Brexit Is Teaching Britain A Lesson In Humility; Boris Johnson finalizes EU Exit Deal!

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bnew said:
is this a common topic of discussion among regular folks there these days?
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Yes. Folks hate Boris right now. Even the ones who voted for him.

To be honest, most of the people I surround myself with are remainers, but even the remainers who voted for Boris (they exist) regret their vote.
 
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hashmander said:
this is quite satisfying. anglo arrogance is something else. they need to be taught a harsh lesson, pain and suffering by the common man be damned.
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you should have seen those early Question Time's around the time of the brexit vote.

"we are going to show them"

"they cannot do without our markets"

"german car makers will have no choice but to push germany to support us"

etc

that comedown:banderas:
 
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incredible watching them trying to spin wto rules as some sort of victory of no deal

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BORIS GOT A TRADE DEAL!!!!

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I am shocked!

A historic deal on the UK’s future trading and security relationship with the European Union has been struck on Christmas Eve, a week before the end of the Brexit transition period.

As the country leaves the single market and customs union on 31 December, new arrangements allowing for tariff-free trade in goods and close police and judicial cooperation will come into force.

The announcement followed a final morning call between Boris Johnson in Downing Street and the European commission president, Ursula von der Leyen, in her Berlaymont headquarters in Brussels – the fifth such telephone conversation over the last 24 hours.

The trade agreement – running to 2,000 pages – is unprecedented in scope, containing provisions on subjects varying from civil nuclear cooperation and energy interconnections to fishing and aviation.

The prime minister told his cabinet late on Wednesday night that it respected the sovereignty of both sides, as he urged senior figures to help him sell it.

On Wednesday, the Brexiter European Research Group of Conservative MPs said it would ask a self-styled “star chamber” of lawyers to scrutinise the terms before giving its support.

The agreement avoids a no-deal exit that the Office for Budget Responsibility had warned would reduce Britain’s economic output by £40bn in 2021 and cost more than 300,000 jobs.

The UK left the EU on 31 January but has benefited from continued membership of the single market and customs union over the last year, with British citizens retaining the right to freedom of movement around the bloc.

The end of the transition period will bring widespread changes for British businesses and citizens, as a new chapter in the country’s relationship with its neighbours begins.

Businesses will face extra paperwork and costs when trading with the UK’s biggest export market. Freedom of movement for most UK nationals will end, with restrictions imposed on stays in EU member states. As a “third country” to the EU, coronavirus travel restrictions could be imposed on UK nationals as of 1 January.

The agreement will nevertheless be a matter of huge relief to millions of people on both sides, four and a half years since the UK decided to leave the EU in June 2016. The negotiations, staged in Brussels and London, had weaved precariously through a pandemic, appearing doomed to failure at several points.

Only two weeks ago, Johnson told the cabinet to prepare for a no-deal exit, warning the public that such an eventuality was “very, very likely”.

The sticking points at the end of the talks had been on EU access to British fishing waters and Brussels’ demand for rules that would ensure neither side could gain a competitive advantage in trade as their rulebook diverged over time.

In the final days, it had been future EU access and quotas in British fishing waters, an issue of small economic impact but high political salience for both sides, that was the difference between a deal and a breakdown in talks.

The EU had offered a six-year transition period for phasing in a 25% reduction in the catch by value taken by European fleets in British waters, with access guaranteed to a six to 12 nautical mile zone from the British coastline.

Downing Street had tabled a counter-proposal of a three-year transition period with a 60% reduction – and no access to the nautical zone.

The compromise involves a transition period of five and a half years to phase in the changes, according to sources, with the UK accepting a 25% repatriation of quotas. But Downing Street has knocked back attempts by the EU to establish a mechanism under which changes to the quotas in the future could lead to tariffs on British exports. The issue had been key to No 10’s claims to have taken back control of British waters.

Following the announcement of a deal, the European commission sent the draft treaty to the member states. Should the 27 capitals be content with the deal, ministers on the council of the EU will agree on provisional application of the agreement on 1 January.

EU ambassadors were due to meet on Thurday morning to take the first step. The European parliament declined to stage a vote of consent this year given the lack of time for scrutiny. MEPs will have their say later next month.
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the next guy said:
Let's see. Hoping you it isn't a disaster for you
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Here's the mind fukk...and this is where the gullibility of people comes into play...

I fully expect this deal to leave the UK worse off than the things we complained about when we were in the EU.

I dont think we will save any money that would have usually gone to the EU.

They still get to fish for a few years.

We can't move freely in the EU for work.

But....and here's the mind fukk...it's better than no deal. So you take what you get.

So we are in a worse position than we were before, but better off than we potentially could have been. Going forward, I expect the media and politicians will try to keep us focused on what we avoided and ignore what has been lost, and we will fall for it hook, line and sinker.
 
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