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She bodied seder and cenk at the time and now proven right , they lied and said mcarthy would be speaker with a dem controlled house at the time, meantime he can’t even be speaker now under republican control LmAo they got proven wrong and stlll can’t admit it

Any excuse for why democrats never do shyt
She's incorrect

The concessions extracted aren't what she'd even want, on top of that, republicans aren't hinging this on ANY vote. It's just sheer resentment for McCarthy. Thats it.

Plus, voters dont like this shyt. Hating democrats so much that you think it's appealing to swing voters means you lost the plot.
 

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She has some points about Dems not being ballsy enough to do this type of obstruction because the progressives would get killed by the media and that fear is what holds a lot of the progressives back but yet you see these same republicans doing the same type of obstruction and actually getting some good press in the media or outright weathering the negative coverage because at the end of the day they are fundraising off this.
Progressive Dems cannot fundraise off obstructionism it isn't a part of their ideology

This is mostly because the corporate media is center right and anything against progressive leftists principles will be attacked.
Right now conservative media is divided on this issue for the most part because Mccarthy is so unpopular

Progressives would be summarily shouted down though because Nancy Pelosi is popular and any move against her like this or other dems would be framed as anti democrat straight up.

Conservatives main issue is you can't call these people anti republican while also using the same talking points as them.
 

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She has some points about Dems not being ballsy enough to do this type of obstruction because the progressives would get killed by the media and that fear is what holds a lot of the progressives back but yet you see these same republicans doing the same type of obstruction and actually getting some good press in the media or outright weathering the negative coverage because at the end of the day they are fundraising off this.
Progressive Dems cannot fundraise off obstructionism it isn't a part of their ideology

This is mostly because the corporate media is center right and anything against progressive leftists principles will be attacked.
Right now conservative media is divided on this issue for the most part because Mccarthy is so unpopular

Progressives would be summarily shouted down though because Nancy Pelosi is popular and any move against her like this or other dems would be framed as anti democrat straight up.

Conservatives main issue is you can't call these people anti republican while also using the same talking points as them.
Force the vote was used to push a policy that was half baked that most people don’t even Want and would hurt its viability in the long run. They only adopt the most unrealistic stance to troll democrats on every issue. Defund the police; Abolish ICE; close prisons; single payer; let Russia and China do what they want etc.
 

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David Dayen too


even Ro Khanna was fed up with her

Look, republicans are NOT building towards anything. You can't use that tactic to blow shyt up when you're trying to reach a concensus to BUILD shyt

This is why I hate them even pushing single payer way past universal coverage or more incremental gains.

she still bytches about not getting $2000 checks but people still got $1400! Thats 70% of the original ask! :mindblown:

This is why I don't respect this shyt in the slightest. They always swing for the maximalist position as if that means they're more progressive than anyone else as a pure branding exercise. Theres no realism or strategy here other than complaining the literal thing you didn't want didn't thappen

 

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She has some points about Dems not being ballsy enough to do this type of obstruction because the progressives would get killed by the media and that fear is what holds a lot of the progressives back but yet you see these same republicans doing the same type of obstruction and actually getting some good press in the media or outright weathering the negative coverage because at the end of the day they are fundraising off this.
Progressive Dems cannot fundraise off obstructionism it isn't a part of their ideology

This is mostly because the corporate media is center right and anything against progressive leftists principles will be attacked.
Right now conservative media is divided on this issue for the most part because Mccarthy is so unpopular

Progressives would be summarily shouted down though because Nancy Pelosi is popular and any move against her like this or other dems would be framed as anti democrat straight up.

Conservatives main issue is you can't call these people anti republican while also using the same talking points as them.
This is revisionist history.

Pelosi was always going to become the speaker.

the criticism around force the vote centered on the fact that we KNEW that even if it passed the house it was going to DIE in the senate.

Back in 2020 there were important pieces of legislation that needed to be passed and wasting time doing this could have derailed Bidens agenda altogether.

Republicans currently aren’t asking for any concessions, they’re just asking for power. They have no agenda to get through.
 

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This is revisionist history.

Pelosi was always going to become the speaker.

the criticism around force the vote centered on the fact that we KNEW that even if it passed the house it was going to DIE in the senate.

Back in 2020 there were important pieces of legislation that needed to be passed and wasting time doing this could have derailed Bidens agenda altogether.

Republicans currently aren’t asking for any concessions, they’re just asking for power. They have no agenda to get through.
FTV was about ONE law they wanted to have a messaging vote on.

What republicans are doing is literally a whole host of shyt.

They cant say this was about M4A then change what the "ask" was :dead:
 

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FTV was about ONE law they wanted to have a messaging vote on.

What republicans are doing is literally a whole host of shyt.

They cant say this was about M4A then change what the "ask" was :dead:
It’s crazy to attempt to relitigate it considering what we know now about Sinema and Manchin.

But maybe they’re pulling the veil back and being honest that it was more of an attempted power grab by outside pundits than it was about actually moving policy.
 

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It’s crazy to attempt to relitigate it considering what we know now about Sinema and Manchin.

But maybe they’re pulling the veil back and being honest that it was more of an attempted power grab by outside pundits than it was about actually moving policy.
this is what I keep saying

its just a branding exercise in being "more left"

They legit mocked Warren for doing their own math homework on M4A instead of just getting people to say the magic words on a half assed plan that bernie himself didn't even write out.

They keep doing this shyt by taking the max position then not even acknowledging the minor victories along the way.

She's a fukking troll as well is everyone else on the contrarian left.

You don't blow shyt up when you're trying to BUILD.
 
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