Brexit Is Teaching Britain A Lesson In Humility; Boris Johnson finalizes EU Exit Deal!

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f'd up their economy so bad they're demanding the disabled "do thier duty" or face more benefit cuts


Disabled people must work from home to do ‘their duty’, says UK minister​

People with mobility and mental health problems should work from home or lose benefits under new policy

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Disabled people must work from home to do ‘their duty’, says UK minister

People with mobility and mental health problems should work from home or lose benefits under new policy
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Trump and his administrations are/were absolute monsters but the damage will be a blip on the radar compared to the UK who are truly dealing with something far worse with a longer horizon and that truly has no end in sight. I don't know how the people there allow it.
 
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88m3 said:
f'd up their economy so bad they're demanding the disabled "do thier duty" or face more benefit cuts


Disabled people must work from home to do ‘their duty’, says UK minister​

People with mobility and mental health problems should work from home or lose benefits under new policy

www.theguardian.com

Disabled people must work from home to do ‘their duty’, says UK minister

People with mobility and mental health problems should work from home or lose benefits under new policy
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com


Trump and his administrations are/were absolute monsters but the damage will be a blip on the radar compared to the UK who are truly dealing with something far worse with a longer horizon and that truly has no end in sight. I don't know how the people there allow it.
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Folks aren't humble enough to day we made a mistake.


This is what happens when you are manipulated by the rich with an agenda
 
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jj23 said:
Folks aren't humble enough to day we made a mistake.


This is what happens when you are manipulated by the rich with an agenda
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I am not super familiar with British political sentiments and I wouldn't say ya'll are docile. But I sometimes wonder if your elites aren't that scared of you because UK hasn't really had a huge social rupture since almost the the Civil War and Cromwell, right? At least on the continent they fear the masses being up to living that life.
 
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bnew said:
Reclaim MP Andrew Bridgen argued the study demonstrated evidence of “indoctrination of younger people”, pointing to the fact the “older and wiser” in our society tended to vote Leave.

The Brexiteer told Express.co.uk: “This like so much in the legacy media is what they would like to be true and what they want you to believe.

“It may be true that people who are more ‘educated’ had a propensity to vote Remain at the referendum, but that is more down to indoctrination than any measure of intelligence.
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“It is a fact that people of high intelligence ‘free and critical thinkers’ are often the ones who challenge the ‘official narrative’.

“It’s encouraging that in 2016 such individuals were still in the majority slightly. I hope given the many false narratives pushed to the public since the referendum, this remains the case today.

“The older and wiser in our society tended to vote to leave the younger and more indoctrinated tended to vote to remain.

“When the current narratives unravel as they shortly will, it will be interesting who is actually regarded as the wiser and more educated.” :mjlol:

Speaking about the study on GB News, comedian Leo Kearse said: “It’s like what like the Remain campaign did saying, ‘Oh the car production will drop by point eight percent over seven years if you take it to the third quarter’.

“Nobody cares, brainiac! I don't want some Belgian nerd telling me what to do.” :aicmon:
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This is hilarious. :heh:

Andrew Bridgen...who even is that? Oh right, someone expelled from the Conservative Party, which I think says it all. I don't even know that party (though let's see if it lasts longer than The Independent Group lol.)
 
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Speaking of unravelling narratives...

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...th-even-less-than-previously-thought-obr-says

The UK’s flagship trans-Pacific trade deal, which was presented as a cornerstone of post-Brexit “global Britain”, will deliver even less benefit to the economy than the tiny uplift that was previously predicted, according to the Office for Budget Responsibility.

In a report accompanying last week’s autumn statement, the OBR said the UK’s entry into the Comprehensive and Progressive Agreement for Trans-Pacific Partnership (CPTPP) would add just 0.04% to GDP in the “long run”, which it defines as after 15 years of membership.


The OBR said two separate bilateral deals between the UK and Australia and New Zealand, also hailed as landmark trade agreements post-Brexit, “might increase the level of real GDP by a combined 0.1% by 2035”.

The tiny predicted benefits from these trade deals contrast with the OBR’s own calculation that the UK economy will be 4% smaller than if we had stayed in the EU. Previous estimates by the government of the benefits of entry into the CPTPP have suggested a positive economic effect of between 0.08% and 1% of GDP.

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The OBR has estimated that Brexit will wipe about £100bn from the UK economy.
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At an event in Brussels on Tuesday night, von der Leyen admitted that European leaders had “goofed up” over the departure of Britain from the bloc and suggested the younger generation could “fix” it.

Asked if the UK could ever rejoin the EU, she replied: “I must say, I keep telling my children, ‘you have to fix it, we goofed it up, you have to fix it’. So I think here too, the direction of travel – my personal opinion – is clear.”

However, Sunak’s official spokesperson, replied that the British prime minister did not believe that Brexit was in peril. He told reporters at Westminster: “It’s through our Brexit freedoms that we are, right now, considering how to further strengthen our migration system..."
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She was practically leaving the door wide open!
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Has Brexit been a failure? A majority of Brits think so

A new opinion poll has found that most British voters see leaving the EU as a huge failure for the country, especially around broken promises on NHS funding.
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Has Brexit been a failure? A majority of Brits think so​

Then-Prime Minister Boris Johnson addresses his supporters prior to boarding his General Election campaign trail bus in Manchester, England in 2019

By Saskia O'Donoghue

Published on 31/12/2023 - 16:08

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A new opinion poll has found that most British voters see leaving the EU as a huge failure for the country, especially around broken promises on NHS funding.

A significant majority of British people believe the country’s decision to leave the European Union has been bad for the UK.

They also believe Brexit has driven up prices in shops, as well as thwarting government attempts to control immigration and damaging the economy.

That’s according to a poll by insight research agency Opinium, undertaken to mark the third anniversary of the UK leaving the EU single market and customs union.

The survey asked more than 2,000 UK voters if they believe Brexit has benefited them or the country.

In a new headache for Rishi Sunak’s much-maligned government, results show starkly low numbers who agree with that scenario.

Just one in 10 people surveyed say leaving the EU has helped their personal financial situation. Another 35% say it has been bad for their finances.

Only 9% of respondents said they believed Brexit has been good for the NHS - in contrast, 47% answered it has had a negative impact on the health service.

Sunak has long backed Brexit and claimed it would provide an economic boost for the UK.

Just 7% of people think it has helped keep prices low in UK shops, while 63% believe it’s been a significant factor in both the ongoing cost of living crisis and in fuelling inflation.

The findings come seven and a half years on from the divisive referendum, which remains a controversial issue in the country.

Anti-Brexit protester Steve Bray demonstrates on the edge of Parliament Square across the street from the Houses of Parliament, in London in 2021

Anti-Brexit protester Steve Bray demonstrates on the edge of Parliament Square across the street from the Houses of Parliament, in London in 2021AP Photo/Matt Dunham


Overall, just 22% of voters said they believe leaving the bloc has been good for the UK in general.

The Vote Leave campaign led by former Prime Minister Boris Johnson promised that Brexit would boost the economy and trade while ‘taking back control’ of the UK’s borders.

Controversially, it also claimed that leaving the EU would bring back £350 million (about €403m) each week into the NHS. This money has not materialised.

Experts now say that aspects touted as benefits of leaving the EU have mostly failed and public perception has shifted from positivity to an overwhelming lack of support for Brexit.

Political pundits say that Brexiteeers’ promise that leaving the EU’s customs union and single market would be the start of a new, profitable global trade system.

Fifteen per cent of respondents in the poll 15% say the choice to leave the bloc has been good in terms of the ability of UK firms to import goods from outside the EU.
 
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Brexit Erased £140 Billion From UK Economy, London Mayor to Say

London Mayor Sadiq Khan on Thursday will blame Brexit for costing the UK economy £140 billion ($178 billion), calling on the government to “urgently” rebuild relations with the European Union to stem the decline.
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Brexit Cost the UK Economy £140 Billion, London Mayor Says​


Study suggests UK has 2 million fewer jobs due to EU divorce

Sadiq Khan says ‘mature approach’ needed to forge closer ties


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London Mayor Sadiq Khan on Thursday will blame Brexit for costing the UK economy £140 billion ($178 billion), calling on the government to “urgently” rebuild relations with the European Union to stem the decline.

Britain’s EU divorce has also meant there are 2 million fewer jobs nationwide than there otherwise would have been, including 290,000 lost positions in London, according to research by Cambridge Econometrics commissioned by City Hall that the Labour Party’s Khan will reference in a speech at Mansion House. Half of the total job losses are in financial services and construction.

“The hard-line version of Brexit we’ve ended up with is dragging our economy down and pushing up the cost of living,” Khan will say, according to excerpts released by his office. “The cost of Brexit crisis can only be solved if we take a mature approach and if we are open to improving our trading arrangements with our European neighbors.”

While Khan’s excoriation of Brexit is in tune with the UK’s mainly Remain-voting capital city, it’s at odds with the more cautious line Labour leader Keir Starmer is trying to tread ahead of a general election expected in the second half of the year. A Remainer himself, Starmer is nevertheless seeking to win back the votes of Brexit-supporting former Labour voters in the north of England and the Midlands who switched to the Conservatives in the 2019 election. Starmer said in September there is “no case for rejoining the EU” or its single market and customs union.

Starmer has also said he wants a closer relationship with the EU, but he tends to avoid referring to the negative effects of Brexit, which was backed by 52% of voters in the 2016 referendum that triggered Britain’s exit from the bloc.

UK Economy Is 6% Smaller Because of Brexit

Difference from non-Brexit scenario

Source: Cambridge Econometrics

Britain’s economic output would have hit £2.34 trillion in 2023 if the nation had remained inside the EU, 6% more than the £2.2 trillion it logged, according to Cambridge Econometrics. It predicted the impact will worsen, shaving £311 billion off projected output in 2035 compared to a non-Brexit scenario, equivalent to a 10.1% hit. The analysis uses historical data to predict how the economy of a non-Brexit “counterfactual UK” would have performed.

The report also suggests London’s economy was £30 billion smaller than it would have been without Brexit. The average Londoner was £3,400 worse off in 2023 due to the vote, compared to the £2,000 estimate for the average Briton.

Khan will use the report to make the case for addressing London’s post-Brexit labor shortages with an approach to migration that is “informed by evidence, not prejudice,” as well as pushing for new arrangements with the EU.

“We urgently need to build a closer relationship with the EU,” Khan will say. “A new settlement would not only turbocharge our economy and help to raise living standards, but help to unlock the growth and prosperity we need.”

Prime Minister Rishi Sunak’s spokesman, Max Blain, dismissed the findings, telling reporters at a regular briefing Thursday the IMF’s forecast for UK economic growth is brighter than for many of its peers. “The UK has grown faster than Italy and Germany since the Brexit referendum in 2016, and faster than Germany since leaving the EU in 2020,” he said.

— With assistance from Emily Ashton and Lucy White

(Updates with comment from Sunak’s spokesman in final paragraph.)
 
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