Bulls is 25-10 number 1 in east. How far can they go if healthy

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They are tough. Can they play like this for an entire 82 games tho?
I think we can get better.

Vuc has started to turn it around.

Coby missed the beginning of the season because of a torn labrum, came back for like 7 games then went out with COVID.



Averaging 16/3/3 on 47%/43% splits his last 8 games.
 

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Demar imo is still like our number 2 option

He just been Ballin Lije he is a number 1

But I see it as still
Zach,
Demar
Vuc

That's why Playoff Demar don't worry me, as other times he was called to be a no. 1 option
.this time he has a player better than him to rely on

So he can comfortably play No. 2


Question is how will Zach look
 
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As far as a healthy Bucks or Nets let them...

Buck or Nets have to play each other before the ECF and the Bulls could be in the ECF...

They fukk around and get the Bucks or Nets in the 1st round and thats a 5 game series...6 if the Bucks or Nets go up 3 - 1 and just don't care about game 5....

Great news for the Bulls though...they went from being one of the 5 worst teams in the nba for years with no hope of anything to a should be perennial playoff team that should only be losing to the team that is going to come out of the East this year...

Front office hit it out of the Park...coaching is pretty solid...team makes sense on paper AND makes sense when you watch them play...I always thought it was weird to do a sign and trade with the spurs when they could have just signed Derpzam outright and Thad Young could help them right now...but they are trying to be a playoff team so that 1st round pick is inconsequential to them and Thad only has 1 more year and wouldn't be back there beyond this year anyway... Eversley BETTER get some serious Executive of the Year consideration especially after he had to clean up the cesspool of shyt GarPax left behind:mjpls:

I need to go ahead and get my Eversley fired or his contract not renewed 3 years from now cause the bulls can't beat the Bucks or Nets and thus they need some new cac GM to come in and sign insert big name star he won't ever sign post ready :mjpls:

That’s an excellent point…to have a legitimate chance they would have to hold on to number 1. The problem is in a 7 game that’s 4 games of the whole Nets Crew vs 3 & they have nothing for a Giannis ducking his head down possession after possession
 
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I don't think the Bucs are THAT good. I'd be more worried about Nets/Heat at full strength if I were the Bulls. Too many versatile players that can hang with the Bulls lack of bench.

The Bulls have no playoff experience as a unit versus The Bucks that are battle tested at this point. It’s not even necessarily a matter of THAT good. There’s always going to be an element of muscle memory young teams typically can’t fukk with when it’s time to swings series
 

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That’s an excellent point…to have a legitimate chance they would have to hold on to number 1. The problem is in a 7 game that’s 4 games of the whole Nets Crew vs 3 & they have nothing for a Giannis ducking his head down possession after possession
Patrick might or might not be our answer to giannis defensive wise or atleast to throw a body at him

Issue is , how we look coming back after missing months
 

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What is Derozans legacy? He got sonned by Lebron repeatedly? Uh so has literally every team and player that is NOT the Spurs, Mavs, or Warriors

Deborah's legacy to this point is mid-level star with an Achilles heel that could be exposed in Gut Check Time. Level below HOFer...

This one season alone is turning him into a borderline Famer; one more year like this without a drop off in the postseason would lock him in as a Famer. He's in Y13....

To answer OP question, Bulls are the second best East team right now (after Milwaukee), and absolutely should be viewed as legit contenders...

Yo I can’t wait until the playoffs come and Nets get they ass knocked out again Jesus :ohlawd: :steviej:

Lotta these nikkas like learning stuff the hard way. The Nets are not winning a championship, healthy or not...

Demar imo is still like our number 2 option

He just been Ballin Lime he is a number 1

But I see it as still
Zach,
Demar
Vuc

All the advanced metrics say DeMar is the best player and the eye test does as well...
 

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The Nets with all 3 of them are the favorites and should win. 3 of the top 5 iso scorers in the league, nobody can stop that.

However the Bulls are the best equipped team in the league to try to stop them. They have the best perimeter defense in the league when everybody is healthy. Lonzo, Caruso, Javonte Green, Ayo, and Derrick Jones are very good defenders. Troy Brown Jr and Lavine are at least decent. Coby White has even been D'ing up lately. We always have at least 2 of those guys out there. Tony Bradley is also a decent back up center (defensively). And Pat Williams should be back for the playoffs, and he's at least decent, we don't know how good he can be on that end yet. There's also Alfonso Mckinnie now who is 6'8 and decent. The Bulls have the most bodies to throw at teams.

DJJ guarded Durant as well as one can in the first meeting this season. The Bulls could realistically throw DJJ, Pat, Javonte, Troy Brown, McKinnie, and even Lonzo at Durant if they're all healthy. They all have long enough arms to pester KD a bit.

And then for Kyrie and Harden we have all those guys + Caruso and Ayo. That's 8 good perimeter defenders (9 if you count Zach) they can throw at teams. Durant is a perimeter player at the end of the day. The top players in the east are:

Durant
Harden
Kyrie
Giannis
Middleton
Holiday
Jimmy
Lowry
Bam
Mobley
Garland
Embiid
Harris
Beal
Kuzma I have to list just bc he is built to torch the Bulls
Tatum
Brown
Lamelo
Bridges
Siakim/OG/Barnes

Trae
Collins
Sabonis
Levert

I bolded the guys that are big enough and play big enough to give the Bulls' defenders I just listed problems. I already talked about Durant and realistically nobody can stop him if he's hitting his shots. Giannis is probably the biggest issue for the Bulls, but hopefully you can force him into missed jumpers in the playoffs (that's the only hope). Mobley is a rookie and not that strong but is long enough and good enough that the Bulls would not be able to stop him (he would have to have a Tim Duncan hall of famer rookie playoff campaign, which I don't think is impossible but isn't likely). They can't stop Embiid and would have to outscore the Sixers, which doesn't seem that hard. Kuzma- Pat can probly shut him down but he was torching the Bulls last game and he's 6'10. Bridges is strong as shyt but probably isn't a good enough shooter to score enough to get past the Bulls in a series. But he has a good mentality and I wouldn't count him out, and the Hornets in general can score with anyone. A couple off games when they're on could be a problem for any team, but at the end of the day their defense will probably fail them. The Raptors are an interestingly built team that would have to rely on a leap in offense from one of Siakim, OG, or Barnes, who have all shown a lot of skill this season, to beat the Bulls. Their shooting is questionable, but Pat can only guard one of them and all 3 of those guys can overpower smaller players. Sabonis is an actual big man that has torched the Bulls twice this season, but the Pacers will probably blow it up.

The unbolded guys play more perimeter-based games that the Bulls are well equipped to guard. So it basically comes down to Embiid and Giannis. With Embiid, even if he averages 40/15 for a series I think the Bulls can still beat them by outplaying them on the perimeter. Giannis will be forced into jump shots/forced to pass, and hopefully Donte Divincenzo and Bobby Portis don't kill us from 3.

The Bulls have arguably the best offense in the league if everyone is on, because of the variety of initiators and initiation points, especially if Coby White keeps up his recent run of play. There isn't a defense good enough to completely shut down every option. Given that, I don't count them out in any matchup. And given that I'm a Bulls fan, I'm going to confidently say we're winning the championship and no team can see us :yeshrug:.
 

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All the advanced metrics say DeMar is the best player and the eye test does as well
No the hell they dont:mjlol:

Zach is better in TS%, BPM, VORP, and OBPM on top of being more efficient

And cap on eye test, they are on the same level if ur just going off that, as I said demar just gets a weird favoring to dominate the ball in the 4th. But he is not better than Zach.
 
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I think the Nets if healthy are getting out of the East but Chicago has had a nice season so far and are a fun ass team to watch. If they can somehow avoid BKN and MIL then they can make the conference finals, but I don't think they'd beat either team.
 

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The Bulls have no playoff experience as a unit versus The Bucks that are battle tested at this point. It’s not even necessarily a matter of THAT good. There’s always going to be an element of muscle memory young teams typically can’t fukk with when it’s time to swings series

the suns had no playoff experience as a unit last year, and that didn't stop them.
 

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Bucks are the only team I fear

If we can get a solid 4 on buyout/trade market and PW back, we have a solid chance against Mill.

Kyrie is the X factor for BK bc Harden is very diminished and Durant isnt Thanos....

Miami can gum up the gears but their offense is pretty sus
 
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