Buzzfeed: families say male friends, family radicalized by misogynist, anti LGBT Andrew Tate, Kevin Samuels, Fresh Fit podcast

[Formerly Black Trash]

It’s not.

It’s nikkas that have every opportunity in front of them that 99% of American children do being followers.

Bruh you sound like immigrant gang

 

[ScottyG]

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[⠀X ⠀]

She's being disingenuous. Yes it is a wealthy county, but it is also DC North.

Yeah, that was the dumbest thing I’ve read on this site. Let them tell it, there’s a bunch of Theo Huxtables out there, shooting people down in the streets

 

[BrothaZay]

How did you make this about Black men?

Idiot. Did you comprehend what she said ?

 

[ignorethis]

First black men need to stop having children with multiple women.

Black women need to stop having children with men who already have kids.

Women should be weary of men with high body counts, but in reality it seems to be the opposite.

Nick Cannon and his whole harem of birds is a microcosm of what's wrong with the black American community. Almost all the birds in his harem will be single mothers and unwitting matriarchs. When this starts happening on a mass scale, you get the current situation we're in today.

The problem is there are way more black women having children with the same men, than black men that have children with multiple women and this this supported by statistics; it’s a false equivalency to pretend black men and black women are contributing the same amount to the family dysfunction in America.

Brings me back to another annoying thing I notice as a black man in America, this narrative of us being irresponsible sex fiends, when if we look at the statistics for children and STDs, straight black men are not the “sexually irresponsible” demographic in Black America.

Black women help push the narrative the hardest when statistics support they’re the ones that make terribly irresponsible decisions when they get horny, only the gay men are worse.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Spoken like a performing clown.

What is recent, is relative. 30 years in the history of mankind is recent, for someone in their 30s it is most of their lives. Miss me with that disingenuous shyt.

And it is not something that has me crying. I look at it play out with laughter. Hate it or love it, they're getting exposure to the type of obnoxious behaviour we have to wade through.

You expect me to crack out the violin because some immature clown described himself as "a high value man". fukk off and twist your ankle in the process.

You're in here primarily posting to get daps and resorting to negging me with some incestuous remark, and yet I'm the performing clown?

Another thread with you telling on yourself again.

What is relative here is you're a male, so 30 years in the history of mankind is nothing to the 1000s of years women have had without a mic. You made it a point that whatever trend of verbiage men use to refer to themselves as is only parrying what women say about themselves, but the problem with that is, men have always had a stage to say whatever and to whomever, and women haven't.

It only stands to reason women are gonna feel some type of way when they can finally speak for themselves, but then men are trying to assume the same role as if they've been silenced too.

 

[Dallas' 4 Eva]

Okay serious question. How has the Manosphere helped BM specifically other than give you all a space to cry about women?

Because last I checked BM, respectfully, are still at the bottom compared to every other male group and that doesn't seem to be changing at all.

In fact, from my observations the Black Manosphere seems to encourage BM to war against the only real group in your corner which is BW.

One of the main points of the manosphere is that black women aren't in the corner of black men though. Hell look at the Malika Andrews situation just recently, or Jamelle Hill, both women with public platforms who constantly disparage black men. That's just two examples, there are many more.

I don't necesarily agree with how the manosphere gets its message across because it comes off too extreme, but to act like they kind of don't have a valid point to argue in the first place about some things is being willfully obtuse.

 

[tuckgod]

Bruh you sound like immigrant gang

The only gang I’m a part of is truth gang family

 

[ba'al]

Idiot. Did you comprehend what she said ?

 

[Formerly Black Trash]

The only gang I’m a part of is truth gang family

Who curated the culture for the U.S?

It's white people

 

[™BlackPearl The Empress™]

As an African born, raised, and living in America I wouldn’t say American BW are really in their men’s corner, I feel like most Africans would agree, and a lot of American BM would agree.

I date American BW exclusively and notice a significant amount of disdain for black manhood in general, either doubting your competence/intelligence when you have accomplished way more than them or anybody in their family, subtly trying to tear down your confidence when they feel like you’re arrogant, just an all around energy of “you’re a simple black man, and it’s my job to mold, control, and lead you to greatness/happiness”.

And it’s not all of them, it’s a lot of wonderful ones, some stuck in the opposite situation, with a man who tears them down to cope with their own insecurities.

But regardless, a lot of them have the traits I listed above (from my dating experience it’s the college ones that are the worst with it, hell my ex was an AKA and she told me that her old ass soror basically teaches them that “men are meant to be tamed, molded, and obedient.” We obviously couldn’t work out, I’m a bushboy not a honeydo)

Like if I had never went back to Africa and realized there was salvation in a culture that actually allows, enables, and encourages black boys/black men to be great and obtain respect and power through their greatness, I would have lost hope as a black man in this world.

In African cultures it’s typically accepted that men run the society, but women create and mold the men that run their societies, so the power balance is always equal. Any complaints that BW levy against BM in America are usually issues that they are responsible in creating, and vice versa.

The manosphere is just allowing complaints that have been being made by black men for years to finally get the same reach as the complaints levied by black women. Black women are on television talk show or a major blog platform talking about the failings of black men 2-3 times a week in America, whether it’s Fox Soul, TheShadeRoom, TheReal. Now the black men get to defend themselves and air out their complaints about black women it’s hate speech lol.

Even in the comment I’m responding too, you take the time to point out black men are at the bottom of the male totem pole; that doesn’t exactly yell “I’m in your corner”.

Plus black women are at the bottom of the female totem poll as well, so wouldn’t that mean black women also have no idea what they’re doing?

Respectfully, BW are the most race loyal group of people in this country. BM are the least. And that is backed by data.

BW have stood by BM and mothered their children, raised them and loved them for hundreds of years. So yes BW are the biggest supporters of BM regardless of what you perceive as an outsider looking in.

And stating the facts doesn't mean I don't support Black men. Lying or pretending to make someone feel better is coddling. I don't coddle adults.

Yes Blk women are at the bottom socially as far as women but we can only go so far as the status of our men. WW are at the top because their men put them on a pedestal.

However economically BW have independently made financial strides in mass.

We want better for ourselves and our men but we can't mother adult men to greatness. BW have zero control over the rank that BM have in society. That is something they have to improve and want for themselves.

 

[BrothaZay]

??

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

You not making no sense my guy. I remember when Jess Hilarious made a joke about Sikhs wearing turbans or something.

And Punjabis made her back back for saying that lame shyt. But when brothas do it. We're wrong FOH with that weak p*ssy talk my guy.

It's more examples but I don't get why nikkas always have to be gentle, tuck our tails in, and take an imaginary high road.

And what is it you hope to achieve by taking the other extreme?

You think you're gonna reach a road of peace and understanding, or it's going to be a constant re-run of ignorance and destruction, over and over until you pass that bicycle of thought onto the next generation and they ride down the same road?

 

[Hater Eraser]

 

[Jay Kast]

This thread is from both sides at times.

Black men need black women, and black women need black men. There is no other way around it.

This is like the plug complaining about the socket and vice versa. Until we work together, ain't shyt happening.

Black women empowerment talk oft-times borders on misandristic - not all of it, but women have IN GENERAL eaten it up wholesale at the black communities detriment. On the flipside, this emerging force that is the manosphere (corny!) is the male empowerment version that also sometimes borders on misogynistic, not all of it but more men are beginning to run with the hot takes that cause more harm than good.

The problem is our ability to discern prudent messaging from the fringe, this lies within the individuals level of accountability. If a person has little to no means of holding themselves accountable, they will gravitate towards the fringe messaging of blaming/attacking the opposite gender instead of finding flaws within their character to improve to better their results in the dating pool.

An insecurity that develops into a ever growing chasm of loneliness due to the inability to think in a nuanced manner regarding the opposite sex, instead painting with negative broad strokes that justify their poor choices and impotence (men and women) in the dating world.

"ALL THE GOOD MEN ARE EITHER DEAD, IN JAIL, GAY OR MARRIED"

"ALL THE GOOD WOMEN HAVE ALREADY BEEN SNATCHED UP, ALL THATS LEFT IS HOES, GOLD DIGGERS AND FAT bytchES"

"IF HE AINT PAYING MY RENT, NAILS, AND CLOTHES WHY WOULD I GIVE HIM THE TIME OF DAY"

"IF SHES NOT PUTTING OUT AFTER THE FIRST DATE THEN IM NOT INTERESTED ANY MORE"

Both sides have work to do taming the extraneous bullshyt that is circulating into impressionable minds. There IS a middle ground where both genders can maintain respect for themselves and others - but the allure for total control/power is too much for some influencers to ignore.