Brian Windhorst: Some NBA players are frustrated with Kawhi Leonard getting too much love

[Blade]

 

[Hollywood Co]

Kawhi is a beast and may leapfrog most of these supposed better players by the end of the season.

 

[Rekkapryde]

Kawhi is a beast and may leapfrog most of these supposed better players by the end of the season.

Already has

 

[duckbutta]

Already has

Only miami vacation needle fresh out the buttocks lebron is better...

 

[Kang Deezy]

That does NOT make him a top 5 offensive player. I don't know how you're parameterizing offensive impact/skillsets, but I can assure you it's not done in that manner. Especially considering that this is Kawhi's first season where he's putting up those type of scoring #s. Players like Curry, Harden, Westbrook, LeBron, AD, Boogie etc etc have done it for longer and on higher volume. And that's before we get into players like Curry, Westbrook, LeBron, CP3, Lowry etc etc who can actually run an elite offense.

When he's been strictly the #1 a/b option in the playoffs he's failed to have any elite impact on offense in any series.

Draymond has been the best defender for two years running, but that's neither here nor there. He won the Finals MVP because he limited the best player in the world while putting up mid-level offensive #s, not because he had an all-time great Finals performance. I don't know why you're using his Finals MVP/ring as if it has any relevance to this discussion, he was never a dominant player at that time.

In no specific order:

KD (top 3)
Curry (top 3)
LeBron (top 3)
AD
Westbrook
Cousins
Kawhi
Harden
Butler
Giannis

A few of those are interchangeable (M.Gasol, Kyrie, Lowry, Wall, PG etc etc to name a few).

I would take kawhi over ad fraudbook or cousins anyday

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Saying Kawhi doesn't have the resume to be in the top 3-5 but what exactly has Boogie Cousins, Butler, Giannis, and AD done resume wise to be in the top 10 if he wants to use that logic? nikkaz is weird when it comes to Kawhi on this board.

Did you even bother to read my post properly?

The first point I contested was that Kawhi isn't a top-3 player, and the second part was he wasn't a top-5 offensive player. You're all over the place talking about top 3-5 and then talking about top-10. I then listed my top-10 players overall (in no specific order) and I named Kawhi -

In no specific order:

KD (top 3)
Curry (top 3)
LeBron (top 3)
AD
Westbrook
Cousins
Kawhi
Harden
Butler
Giannis

A few of those are interchangeable (M.Gasol, Kyrie, Lowry, Wall, PG etc etc to name a few).

And stop it with this "nikkaz is weird when it comes to Kawhi on this board" when I was one of, if not the first poster on this board to hype up Kawhi's ability. I was talking about how great he could become on defense long before anybody else did. I've already told you this before, so I don't see why you're acting brand new.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

You said his resume not good enough for him to be top 3 but when i mention what he's done you say your not sure why I'm bringing his accomplishments up

Resume equaling the #s he's put up and the impact he's had. This is the first season he's putting up elite numbers. He wasn't a dominant player when he won a ring/Finals MVP. You're telling me he has a better resume and has shown to have more impact on the game for longer than either LeBron, Durant and Curry - players who're still at the top of their games?

You can keep him out your top 5 if you want to,but he's in mine fasho

He's not a top-5 offensive player. Period. If you wanna be wrong that's on you.

 

[Reggie]

If anyone is saying anything negative about Kawhi it's just straight up hate and wanting to be in his situation if anything. Kawhi is the prime example why that bullshyt about being a finished product by time you are 21/22 is bullshyt. He's improved every year that he has been in the league and went from a 3 and D player to an all around superstar capable of being the best player on a good team. Nothing but props for that man if anything.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

My point exactly lol nikkas saying AD Boogie Giannis like how??!! Lmao yea they great individual talent but it's more to it when ranking these guys

You clearly can't even follow your own discussion properly -

In no specific order:

KD (top 3)
Curry (top 3)
LeBron (top 3)
AD
Westbrook
Cousins
Kawhi
Harden
Butler
Giannis

A few of those are interchangeable (M.Gasol, Kyrie, Lowry, Wall, PG etc etc to name a few).

Can you clearly not see me listing Kawhi's name in the top-10 overall players?

I mentioned Boogie and AD being better offensive players because they've put up better numbers as the #1 options over longer periods of time. That is a FACT. You don't become a top-5 offensive player because you start putting up #s (that aren't even better than others) in one season. If he can keep this up and translate it over to the postseason and in the following seasons, we can revisit that discussion. But as of now he isn't a top-5 offensive player.

All Kawhi needed to do was have his offensive game catch up with his defensive game and it was a wrap and he's done that.

Only dudes rated higher than Kawhi is Lebron and KD nobody else has a valid reason to be rated higher than Kawhi. NOBODY

I still see you don't know what you're talking about @FlashGordon22.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Already has

We have to see what he does in the postseason, he's been underwhelming as the #1 a/b option for the Spurs. I don't know why dudes keep ignoring this.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

nikkas in here crazy

This nikka Kawhi is back to back bear defender in the world

Got the spurs the second best record in the league

And averaging 25 a night on:

50% shooting from the field
41% from 3
90% from the line

The fukk is wrong wit em???

That doesn't make him a top-3 player and that doesn't make him a top-5 offensive player. The fukk is wrong with you?

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

The coli sure does have a problem supporting a black man with cornrows and tattoos

I wonder why

Coli didn't have any problem calling Steph the greatest shooter ever during his 50 40 90 season

Sure is quiet about Kawhi doing the same right now though

It aint really hard to spell but some posters on here butcher his name every single time

Except Kawhi isn't doing the same. How dishonest can you be?

Curry put up 30 ppg on 20 shots per game with a 67 TS%, taking 11 three-point shots a game and completing them at 45% for an entire season
Kawhi is putting up 25 ppg on 17 shots per game with a 61 TS%, taking 5 three-point shots a game and completing them at 41% for an entire season

How the hell you came to the conclusion Kawhi is doing the same, I don't know. Y'all Spurs fans better hope Kawhi balls out in the playoffs, and not under-perform like he did in the last postseason.

 

[AlbertPullhoez]

I see that hating ass bytch @Gil Scott-Heroin tagged me

fukk that fakkit and his rambling and nitpicking dissertations. p*ssy juice in his veins having ass nikka

*Waits for this fukk nikka to neg and start e-thugging in my inbox*

I hope that nikka dies

 

[malbaker86]

Did you even bother to read my post properly?

The first point I contested was that Kawhi isn't a top-3 player, and the second part was he wasn't a top-5 offensive player. You're all over the place talking about top 3-5 and then talking about top-10. I then listed my top-10 players overall (in no specific order) and I named Kawhi -


And stop it with this "nikkaz is weird when it comes to Kawhi on this board" when I was one of, if not the first poster on this board to hype up Kawhi's ability. I was talking about how great he could become on defense long before anybody else did. I've already told you this before, so I don't see why you're acting brand new.

we've already been through this. you talk slick about Kawhi just about any chance you get when somebody gives him props. It always comes with a "yea but" with you.

and the issue I have with you is bruh, don't come at me like i'm so child. i ain't got no issues with you and your opinions no matter if we agree or disagree but when you talk greezy and slick on some "i don't see why you acting brand new" like i'm so female or something, then that's where I gotta pump your breaks. that's the issues nikkaz have with you and why most of the board don't fukk with you, you don't know how to address people when you disagree with them and that's why people come at your neck.

With you it's never a "I feel you but I disagree" it's always "see, that's where YOU'RE wrong" or a "you don't know what you're talking about". fukk outta here with that shyt bruh.

Your last post in this thread is classic example of what i'm talking about

 

[malbaker86]

I see that hating ass bytch @Gil Scott-Heroin tagged me

fukk that fakkit and his rambling and nitpicking dissertations. p*ssy juice in his veins having ass nikka

*Waits for this fukk nikka to neg and start e-thugging in my inbox*

I hope that nikka dies

I don't hope he dies cause hella extreme, but as I spoke to in my last post, nikka needs to learn how to address and engage with people when he don't agree with em instead going on emotional rants and talking slick. All he has to do is say some shyt like "I get you but the reason why I don't think...blah blah blah blah" and posters would take em more seriously. All that "do you even watch basketball" school girl shyt he be doing is for the birds and I even fukk with his post.