Breaking... Ukrainian President Zelensky says China has now joined Russia’s war against Ukraine.

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The US never militarily invaded Cuba. It supported a small coup force of native Cubans. JFK specifically refused to do targeted air strikes. Cuba today is so broke it can barely keep the lights on.

You lie like an orc.




The US toppled the taliban government and drive its organization into Pakistan. The US suffered 2,000+ killed in 20 years of combat. The Russians lose 2,000 killed every week and have not toppled the Ukrainian government.



Russia will be ran out of Eastern Ukraine with 10x the casualties America suffered in Vietnam. Your daddy Putin is 72 years old. He has no successors. The question is if Russia as a nation survives or is broken up into several fiefdoms.




Orc fakkit fantasies. Russia is on a military economy destroying its future. The EU and US are largely supplying Ukraine with stuff it doesn’t use and left over stocks from the Cold War. Russia has the GDP of Italy. Any best against NATO goes badly. As to why Russia didn’t do shyt when Sweden and Finland joined NATO.
The US militarily invaded Cuba. It funded it, trained them, and provided vessels for the coup. They failed. Cuba being broke is due to communism failing, not the US. Key point look at Vietnam in comparison or hell look at the failure of sanctions on RUssia to actually cripple Russia economically.

Nothing I said is a like by the way. Its all documented.

The US toppled the taliban, so then they had to pay the Taliban for peace while they withdrew. LOL U.N. Has Flown $2.9B in Cash to Afghanistan Since Taliban Seized Control
20 years and the US left having accomplished nothing that it went in their to acheive. Bin Ladin was in Afghanistan, the new government was never effective, no pipeline was built through the nation, just a money sink.

Russia isn't being ran out of the Donbass though, so you don't really have a point. Even the US has told Ukraine they may have to accept territorial concessions.

Russian's economy isn't destroyed. Russia's industry sectore is empowered and self sustaining eithout access to europe or the US.

The US gave so many munitions to Ukraine that it could not fulfill its own munition contracts and had to modify contracts to support itself and increase production. These capabilities won't be realized until a few years from now. US arms stockpiles strained by Ukraine, Israel support: INDOPACOM boss

Either way, reality shows that Russia has accomplished what it set out to do, while NATO and the Ukraine project has failed.
 

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Casualties mean nothing in a war?

:gucci:

Breh what?

We talking about people who don’t even sign up for the military. The majority of the people on front lines were taking off the streets and forced to fight. What was the news calling them? Cannon fodder?
 

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The US militarily invaded Cuba. It funded it, trained them, and provided vessels for the coup. They failed. Cuba being broke is due to communism failing, not the US. Key point look at Vietnam in comparison or hell look at the failure of sanctions on RUssia to actually cripple Russia economically.

The US funded a local insurgency. It didn’t military invade Cuba you goofy. Were there American tanks in Cuba? Did US troops land on Cuban soil in any capacity?

No wonder you crave Russian dikk so much you lie just like them .

During the Bay of Pigs invasion, President Kennedy refused to authorize further air support or direct US military intervention to prevent the invasion from escalating into a wider conflict with the Soviet Union, despite the CIA's initial plan to bomb Cuban airfields and provide air cover for the invasion force

Literally called the Kennedy Betrayal



Cuba is struggling because of Us economic blockade. Cuba is about as communist as China :mjlol:

The US toppled the taliban, so then they had to pay the Taliban for peace while they withdrew. LOL
Yeah they hid in the mountains until the US got bored of trying to civilize a bunch of savages.

The city of Chicago had more murders in 20 years than soldiers died in Afghanistan :mjlol:


Keep in mind the Soviets lost 20,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and then collapsed shortly after same as your Russian daddy will collapse


That’s humanitarian aid so they don’t starve you fukking retard :laff:


Russia isn't being ran out of the Donbass though, so you don't really have a point. Even the US has told Ukraine they may have to accept territorial concessions.


Russia hasn’t even captured all of Donbas after 14 years of war.

President Vladimir Putin has said Russia's primary tactical goal is to take the whole of the Donbas region in southeastern Ukraine. Russia controls just under a fifth of Ukraine, including about 80% of the Donbas.



This would be like all of the US invading Colorado and only making it to Colorado Springs in a decade of war while losing a million men :russ:




Russian's economy isn't destroyed. Russia's industry sectore is empowered and self sustaining eithout access to europe or the US.


Hey retarded orc fakkit, what does 21% interest rates mean?


Either way, reality shows that Russia has accomplished what it set out to do, while NATO and the Ukraine project has failed.

Project failed so hard the third largest economy in the world wants to join

Japan says it wants to join a NATO command for the support of Ukraine






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The second problem Putin would encounter on the road to a less militarised economy comes from Russia’s worsening demographics. A chronic shortage of workers explains in large part Russia’s low unemployment rate of roughly 2%. Civilian industry is operating at barely 80% of capacity because of a lack of labour, while 1.6 million jobs are unfilled, opens new tab, according to official media. By 2030, the shortage of workers could reach 2 to 4 million people, according to a Russian report, opens new tab citing Moscow-based consultancy Yakov and Partners.

Scaling down military operations and sending soldiers back home should help in theory. But Russia’s workforce is shrinking by around 1 million men every year due to its terrible demographics, notes Janis Kluge, an economist at the German Institute for International and Security Affairs. Furthermore, he adds, returning troops and the 600,000 workers hired in the military sector in the last three years would find it hard to get jobs. They often hail from the country’s poorest regions and lack the skills needed in the civilian economy.





Soon as Putin dies or the war ends Russia is finished/
 

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The US funded a local insurgency. It didn’t military invade Cuba you goofy. Were there American tanks in Cuba? Did US troops land on Cuban soil in any capacity?

No wonder you crave Russian dikk so much you lie just like them .

During the Bay of Pigs invasion, President Kennedy refused to authorize further air support or direct US military intervention to prevent the invasion from escalating into a wider conflict with the Soviet Union, despite the CIA's initial plan to bomb Cuban airfields and provide air cover for the invasion force

Literally called the Kennedy Betrayal



Cuba is struggling because of Us economic blockade. Cuba is about as communist as China :mjlol:


Yeah they hid in the mountains until the US got bored of trying to civilize a bunch of savages.

The city of Chicago had more murders in 20 years than soldiers died in Afghanistan :mjlol:


Keep in mind the Soviets lost 20,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and then collapsed shortly after same as your Russian daddy will collapse



That’s humanitarian aid so they don’t starve you fukking retard :laff:





Russia hasn’t even captured all of Donbas after 14 years of war.

President Vladimir Putin has said Russia's primary tactical goal is to take the whole of the Donbas region in southeastern Ukraine. Russia controls just under a fifth of Ukraine, including about 80% of the Donbas.



This would be like all of the US invading Colorado and only making it to Colorado Springs in a decade of war while losing a million men :russ:







Hey retarded orc fakkit, what does 21% interest rates mean?




Project failed so hard the third largest economy in the world wants to join

Japan says it wants to join a NATO command for the support of Ukraine






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The second problem Putin would encounter on the road to a less militarised economy comes from Russia’s worsening demographics. A chronic shortage of workers explains in large part Russia’s low unemployment rate of roughly 2%. Civilian industry is operating at barely 80% of capacity because of a lack of labour, while 1.6 million jobs are unfilled, opens new tab, according to official media. By 2030, the shortage of workers could reach 2 to 4 million people, according to a Russian report, opens new tab citing Moscow-based consultancy Yakov and Partners.

Scaling down military operations and sending soldiers back home should help in theory. But Russia’s workforce is shrinking by around 1 million men every year due to its terrible demographics, notes Janis Kluge, an economist at the German Institute for International and Security Affairs. Furthermore, he adds, returning troops and the 600,000 workers hired in the military sector in the last three years would find it hard to get jobs. They often hail from the country’s poorest regions and lack the skills needed in the civilian economy.





Soon as Putin dies or the war ends Russia is finished/
The US literally tried to overthrow Cuba while simultaneously hiding its own involvement. We trained funded, provided vessels, and intel to the rebels. Just like the US did in Ukraine during the euro maiden nonsense.

Kennedy not being whole heatedly behind it doesn't change the fact that it was a US led insurrgency operation that failed entirely.

Cuba is struggling because its a Communist dictatorship. If the Castro's stop being power hungry despots the Cuban people could have prospered, even outside of the US sphere of influence with simple market economics and productivity. Socialism hurt them more than anything.

Did the US accomplish its objective in Afghanistan? No, US lost. Same as Vietnam, the US killed more vietnamese than the Vietnamese killed the US soliders, who accomplished their political objective? The North Vietnamese, the US lost. This is the reality of war kid. Its not about who killed the most people its about who accomplished the political objective that started the conflict.

What does Japan joining or wanting to join NATO have to do with anything discussed in this thread? Nothing, just rambling.

So now the claim is that Russia is actually losing by winning the war and acheving the political objectives it sought initially. LOL
 

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The US literally tried to overthrow Cuba while simultaneously hiding its own involvement. We trained funded, provided vessels, and intel to the rebels. Just like the US did in Ukraine during the euro maiden nonsense.

Yeah but they didn’t military invade Cuba you fukking retard. That’s what the entire point was. I explicitly said the US funded an insurgency but did not militarily invade. You wouldn’t have to embarrass yourself if you would just think before you type.

If the US invaded Cuba it would be the 51dt state :russ:


Btw Euromaiden was CIA?
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That’s a lot of CIA :russ:



More likely, like the Poles, Latvians, Georgians, Serbs, Lithuanians, Moldovans, Croats, Albanians, Turks, Macedonians, the Ukrainians want to live in Western Europeans and not third world vodka swilling aids having barbarians.


I mean the Ukrainians have been putting you orcs in the dirt for 3 years by the hundreds of thousands. Not enough CIA to do that :skip:


Invisible Losses: Tens of thousands fighting for Russia are dying unnoticed on the frontline in Ukraine


Cuba is struggling because it’s a Communist dictatorship. If the Castro's stop being power hungry despots the Cuban people could have prospered, even outside of the US sphere of influence with simple market economics and productivity. Socialism hurt them more than anything.
Cuba has the same form of government China and Vietnam have. China and Vietnam prosper because they aren’t being economically blockaded by the largest economic power in the world.

Cuba’s standard of living is still higher than nearly every country in its region



Did the US accomplish its objective in Afghanistan? No, US lost.

Was the US looking to annex Afghanistan Orc?

Same as Vietnam, the US killed more vietnamese than the Vietnamese killed the US soliders,
Was the US looking to annex Vietnam Orc?


What does Japan joining or wanting to join NATO have to do with anything discussed in this thread? Nothing, just rambling.


Third largest economy in the world. A center of technological and scientific research. 6th largest navy in the world.

South Korea and Japan arms industries grow nearly as fast as Russia's
SIPRI study credits nearly 40% increase to bigger defense budgets and exports




Let’s see who wins. You third world orcs or the collective west.

So now the claim is that Russia is actually losing by winning the war and acheving the political objectives it sought initially. LOL

Putins objectives were to topple the Ukrainian government, demilitarize the Ukrainian military and conquer Ukraine.


Which one of those objectives has been achieved fakkit?
 

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Yeah but they didn’t military invade Cuba you fukking retard. That’s what the entire point was. I explicitly said the US funded an insurgency but did not militarily invade. You wouldn’t have to embarrass yourself if you would just think before you type.

If the US invaded Cuba it would be the 51dt state :russ:


Btw Euromaiden was CIA?
images



That’s a lot of CIA :russ:



More likely, like the Poles, Latvians, Georgians, Serbs, Lithuanians, Moldovans, Croats, Albanians, Turks, Macedonians, the Ukrainians want to live in Western Europeans and not third world vodka swilling aids having barbarians.


I mean the Ukrainians have been putting you orcs in the dirt for 3 years by the hundreds of thousands. Not enough CIA to do that :skip:


Invisible Losses: Tens of thousands fighting for Russia are dying unnoticed on the frontline in Ukraine



Cuba has the same form of government China and Vietnam have. China and Vietnam prosper because they aren’t being economically blockaded by the largest economic power in the world.

Cuba’s standard of living is still higher than nearly every country in its region





Was the US looking to annex Afghanistan Orc?


Was the US looking to annex Vietnam Orc?





Third largest economy in the world. A center of technological and scientific research. 6th largest navy in the world.

South Korea and Japan arms industries grow nearly as fast as Russia's
SIPRI study credits nearly 40% increase to bigger defense budgets and exports




Let’s see who wins. You third world orcs or the collective west.



Putins objectives were to topple the Ukrainian government, demilitarize the Ukrainian military and conquer Ukraine.


Which one of those objectives has been achieved fakkit?
The Bay of Pigs was literally a US planned invasion for the overthrow of Cuba. It failed. I know you missed that point but let me repeat it for you because you missed it.
It was a failure just like AFghanistan was a failure. Just like Vietnam was a failure.

Is Russia failing in Ukraine? No. Russia is doing what they said they wanted to acheive. Period.

Is Russia's economy failing? No. Simple fact. It isn't.

Putin's objective was never to topple the Ukrainian government, which is why they never targeted Zelensky for death and kept him alive to negotiate with.

They stated their objectives openly when the war began. They wanted the 3 separist terroritories, they have them. They wanted to ban Ukraine from ever entering NATO. No one is voting Ukraine into NATO, even the US under Biden rejected that.

They wanted to remove the Bandarist elements in the government, that is the only thing on-going.

I'm still of the belief they will take Odessa to solidify sea access , but we shall see.

What was the goal of NATO and Ukraine, to bring the Donbas provinces back into Ukraine central government and repel Russia. That is not happening.

Russia is winning.
 

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The Bay of Pigs was literally a US planned invasion for the overthrow of Cuba

Yeah not a military invasion. Comparing Russia losing hundreds of thousands of men invading Ukraine to the US funding a local insurgency shows how retarded you are. Give it up.
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It was a failure just like AFghanistan

Did you the US want to annex Afghanistan Orc?
Just like Vietnam was a failure.

Did the US want to annex Vietnam Orc?

Is Russia failing in Ukraine? No. Russia is doing what they said they wanted to acheive. Period.

If the objectives are achieved why are Russians still dying? Even your daddy Putin says the wars objectives haven’t been achieved

Russian President Vladimir Putin has said peace with Ukraine will only take place "when we achieve our objectives".


Mr Putin said that "there will be peace [in Ukraine] when we achieve our objectives". Those "objectives do not change", he said, listing "denazification, demilitarisation and its neutral status". These are themes he has highlighted from the start of the war.
At one point he revealed that Russia currently has a total of 617,000 troops fighting in Ukraine. He also claimed that on top of 300,000 people called up for service last year, another 486,000 have signed up voluntarily as contract soldiers.

"The stream of our men who are ready to defend the interests of the homeland with weapons in their hands is not diminishing," he said. "Altogether there will be just under half a million men by the end of this year. Why do we need a mobilisation?"

He gave no number of military losses, but disclosed that children of people within his "close" circle have fought for so-called private military companies, and a number of people "close to me" have died.

A classified US intelligence report estimated this week that 315,000 Russian soldiers had been either killed or wounded since the war began - which it said was almost 90% of Russia's military personnel at the start of the invasion.




So to sum it up



“Denazification”

Whatever that means


“Demilitarization”

Nope

Neutrality


“Nope”


Are you calling your daddy a liar?


Putin doesn’t care about Donbas btw, it’s a bonbed out shythole now that Russia will never rebuild.

Is Russia's economy failing? No. Simple fact. It isn't.

What does 21% interest rates mean retard?

Selected-indicators-of-the-Russian-economy.png



You clearly don’t understand economics.

Putin's objective was never to topple the Ukrainian government,

which is why they never targeted Zelensky for death and kept him alive to negotiate with.

Lying again orc fakkit?




I realize you are operating with a very low IQ but read what Putin says about Zelensky
They wanted to ban Ukraine from ever entering NATO. No one is voting Ukraine into NATO, even the US under Biden rejected that.

That was the case before the war. Do I need to educate on how NATO accession works?



They wanted to remove the Bandarist elements in the government, that is the only thing on-going.

So which is it. Are objectives achieved or not. Did a Russian rape you into delirium? Were you throwing ass on the front lines?

I'm still of the belief they will take Odessa to solidify sea access , but we shall see.

:laff:


Russia can’t advance 25 miles but is going to take Odessa



You orcs are being gutted like pigs. Hopefully we can start gutting some of you local pigs soon.
 

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Yeah not a military invasion. Comparing Russia losing hundreds of thousands of men invading Ukraine to the US funding a local insurgency shows how retarded you are. Give it up.
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Did you the US want to annex Afghanistan Orc?


Did the US want to annex Vietnam Orc?



If the objectives are achieved why are Russians still dying? Even your daddy Putin says the wars objectives haven’t been achieved

Russian President Vladimir Putin has said peace with Ukraine will only take place "when we achieve our objectives".


Mr Putin said that "there will be peace [in Ukraine] when we achieve our objectives". Those "objectives do not change", he said, listing "denazification, demilitarisation and its neutral status". These are themes he has highlighted from the start of the war.
At one point he revealed that Russia currently has a total of 617,000 troops fighting in Ukraine. He also claimed that on top of 300,000 people called up for service last year, another 486,000 have signed up voluntarily as contract soldiers.

"The stream of our men who are ready to defend the interests of the homeland with weapons in their hands is not diminishing," he said. "Altogether there will be just under half a million men by the end of this year. Why do we need a mobilisation?"

He gave no number of military losses, but disclosed that children of people within his "close" circle have fought for so-called private military companies, and a number of people "close to me" have died.

A classified US intelligence report estimated this week that 315,000 Russian soldiers had been either killed or wounded since the war began - which it said was almost 90% of Russia's military personnel at the start of the invasion.




So to sum it up



“Denazification”

Whatever that means


“Demilitarization”

Nope

Neutrality


“Nope”


Are you calling your daddy a liar?


Putin doesn’t care about Donbas btw, it’s a bonbed out shythole now that Russia will never rebuild.



What does 21% interest rates mean retard?

Selected-indicators-of-the-Russian-economy.png



You clearly don’t understand economics.



Lying again orc fakkit?




I realize you are operating with a very low IQ but read what Putin says about Zelensky


That was the case before the war. Do I need to educate on how NATO accession works?





So which is it. Are objectives achieved or not. Did a Russian rape you into delirium? Were you throwing ass on the front lines?



:laff:


Russia can’t advance 25 miles but is going to take Odessa



You orcs are being gutted like pigs. Hopefully we can start gutting some of you local pigs soon.
So you are claiming an actual US funded, planned, and directed military invasion wasn't a military invasion. LOL

So Putin said the war will end only when they meet their objective, they are meeting their objectives and it is the Ukraine trying to initiate a ceasefire, not Russia. So...

You want to talk about interest rates, why? What does that matter to the war effort and the fact that despite all the media claims their economy has not cratered and they are not in collapse?

Its incredibly sad that you seem to have taken the path of ignoring reality, to maintain the illusion that NATO won this proxy war.
 

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:mjlol: their political objective was regime change and demilitarization. It's been three years. Zelensky is still in power and Ukraine still has a military.
Their poltical objective was removal of bandarist, that is still in play.
They have never pushed for the removal of Zelensky, just the banderites or nazis as they call them.

Zelensky is hanging on by a thread, but thats due to the US not Russia.
Ukraine has a military that is built on beating up old me, and conscripting them and women to join as they have a manpower shortage.
 

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So you are claiming an actual US funded, planned, and directed military invasion wasn't a military invasion. LOL

Yep. The US didn’t military invade Cuba. It armed insurgents and failed to provide direct military support as agreed for fear of a wider war with the Soviets.

No comparison to you orcs invading Ukraine and getting tossed around like a $5 hoe.

So Putin said the war will end only when they meet their objective, they are meeting their objectives and it is the Ukraine trying to initiate a ceasefire, not Russia. So...

You’re a loyal hoe. Glad you changed your tune on Russia having achieved its objectives. Good boy.

You want to talk about interest rates,
Is 21% interest rates good or bad?
media claims their economy has not cratered and they are not in collapse?

What media? Their economy is being powered by the war. It has sacrificed a generation of young men in an already impending demographic collapse.

They are fukked. If you had a mid-level IQ you would understand this.

Its incredibly sad that you seem to have taken the path of ignoring reality, to maintain the illusion that NATO won this proxy war.

NATO is doing fine. Added Finland and Sweden. Japan and South Korea want to join.

It’s you third world orc retards that are in trouble.


Imagine dying by the hundreds of thousands for Donbas :laff:
 

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Their poltical objective was removal of bandarist, that is still in play.
They have never pushed for the removal of Zelensky, just the banderites or nazis as they call them.

Zelensky is hanging on by a thread, but thats due to the US not Russia.
Ukraine has a military that is built on beating up old me, and conscripting them and women to join as they have a manpower shortage.
:mjlol: Y'all vatnikkas keep moving the goalposts.

It's been "victory is days away" for three years.
 
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