You have to trade Mirotic specifically. Like ASAP. His stock has never been higher too, you can probably get decent return on the guy. If you can move Lopez also, that's good too. Let guys like Nwaba eat more into Holiday's minutes also. Dunn and LaVine are priorities, they shouldn't be jeopardized.
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Holiday's minutes going to be lessened when Lavine gets into the swing of things... and playing Nwaba MORE could actually result into better results. He and Dunn on the floor is a problem defensively so again...
Unless they plan on shutting down like 5 guys and running Pondexter, Felicio, Zipser and Grant out there to play 30+ minutes, then they not going to be losing like they were when they started out 3-20
LaVine isn't playing yet, they need to make these changes now. Holiday's better than Nwaba at this point, play Nwaba more and do so when Dunn isn't on the court then.Holiday's minutes going to be lessened when Lavine gets into the swing of things... and playing Nwaba MORE could actually result into better results. He and Dunn on the floor is a problem defensively so again...
Unless they plan on shutting down like 5 guys and running Pondexter, Felicio, Zipser and Grant out there to play 30+ minutes, then they not going to be losing like they were when they started out 3-20
If you trade Mirotic - as well as Lopez - things become very different for this Bulls team. They need to make some deals quickly.
Mirotic is looking like he's worth a 1st Round pick, crazy that he's only 26 years old. However, with how Portis has been playing, and with Lauri's production and load being lightened due to Mirotic's play... it's not even a given that moving those 2 has them out there bad like you think.
Lauri just gets more minutes, along with Portis... they become a better rebounding team because Lopez is shyt on the glass. It's harder than you think is all I'm saying... especially with players who are playing for pride and contracts
Mirotic is the spark plug that reignited this team, move him and there would be major effects. I'm not saying they immediately become the 3-20 team again they once were, but in a tightly packed race for the bottom every loss counts and they need to put themselves in position to get someone like Ayton instead of Miles Bridges.
Getting a mid/late first for Mirotic would be big as well, someone always falls on draft night and there are guys I like who could end up in that range like Anfernee Simmons, Mitchell Robinson, Landry Shamet, Hamidou Diallo, Wendell Carter, etc.
cornercommission2k12
so this were u dudes went
We all want the perfect storm, a young core that is developing well and a top 3 pick to add to themBulls fukkin up a perfectly good rebuild
Dunn is showing real promise, I've been a big LaVine supporter for a long term and he compliments Dunn well, Lauri has real promise and I was a fan of him as an offensive player on draft night, but now yall're fukkin up the draft stock because of Mirotic who has no future with the squad really
Imagine adding Ayton, Doncic, Bagley, Porter, or Bamba to this squad? Then if you suck again next year you can add Bol, Barrett, Reddish, or Zion
Bulls could be
Dunn
LaVine
Barrett
Markannen
Ayton
Guess you can kiss that goodbye
@Swagnificent wouldn't know what to do with himself
But at the same time, you can't tell nba players making millions and trying to fight for their nba lives many for their next contracts to lose on purpose, that works out well for the franchise , not necessarily for the player themselves, not to mention making room for a draft pick who could potentially take their roster spot next season. So if they finding a way to win, you gotta kind of commend them. We may not like it, but you gotta respect it.
A lot of the talent levels are pretty even, outside of maybe ayton and some say doncic. We may just get the 8th pick and draft next year's version of donovan Mitchell. That would still be a great asset to add to the core. I would only feel we were complete idiots if a guy on the level of lebron or duncan was waiting in the draft for us, outside of that, it's all just getting lucky, development, systems and coaching etc. We just have to scout right.
Nobody's saying you tell the players to lose. Coach needs to play with the rotations, and the GM needs to make some trades. Obviously the players should be playing their hardest, you can tank better than this regardless of that fact.
There's a top tier of talent in this draft with Doncic, Ayton, Bagley, Young, Porter, Bamba, etc. and then there's clearly a lower tier with the two Bridges, Robert Williams, Sexton, Knox, etc.
The Bulls need to make sure they're in that top tier.
cornercommission2k12
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Again we all want the perfect storm, but a 1st rd pick is not just out there waiting for us, we have been trying to trade niko since last season, no team budged on even a late 1st.
I think my front office are def idiots, but this I can't blame them for. Quite honestly it looks like they made a trade that benefited both sides, both Minnesota and ourselves, unlike the taj mcdermott trade that we got nothing out of.
We have to be careful in taking in salary and we don't have a lot of sweetners to move guys either. We all want the perfect deals, they just might not be there. And history shows no franchise is willing to just help garpax out.
Mirotic is playing at a completely different level right now compared to last season, perfect trade or not a trade has to be made not just for the sake of acquiring more picks, but for protecting your own. Ayton and Bridges are entirely different stratospheres of talent.
The new lottery rules benefit the bulls a lot. They can keep playing their young guys, win a few games and still end up in a good position. Brooklyn should be better when DLo comes back, them and the lakers don’t have picks to tank for so they’ll be trying to win as much as possible
Charlotte can also overtake the bulls in the standings
Really Chicago just needs a top 5 pick
Charlotte can also overtake the bulls in the standings
Really Chicago just needs a top 5 pick
cornercommission2k12
so this were u dudes went
Thing is, you could fire sale and still not land the 1st pick to draft ayton, then what do you have? Especially considering it's about 8 other teams gunning for the same spots.
And niko has had several instances where he has played on this level. Issue is, he is inconsistent and on a contract year. Plus niko has some veto power based on how his deal was set up. So the teams niko would say yes to, they wouldn't be in that kind of urgency to part with a 1st rd pick for him, and the teams that possibly could part with a 1st rd pick, niko would likely say no to.
Hoiberg is on thin ice in chicago, losing really not in his best interest, not only for his tenure in chicago, but to get a opportunity with any other nba franchise, which at this time, if fred was fired tomorrow, he likely wouldn't get a phone call from any nba team.
It's not Ayton or bust, he's an example of the talent hanging around. You've put yourself in position for Doncic, Bamba, Porter Jr., etc. as well. The Hoiberg situation is just an example of how you guys then are failing at your own tank with an insubordinate coach lacking security.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Niko has a Team Option on his contract? A team that trades for him can have him next year for a reasonably low price as well.
cornercommission2k12
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Yea I think if we pick up his team option we can take away his veto power.
But it seems we hung up on 1st rd picks for him, and as it stands don't seem like that is out there right now.
Quintessential caveman post .... “I don’t give a fukk if he goes 6-20 shoots his team out of the game ... he my point gawwwd”
Moron ass nikka talking about Dunn “closing teams out” when they were 2-17 under his leadership until Mirotic came back and saved their season .....
2-17 ..... but he Gary Payton
Moron ass nikka talking about “playmaking” yet the teams asst percentage increases when he’s OFF the court
Moron ass nikka talking about “increased his scoring” yet the teams offensive rating drops from 104 to 102 when his brick laying ass is on the floor
You know ...I’m about to start purging you low information useless ass posters around here ....too many of you dumbasses clogging up the bandwidth ...shyt is pathetic
