is so horrible and scary about the advice on the manosphere? No one has seemed to be able to point out to me what this bad radical content is.

You wont get a serious answer, just platitudes that try to see if you have a simp chip to activate and be an attack dog. Manosphere is nothing but men centered content, this website techinically could be a "manosphere" space.. Thats how ridiculous it is, its a catch all term to dog whistle anytime men want to exchange ideas. Crazy is men join in on it too, kinda like they will throw the term incel around and a dude could be married with kids, lol..

For some reason it is a BIG issue when men start to discuss their experiences about relationships/dating. When men exchange ideas/notes on that topic it brings all type of people that want to police your thoughts, language, everything. There is something about keeping a group of men lost or disillusioned to the realities even if everyone around him knows how he is moving about is completely wrong and counterproductive

 

[SNG]

My chicks friend is dating an older dude which I met him this weekend and this man legit said he's member of the church of tate. nikka kept sayin Haram and all his catchphrases. My chicks friend is only with him because the sex is good but doesn't see a future with him. That is all I can say.

Some of this shyt has really gone to nikkaz heads for real.

 

[8WON6]

my two cents:
-yall need to realize if you say you don't want to date a single mother people will call you "radicalized". Or if you simply have any preference as a man that's considered "radical". You don't even have to get into that "mass shooter" extreme shyt to be called radical.
-it's still pretty clear that a lot of people have no idea what the manosphere/redpill talks about. people think they tell you to beat women or how to date-rape women or any other criminal wild shyt. One of the biggest things the manosphere says is to stop chasing women and build yourself as a man FOR YOU. A lot of men that come from single mother households get told that your whole life is supposed to be in service to "queens" and that if you do that you're entitled to some golden p*ssy somewhere. This is how a lot of these killer simps are created. It's not the manosphere doing that, it's the simp culture telling men that if you simp and pander to women you will be guaranteed love, respect, and p*ssy.

 

[Easy-E]

My knowledge of Andrew Tate, Kevin Samuels, and Joe Rogan is limited, but I don’t know them to advocate for violence against women or lgbtq.

I can only speak to Kevin Samuels (watch him, weekly...RIP), but, you're either a simp or a violent misogynist on the internet

Andrew Tate's issue seems to be that he plays a character--like a Bond villian--but, when given the chance to explain himself, he explained specific accuscations of misogyny.

Again, I don't know him outside of his recent blow up, but, you're either Derrick Jaxn or Hilter to some of these ppl.

This is what happens when you don't talk with men but instead talk down on them. Yeah, some people are incels and are problems but they can be talked out of the more toxic aspects of those lifestyles. I've talked to some to great results. It amazes me how people are making what is a simple thing hard.
It's really not that hard.

Exactly

The result of this overdoing of the girl power shyt is lost young men and boys

Nice video on a author who wrote a book on it (20 min)

 

[SNG]

my two cents:
-yall need to realize if you say you don't want to date a single mother people will call you "radicalized". Or if you simply have any preference as a man that's considered "radical". You don't even have to get into that "mass shooter" extreme shyt to be called radical.
-it's still pretty clear that a lot of people have no idea what the manosphere/redpill talks about. people think they tell you to beat women or how to date-rape women or any other criminal wild shyt. One of the biggest things the manosphere says is to stop chasing women and build yourself as a man FOR YOU. A lot men that come from single mother households get told that you're whole life is supposed to be in service to "queens" and that if you do that you're entitled to some golden p*ssy somewhere. This is how a lot of these killer simps are created. It's not the manosphere doing that, it's the simp culture telling men that if you simp and pander to women you will be guaranteed love, respect, and p*ssy.

Which I agree with that a men shouldn't be chasing women and focus on building which some manosphere nikkaz are good for encouraging. Where it gets toxic is when you here them fresh and fit nikkas say they don't date black chicks or don't fukk with single moms and shyt. As a man you can have your views and shyt but when you express them openly to the public and it's a different perspective then your going to get criticism. At the end of the day it's where do you stand as a man. Some of these nikkaz outchea are warping the template there's away to be masucline without saying much. You got nikkaz with no pot to piss in talking like they on some high value man shyt.

 

[8WON6]

Which I agree with that a men shouldn't be chasing women and focus on building which some manosphere nikkaz are good for encouraging. Where it gets toxic is when you here them fresh and fit nikkas say they don't date black chicks or don't fukk with single moms and shyt. As a man you can have your views and shyt but when you express them openly to the public and it's a different perspective then your going to get criticism. At the end of the day it's where do you stand as a man. Some of these nikkaz outchea are warping the template there's away to be masucline without saying much. You got nikkaz with no pot to piss in talking like they on some high value man shyt.

i fully agree on Fresh and Fit. I'll concede that they are like the epitome of like redpill caricatures that people think the manosphere is. But people tend to think the dumb shyt they say represents 100% of that stuff.

 

[audemarzz]

there are men out here who are "involuntarily celibate."


I'm talking about young men.

Suck my dikk

 

[SNG]

i fully agree on Fresh and Fit. I'll concede that they are like the epitome of like redpill caricatures that people think the manosphere is. But people tend to think the dumb shyt they say represents 100% of that stuff.

Sadly the dumb shyt is what will get them clicks and attention no different than Kevin Samuels arguing with chicks. People aren’t going to check the full conversations that lead to those points. It doesn’t help with the men that will post the clips that could deem toxic all on there Twitter feeds and social media either which further warps the message.

 

[audemarzz]

there are men out here who are "involuntarily celibate."


I'm talking about young men.

They're a fringe group on reddit, lumping them in with divorcees and nikkas in arrears...is disingenuous. Yall do this on purpose.

 

[skyrunner1]

Which I agree with that a men shouldn't be chasing women and focus on building which some manosphere nikkaz are good for encouraging. Where it gets toxic is when you here them fresh and fit nikkas say they don't date black chicks or don't fukk with single moms and shyt. As a man you can have your views and shyt but when you express them openly to the public and it's a different perspective then your going to get criticism. At the end of the day it's where do you stand as a man. Some of these nikkaz outchea are warping the template there's away to be masucline without saying much. You got nikkaz with no pot to piss in talking like they on some high value man shyt.

Agree with fresh and fit being a carictature and really b*stard version but I cant co sign the reasons you used. Lets reallllllly look at what you are saying, just because two foreign guys say they dont want to date "ghetto/hood" or whatever descriptor they use type black chicks and/or single moms that makes them toxic. Why does where the next man chose to stick his package make them toxic, do you think men should be forced to be with those women? Do you keep the same energy and police when women say they dont want lame, boring, short men or "brokies"?

I think one of the dudes was actually married to a single mom, so he was open to it before, are you saying whatever he experienced doesnt matter and he should be still doing it even though he has improved his station in life? I think its "toxic" when other men try to say what dudes should do even if they dont want to, why would you even care, that just means more options for you!

Me personally I have dated single moms and have no issue with it but I know Im not gonna catch feelings and usually we are just having consensual fun but I would never tell another man what he should or shouldnt do and dont consider it toxic if a man said he is not interested in that, especially if he tried it before and came out on losing end..

 

[SNG]

Agree with fresh and fit being a carictature and really b*stard version but I cant co sign the reasons you used. Lets reallllllly look at what you are saying, just because two foreign guys say they dont want to date "ghetto/hood" or whatever descriptor they use type black chicks and/or single moms that makes them toxic. Why does where the next man chose to stick his package make them toxic, do you think men should be forced to be with those women? Do you keep the same energy and police when women say they dont want lame, boring, short men or "brokies"?

I think one of the dudes was actually married to a single mom, so he was open to it before, are you saying whatever he experienced doesnt matter and he should be still doing it even though he has improved his station in life? I think its "toxic" when other men try to say what dudes should do even if they dont want to, why would you even care, that just means more options for you!

Me personally I have dated single moms and have no issue with it but I know Im not gonna catch feelings and usually we are just having consensual fun but I would never tell another man what he should or shouldnt do and dont consider it toxic if a man said he is not interested in that, especially if he tried it before and came out on losing end..

Hold up I don't agree with it when women do it either. I'm not saying men should be forced to be with anything. But let's look at reality single moms still get wifed up. I was just at a wedding where the man was 47 and he married a woman 10 years older than him she has 3 kids he has none. I personally don't date single moms because of experience but I'm not going to shyt on the men that do or want to. Not every experience is bad in dating a single mom. Alot of these men come from the spot that no nikka should even consider a relationship with a single mother like it's fact all are damage goods. Like Russell Wilson gets shamed for being with Ciara because she dated and had a kid with future. Tbh Future's son looks like he's in better hands with Russell than he is with future.

 

[NatiboyB]

Which I agree with that a men shouldn't be chasing women and focus on building which some manosphere nikkaz are good for encouraging. Where it gets toxic is when you here them fresh and fit nikkas say they don't date black chicks or don't fukk with single moms and shyt. As a man you can have your views and shyt but when you express them openly to the public and it's a different perspective then your going to get criticism. At the end of the day it's where do you stand as a man. Some of these nikkaz outchea are warping the template there's away to be masucline without saying much. You got nikkaz with no pot to piss in talking like they on some high value man shyt.

so to you the issue is them having their own preference just like you have yours? It's in no way a good resource investment to date a woman with a child that isn't yours. Them not wanting to date black women once again is a preference. We are supposed to be understanding of all of the other LGBT etc but when men have a preference it's negative?

 

[mastermind]

Suck my dikk

So it's you they are talking about.

 

[NatiboyB]

Hold up I don't agree with it when women do it either. I'm not saying men should be forced to be with anything. But let's look at reality single moms still get wifed up. I was just at a wedding where the man was 47 and he married a woman 10 years older than him she has 3 kids he has none. I personally don't date single moms because of experience but I'm not going to shyt on the men that do or want to. Not every experience is bad in dating a single mom. Alot of these men come from the spot that no nikka should even consider a relationship with a single mother like it's fact all are damage goods. Like Russell Wilson gets shamed for being with Ciara because she dated and had a kid with future. Tbh Future's son looks like he's in better hands with Russell than he is with future.

you know that was the exception not the rule.