I mean based on Spence's track record I wouldn't call him a gym hero
. But here's a couple vids 
Bud would wash Floyd at any weight....
- Thread starter TheNig
- Start date
I mean based on Spence's track record I wouldn't call him a gym hero
. But here's a couple vids 
Bud is my guy. I was the first stan here. but no. Floyd at 130 and maybe 135 too much. Bud could beat him at 147 though. 130? 
aint too many in history fukkin with Floyd down there. not even Duran or Sweet Pea. and those are my guys too.
aint too many in history fukkin with Floyd down there. not even Duran or Sweet Pea. and those are my guys too.
dont go by sparring though. especially since Floyd likely was not if full fighting condition. stylistically at 147 I take Bud to beat Floyd than Truth.
Nah for sure, sparring ain't the real thing. But still, Bud is a boxer and he's not gonna outbox Floyd over 12 imo. And if Mosley couldn't even drop him with his best shot, Bud ain't dropping Floyd. And he's not overwhelming him on volume. I got Floyd taking a clear decision.
Spence on the other hand is a bully in the ring and those are the only types to have any kind of real success against Floyd. Spence ain't as dirty and wild as Maidana, but he could pressure Floyd all night similar to how Cotto did, and more than likely do a way better job than Cotto too. I honestly think he could hurt Floyd too, it'd be a hell of a fight.
And Bud is my guy too but I'm just being real. Don't forget he was getting pieced up and rocked early by Gamboa, and was even down on the cards to Thomas Dulorme before landing the KO punch. He's nice but he still hasn't showed me he woulda been nice enough to beat Floyd. If he's very impressive against either Thurman or Spence though I might reconsider.
good analysis. everyone always brings up Gamboa but at lower weight Gamboa is fast as shyt with real amateur pedigree. much faster than Floyd at WW. now at 130, Floyd was a different animal. not that pot-shot artist he became at higher weights. Floyd was offensive machine. he was much more cautious at higher weights. dont forget, Chop Chop hurt Floyd BAD at 140, worse than Gamboa did Bud. if that was Bud that rocked him, he'd been done. Bud starts slow, sort of like Floyd because he likes to figure out what the opponent has.
Spence aggressive bullying style I feel plays right in to Floyd's style. Floyd likes that shyt. I dont think he likes fighting classic boxers or slicker fighters as much as he likes guys that come forward hard.
the interesting thing about Floyd, as great as he was even up to 40 years of age is that he was much better offensively each class you go down in weight. he was really defensive at 147 and didnt throw many punches at all. He was an exciting fighter at 140, even more at 135, even more at 130.
True, you got a point with Corley. And Zab did give Floyd some trouble early too, Crawford's slickness could definitely be a problem. Zab was arguably faster than Floyd tho, Crawford definitely ain't. And he's not defensively as nice as Floyd either, which I why I think Floyd would figure him out eventually and get a clean decision. I just don't see this dude getting outboxed. And even if he does get hurt at some point, the man got a chin. Corley, Mosley, Maidana, Cotto, none of those dudes managed to put him down, Crawford gotta be something real special to pull that off and I haven't seen enough of him at 147 to know if he is or isn't.
I still lean towards Errol being the tougher fight just because I think he has the footwork and the skill to find Floyd, and he goes to the body foreal. He's not just head hunting like most of these dudes who end up hitting shoulders and arms all night. But if he can't cut the ring off on Floyd then yeah he'd definitely get pot-shotted all night.
Honestly, I really wanna see some combo of Spence Crawford and Thurman actually get in the ring before I really start saying any of them could see Floyd. If Crawford ends up dancing on Spence all night then we know Spence probably wouldn't have had enough for Floyd, but if Spence eventually ends up walking Crawford down then maybe he'd make it interesting with Floyd. And if Thurman manages to outbox either one of them or even keep it to a close decision then I highly doubt they could hang with Floyd. Once the guys at the top actually start fighting each other then we'll really see who's foreal.
seemorecizzy
Superstar
yeah floyds a small dude to begin with
plus as he went up, he got older, and his hands got more and more fukked up
floyd was facing 12-15 weight disadvantages damn near every fight at welterweight and up
pretty crazy
Thatrogueassdiaz
We're on the blood path now
You got it reverse. He hates being stalked, loves pure boxers. He likes the chess match. A fight that makes him work more always takes him out of his comfort zone.
Hearns is top 20 of all time at worse. At 147, he damn near unbeatableThe way Hearns is being described in here, you'd think nikkas is talking about some random ass tall boxing nikka and not a top 50 all time great.
Lol
And as for Hearns..if anyone can beat Floyd, its him. Floyd cant pot shot him at will without being hunted down on the ropes and in the middle.
Last edited:
Look at when he fought Augustus. Midway through the fight he said "I don't know what to do". And even after he won the fight, he said "I never want to see him again".
He threw every punch he had at him and Augustus was literally like
Had him bloody and swollen, all busted up, because he just kept coming and throwing.
Crawford aint beating floyd in anything, ping pong, pool, mario kart, nuffin