Breaking... Ukrainian President Zelensky says China has now joined Russia’s war against Ukraine.

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Another day, another desperate plea for attention from Trump. Cokehead is now evoking Iran. :mjlol:

 

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So Russia was funding a decade+ of civil War in Ukraine …

Decided that strategy wasn’t enough, invaded and is still at war 3 years in with Ukraine taking ground inside Russia. Already at least 3-4 times the casualties we took in Vietnam…. At least 20-40x the deaths we took in 20 years of Afghanistan+iraq.

And this is called “winning”?

Yeesh.



I like how yall speak on casualties. Like Ukraine and Russia wasn’t just forcing men to go out there and die.:mjlol:


Dudes went from walking their dog to being put on a battlefield. No desire to fight and little to no training. Casualties mean nothing in this.
 

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So Russia was funding a decade+ of civil War in Ukraine …

Decided that strategy wasn’t enough, invaded and is still at war 3 years in with Ukraine taking ground inside Russia. Already at least 3-4 times the casualties we took in Vietnam…. At least 20-40x the deaths we took in 20 years of Afghanistan+iraq.

And this is called “winning”?

Yeesh.
Lol, a civil occured based on western meddling.
Russia helped the breakaway regions in response while NATO funded the central government.

Donbas held ground against Ukraine with NATO backing and maintained sovereignty in their provinces.

Russia came in when a big push was about to occur and you get the invasion. So no matter how you think you are framing it , it looks bad on NATO for funding a terrible government as what they installed in the Ukraine


Russia is going to end this war a having accomplished the political objectives it sought. Ukraine will have failed. That's is a win for Russia and the donbas no matter how you spin it.
 

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Nope. He trying to get the U.S. to jump in .there are many Russians who are ethnically non white Asian looking. You can't just look at these people and say they are chinese. This is a desperate move from man who needs support he was promised by America.


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Sterzel speaks Chinese and lived in China.
 

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Commies helping Commies. Wow such a big shock.....











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Russia is going to end this war a having accomplished the political objectives it sought. Ukraine will have failed. That's is a win for Russia and the donbas no matter how you spin it.

“Political objectives” :mjlol:







Imagine launching a war against a country 1/5th your size and that country subsequently invading you :russ:

Fakkit ass orc
 

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i stand corrected

it's been nice knowing y'all

:francis:
I like Zelensky as a leader but I agree with that he’s reaching here. Ukraine has units of foreign soldiers. China can’t control who wants to go to Ukraine for money. Unless he can show a connection between this soldier and the Chinese state it won’t mean anything.
 

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Lol, a civil occured based on western meddling.
Russia helped the breakaway regions in response while NATO funded the central government.

Donbas held ground against Ukraine with NATO backing and maintained sovereignty in their provinces.

Russia came in when a big push was about to occur and you get the invasion. So no matter how you think you are framing it , it looks bad on NATO for funding a terrible government as what they installed in the Ukraine


Russia is going to end this war a having accomplished the political objectives it sought. Ukraine will have failed. That's is a win for Russia and the donbas no matter how you spin it.
A decade plus of backing a civil war…

3+ years losing whole battalions of men.

And Ukraine is directly bordering Russia… they still haven’t taken over Ukraine.

If the US was in Russias position you would say the US is winning?

:francis:

Yeesh
 

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A decade plus of backing a civil war…

3+ years losing whole battalions of men.

And Ukraine is directly bordering Russia… they still haven’t taken over Ukraine.

If the US was in Russias position you would say the US is winning?

:francis:

Yeesh
US couldn't take over Cuba, you really don't have a point do you?
US spent 20 years in Afghanistan and everything they did was lost the minute they withdraw.
US spen close to a decade in Vietnam and accomplished nothing, literally was ran out of the country.

Russia is going to end up annexing the parts of the Ukraine that they want. They have shown the ability to out produce all of NATO with regard to munitions and they have the manpower of battle field experienced personnel and doctrine of the new form of near pear warfare unlike NATO.

I don't think ou really know what a win or a loss is to be honest.
 

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US couldn't take over Cuba, you really don't have a point do you?
US spent 20 years in Afghanistan and everything they did was lost the minute they withdraw.
US spen close to a decade in Vietnam and accomplished nothing, literally was ran out of the country.

Russia is going to end up annexing the parts of the Ukraine that they want. They have shown the ability to out produce all of NATO with regard to munitions and they have the manpower of battle field experienced personnel and doctrine of the new form of near pear warfare unlike NATO.

I don't think ou really know what a win or a loss is to be honest.
I’m pretty confused on how Russia can be so adept at war… but can’t prevent Ukrainian forces from taking territory inside Russia…

Russia hasnt even held air superiority during this whole war…

How many more years do you think its going to take before Russia actually wins?
 

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I’m pretty confused on how Russia can be so adept at war… but can’t prevent Ukrainian forces from taking territory inside Russia…

Russia hasnt even held air superiority during this whole war…

How many more years do you think its going to take before Russia actually wins?
You are confused how a nation with a few provinces has been able to successfuly take on a country backed fully by NATO militarily with regard to access to armaments, intelligence, and money, while being largely internationally sanctioned and acheving its political objectives outright while the other nation is seeking a ceasefire and a truce. You don't understand how the nation that is acheiving its objectives is winning.

I can't help you if you don't understand war.
 

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US couldn't take over Cuba, you really don't have a point do you?
The US never militarily invaded Cuba. It supported a small coup force of native Cubans. JFK specifically refused to do targeted air strikes. Cuba today is so broke it can barely keep the lights on.

You lie like an orc.


US spent 20 years in Afghanistan and everything they did was lost the minute they withdraw.

The US toppled the taliban government and drive its organization into Pakistan. The US suffered 2,000+ killed in 20 years of combat. The Russians lose 2,000 killed every week and have not toppled the Ukrainian government.

US spen close to a decade in Vietnam and accomplished nothing, literally was ran out of the country.

Russia will be ran out of Eastern Ukraine with 10x the casualties America suffered in Vietnam. Your daddy Putin is 72 years old. He has no successors. The question is if Russia as a nation survives or is broken up into several fiefdoms.


They have shown the ability to out produce all of NATO with regard to munitions and they have the manpower of battle field experienced personnel and doctrine of the new form of near pear warfare unlike NATO.

Orc fakkit fantasies. Russia is on a military economy destroying its future. The EU and US are largely supplying Ukraine with stuff it doesn’t use and left over stocks from the Cold War. Russia has the GDP of Italy. Any best against NATO goes badly. As to why Russia didn’t do shyt when Sweden and Finland joined NATO even though NATO expansion to its borders were supposedly why it invaded Ukraine in the first place.
 
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