Bullshyt: The Official 2016 Chicago Bulls Offseason Thread

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Jimmy :hula: Fred

I need some previous examples of players who publicly shyt on their coaches and who refused to "buy into" their systems coming back a year later and everything being nice and dandy
 

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Missed the game because of work, but turns out i would've missed it anyway. Cozi tv? :dahell:

Sounds like gar pax came out :bustback:in the presser. and they got job security :why: but no one else is safe, sounds like chicago bulls culture :obama:

ive accepted That rose is out one way or another. Best for both parties, but if they trade jimmy, i cant see myself getting excited about this team. i been seeing the reports, but i cant believe its that bad.
The reports are propaganda created by Garpax deflecting blame as usual.I don't believe any bullshyt that's been written these clowns are fukking jokes
 

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Jimmy :hula: Fred

I need some previous examples of players who publicly shyt on their coaches and who refused to "buy into" their systems coming back a year later and everything being nice and dandy
Only way he's escaping this is if FO doesn't get a sweet deal from Boston, Orlando, or some other team.
 

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I just watched their sneak attack drive by press conference(to hold something like that with the GS/Kobe final game, Hawks game, both Baseball games going on shows how cowardly garpax is) Pure bullshyt and fluff. It was interesting how basically Pax shytted on Jimmy and he's self appointed leadership status. Also, saying Forman was safe despite his going around his channels in the league trying to latch on to a team/pass the blame for this year on Pax is mind boggling. But this team will never change. Not even removing the two headed idiots. I think @god shamgod said it earlier, but as long as this idiot reinsdorf owns this team, nothing will change. He is too loyal for no reason. He doesn't care about basketball and never has outside it being a revenue machine. Pax will be here no matter how many coaches he runs out. Gar will be here no matter how delusional and slimy he is.
 

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First things first. Everyone is on the table. No one is safe. Now if that's the case, Jimmy is your most valuable asset. Plus he honestly needs to go. Sounds like he caused way too much chaos in the locker room with vets who remembers him being a nobody averaging 3 pts behind Deng. Plus he's relationship with Hoiberg. That's never getting repaired. And Hoiberg is not going anywhere because firing him admits another wrong by Gar/pax and they are obviously keeping as much heat as possible. So move him for a couple of picks/solid pieces. Dun also. Go after Batum. I know it's unpopular, but try to get Noah back. We need a defensive minded big who's a leader. That's another issue because Fred shytted on him early and made him look like a clown. Noah will probably hard ball the FO for that. And I am not willing to give 10 mil to a diminished player like him. So we should probably look at a Biyombo/Mahimi and draft another big. Also pick up a PG for Rose when he walks
 

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scathing article in today's trib:

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Nobody in Chicago sports gets a bigger pass than Jerry Reinsdorf

Nobody in Chicago sports gets a bigger pass than Jerry Reinsdorf
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Photos of Jerry Reinsdorf.

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David HaughContact ReporterChicago Tribune
At 10:15 p.m. Wednesday, the Bulls issued a 107-word statement on behalf of Chairman Jerry Reinsdorf.

The Bulls had just completed a season as disappointing and dysfunctional as any in the franchise's 50-year history and Reinsdorf, as insulated as ever, responded with a paragraph. Reinsdorf apparently doesn't answer questions about the Bulls anymore unless they involve the '90s dynasty or his induction into the basketball Hall of Fame. He is immune to public pressure because he considers himself above it, not because it doesn't exist.

Transparency is a trend in professional sports management Reinsdorf chooses not to embrace; he used the same weak mass-emailing method last year to explain the firing of Tom Thibodeau.

"The resources needed will be made available to get this team moving in the right direction,'' Reinsdorf said Wednesday night.

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http://chicagotribune.sportschatter...athletes-celebrities-honor-kobe-bryant-kicks/
Anybody know where an NBA team shops for accountability?

That was the word Bulls executive vice president John Paxson threw around loosely when he and general manager Gar Forman held their hastily arranged postseason postmortem nearly an hour before Reinsdorf hit Send.

On a busy night when the Blackhawks began the NHL playoffs and both of the city's baseball teams played, the Bulls decided to publicly address how they went from challenging the Cavaliers to qualifying for the NBA lottery with essentially the same roster. They could have done this before their season finale against the Sixers instead of immediately after, but that would have left everybody too much time to digest it.

Whether Paxson was leaving town Thursday or not, the Bulls had to know scheduling an end-of-the-year news conference 20 minutes after the season ended would come across as corporate cowardice and cast them as an organization in denial. Doing so anyway suggests they don't care about the perception they created. The reality is it also instills season-ticket holders who keep filling the United Center for some reason with little confidence that anything will change.


Neither Paxson nor Forman will lose their jobs. The same coach, Fred Hoiberg, will return. Some of his staff will go and the roster will turn over, sure, but based on the decisions of the same guys held responsible for the Bulls missing the playoffs for the first time since 2008.


Bulls management vows to stay basic course, but there will be changes

Bulls fans desperately want a makeover. Team officials keep insisting they see things worth salvaging, which only makes you wonder how closely anybody has looked in the mirror.

"Gar and I are accountable for what this team did this year,'' Paxson said. "We don't run away from it. We accept it. That's on us.''

They were noble words that meant nothing. Credit Paxson for accepting responsibility in a long, emotional opening statement but his definition of accountable differs from many of his peers because he works for Reinsdorf, who wrote his own glossary. The most interesting part of the press conference was the irony of Paxson promising players that training camp would be harder less than a year after firing a coach considered too tough.

If the Bulls truly operated in an atmosphere of accountability, would Forman have lauded Jimmy Butler for a "fantastic year" in a season he regressed defensively and allowed his ego to run amok? Or would the GM have expressed satisfaction in the progress of Nikola Mirotic and Doug McDermott? If Thibodeau made everybody in the work place too uneasy, one could argue the Reinsdorf approach leaves people on the Bulls' payroll too comfortable.

If Reinsdorf indeed were holding his front office accountable, either Paxson or Forman would be fired or reassigned, with Forman the most likely candidate for dismissal for being the one who orchestrated Hoiberg's arrival. Pro sports usually work that way. But Reinsdorf loves the status quo, and gradually that thinking creeps into the minds of the people who work for him. Reinsdorf's defenders describe it as loyalty but, in the case of the Bulls, it merely disguises a lazy approach to running a team worth $2.3 billion. Arrogance also contributes.

The Bulls should be lamenting not winning NBA championships, not missing the playoffs. An engaged owner or chairman would be front and center, at the appropriate time, promising fans a better effort and putting his people on notice.

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Summaries compiled by Tribune reporter K.C. Johnson.

The man often referred to as the greatest owner ever in this sports city due to six Bulls championships and a White Sox World Series title now risks becoming as out of touch and out of date as former Blackhawks owner Bill Wirtz became. Nobody in Chicago sports consistently gets a bigger pass than Reinsdorf does.

Imagine the outcry if Bears chairman George McCaskey had resorted to issuing a statement following the disastrous 2014 season — the equivalent to this Bulls' debacle. Instead, McCaskey openly accepted the criticism his franchise deserved, admitted his mother, Virginia was "pissed off,'' and vowed changes that came quickly.

While Cubs chairman Tom Ricketts remains as accessible to fans and media as he was during the dark days of Wrigley Field renovation, Reinsdorf stays in his bunker. Can anyone imagine man-of-the-people Blackhawks chairman Rocky Wirtz standing pat if his team started the season thinking finals and ended it missing the playoffs?

So while Paxson and Forman left a lasting impression Wednesday night with empty rhetoric delivered at a moment's notice, remember they only were following the lead of their boss, wherever he is.

dhaugh@tribpub.com
 
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