Bud would beat Spence Imo

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In the early rounds of the Garcia fight, Spence showed that he is suspectiable to counters and Garcia cracked him a few tmes, but Garcia didn't have the volume or the stamina and faded as the fight went on.

Bud is far superior in ring IQ and the technical aspects than Garcia. I see Spence winning the early rounds with his volume and high connect rate as Bud feels him out. Then I see Bud picking up on his patterns and winning the middle rounds. Spence faded in the later rounds against Garcia and Bud usually gets better as the fight goes on. I see Bud stopping him in the later rounds or winning by UD.
You say that and have apparently missed how Crawford got popped by one legged Benavidez with straight rights for rounds on end. How he got manhandled by this mean machine character. Its just funny.

Spence faded for the first time ever...after 14 months and a life altering car accident. The narratives are comical..lol
 

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Bud hurts Spence and probably stops him if Spence gasses against him.
I rewatched Spence vs. Brook recently and Brook was putting hands on that boy and backing him up with shots LATE in the fight.
That's 3 fights now I've seen in the last 3 yrs where Spence got pushed back and even got on his bike due to shots landing.
People here act like Spence be on some terminator shyt but he really don't. He gets landed on, he gets hurt/bothered, he backs up and gets on his bike due to power. Vs Brook and Porter he got pinned on the ropes and went into shell mode several times which is what ppl claim he'd do to Bud :unimpressed:
He outworks ppl which is an attribute surely, but he don't just be walking thru people the way some hype it up as
Gets hurt? Lol. He beat the brakes off Brook after like round 8...brook tried to fight back. He did push back but he still got beat up and was forced to quit.
 

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I don't want to hear shyt about Bud vs these pbc guys because he could have BEEN fought them instead of a washed, 1 eyed Brook and the job squad of Postol/Indongo/Kavalijfsdfsdfsd ass nikkas he been doing. If he felt the same way you did he would have went out there and done it.
 

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Kell Brook had Bud's faced lumped up after 3 rds. Spence will rearrange dude if Bud doesn't succeed in getting Spence out of there early. His best chance is to fight Spence now before he is all of the way back.
Didn’t brook cut bud too

brook didn’t test that face .. he was hit flush in the face both sides might of rattled

bud took a easy fight when he should have been fought Danny
 

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Okay and explain Bud getting hurt and dropped by folks that apply less pressure and possess less power than Spence?

Explain Spence getting on his bike against Porter power :mjtf:. Had that boy dazed and confused with that left hook
Imagine going 11 rounds with damaged goods Brook less than a year after major injury and surgery. Were the wounds even healed yet
Them slow ass looping shots, that boy going to sleep against Bud. How many fights we done seen this dude literally dipping his head and swinging wildly in exchanges.

I'm starting to wonder if Thurman speed and movement could give Spence major problems. That shyt will be the tour de france the way both them would be on they bikes
 

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bud got buzzed by gamboa. he does not have a good resume at welterweight, and he gets hit a lot for a relatively smallish p4p fighter.

i cant see this as a 50/50. i see it as more like 60/40 in favor of spence.

based on evidence, spence has the advantage in most areas except offensive creativity. bud mixes his punches up better and hits people with shots they dont see. spence throws the same punches at you and you see most of them, this means KO'ing elite fighters is more difficult for him, but his size and strength means it doesnt matter because in a contest of attrition, he has more durability than anybody he is going to fight at 147lb, maybe even at 154lb so he can just keep punching for 12 rounds and win.

i see spence winning on points. if bud wins, it has to be by KO
 

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So if you and I know this you think Bud doesn't? All the top welters were where?


Arum did the same to Oscar and what happened?

He did the same to Floyd and what happened?

He did the same to Pacman and what happened?


Nah you can't go one way then do the woulda, coulda, shoulda shyt :camby: he chose his bed and isn't choosing to leave like those other guys did.


Every time you dudes say something about Bud fighting other PBC dudes, I laugh. You dudes always say why not fight Porter or Thurman, etc. instead of asking why Spence doesn't fight Crawford? He called Spence out, numerous times, and has asked to fight him. Instead of bringing up other PBC dudes, ask Spence why he hasn't fought Crawford.

And Spence one of my favorite fighters too but you nikkas need to stop the B.S.
 

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Every time you dudes say something about Bud fighting other PBC dudes, I laugh. You dudes always say why not fight Porter or Thurman, etc. instead of asking why Spence doesn't fight Crawford? He called Spence out, numerous times, and has asked to fight him. Instead of bringing up other PBC dudes, ask Spence why he hasn't fought Crawford.

And Spence one of my favorite fighters too but you nikkas need to stop the B.S.
He didn’t call out no numerous of times his master avoids Spence questions even when they were faced to face n bet the million ...n the side bet about the coaches goin at it

Bud talk that shyt when arum not around .. but when arum is there he always:francis:
Literally last fight arum fixed his dry dolphin face ass to say bud would fight Spence n Garcia back to back

it’s a numbers game n arum is not gone match what Spence n al bringin to the table .. what champion n p4p fight on basic ass espn

bud couldn’t sell out Kroger’s

funny before bud top rank could put asses to seats now smh
 

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Every time you dudes say something about Bud fighting other PBC dudes, I laugh. You dudes always say why not fight Porter or Thurman, etc. instead of asking why Spence doesn't fight Crawford? He called Spence out, numerous times, and has asked to fight him. Instead of bringing up other PBC dudes, ask Spence why he hasn't fought Crawford.

And Spence one of my favorite fighters too but you nikkas need to stop the B.S.

Bud and his stans have way more smoke for Spence than they do for Arum. Lied to him about getting the Pac fight to get him to re-sign, never happened, threw him in there with a bunch of cats who name you can't spell, go on record saying he's upside down on his investment.....and yet the onus to get off your ass and make something shake is on Spence?!?!?! Y'all not tired of the "fighter X is scared to fight Top Rank's boogeyman" hustle Arum keep running on y'all?
 

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Bud and his stans have way more smoke for Spence than they do for Arum. Lied to him about getting the Pac fight to get him to re-sign, never happened, threw him in there with a bunch of cats who name you can't spell, go on record saying he's upside down on his investment.....and yet the onus to get off your ass and make something shake is on Spence?!?!?! Y'all not tired of the "fighter X is scared to fight Top Rank's boogeyman" hustle Arum keep running on y'all?

Bob been running that same game on these simple negroes for 50 years now the narratives are always identical, the only thing that changes is which fighter is being 'ducked' this time. Insult to my intelligence.
 

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Explain Spence getting on his bike against Porter power :mjtf:. Had that boy dazed and confused with that left hook
Imagine going 11 rounds with damaged goods Brook less than a year after major injury and surgery. Were the wounds even healed yet
Them slow ass looping shots, that boy going to sleep against Bud. How many fights we done seen this dude literally dipping his head and swinging wildly in exchanges.

I'm starting to wonder if Thurman speed and movement could give Spence major problems. That shyt will be the tour de france the way both them would be on they bikes

When was this:mjlol:

#1 Spence was not scared of Porter and took the fight first off.

#2 breh fought and beat Porter at his own game.

#3 Spence will cut the ring off on Thurman easier than Lopez did and will not let breh off of the hook like Lopez did. Thurman's advantage is that he starts off fast. He will beat up too/lined up If he fails in trying to bomb Spence out early.
 

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You see it. :unimpressed:

Bud man fans really act like nikkas don't want to see Spence/Crawford, but at the same time we just know how Bob Arum operates, he only matches his top fighters up in cross promotional fights when he cashes them out, until he is ready to cash them out there are always a million and one reasons why their fighter is being ducked or why their fighter should only fight one specific fighter, who usually also happens to be the one who he can make the most money off of. He has a whole documented history of doing this and nikkas still blame everybody BUT Bob when he is the reason we don't get these fights when we want them.
 
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If Spence fights Pacquaio before Bud, Bud has zero chance against Spence, because he would have been in there with an elite southpaw which is rare for two high level southpaws to face each other, Bud switching to southpaw has been X factor for him like in the brook fight and the data gather from the fight will elevate him, Spence clearing out the division has given him experience against different types of opponents

When has Danny ever retreated in a fight, nikka was getting back desperately trying to stay off the ropes, nobody has ever been able to get danny in that position or cause the damage, I mean Danny was looking discourage a lot of times during the fight, and he he put damage on him and danny normally does take a lot of damage

Spence got the iron chin, when Bud see spence can take his punches better than he anticipates he might get discouraged, his best chin to win is to fight Spence next, because if Spence get in there with Pacquaio first, they gonna have a rock solid game plan for Crawford, Derrick James is the superior coach to Bomac, and is underrated with his strategies even though spence does get cocky and deviates from the gameplan
 

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Bud man fans really act like nikkas don't want to see Spence/Crawford, but at the same time we just know how Bob Arum operates, he only matches his top fighters up in cross promotional fights when he cashes them out, until he is ready to cash them out there are always a million and one reasons why their fighter is being ducked or why their fighter should only fight one specific fighter, who usually also happens to be the one who he can make the most money off of. He has a whole documented history of doing this and nikkas still blame everybody BUT Bob when he is the reason we don't get these fights when we want them.

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