BREAKING: Trump recruiting thousands of loyal followers to place in government positions as a "pro-trump army"

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This may sound silly but coincidently I've been rewatching this anime series called Legend of Galactic Heroes. It's one of my favs because of how much world building goes into the series and also I love the philosophical ideas expressed in the series. For those who are unaware, the gist of it is that there is a democratic republic alliance and authoritarian monarchy who battle for supremacy throughout the series.

What you said reminds me of a line from that show where one of the characters tries to learn about history in order to understand the current.

Below is the clip (ignore the fact the poster of the video seems to be a fascist who is highlighting the clip as a positive...) and catch what is said at 2:40. It basically touches on exactly what you said. Warning: some nsfw images at the beginning.


This is a series from the 80s and 90s. It's based on some novels written in the early 80s. So, the concerns and trends people notice in Trump aren't some new phenomenon. Those who have some sense of history have seen them before and it was even referenced in the way you expressed, today, back then and well before it. Technology and sometimes culture changes. The fundamental nature of human beings do not and therefore it's easy to see trends if you're paying attention.

Edit: below is this full episode and can be watched without seeing the rest of the series. Worth a watch to see a good presentation of the degradation of democratic society into authoritarianism even if fictional. For good documentaries on this, the first episode of a BBC documentary called the Rise of The Nazis is a good one. Also a six part series called the Death of Yugoslavia is also a good one too. America isn't an exception, despite Americans thinking they are exceptional, and you see the same degradation play out.

Great series, love the remake.

I won't spoil how it ends, but I can see why a fascist would like the show.

They don't understand that a metric fukkton of people died and sacrificed to get to that ending.

His ass wouldn't even be alive to see it.
 

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Great series, love the remake.

I won't spoil how it ends, but I can see why a fascist would like the show.

They don't understand that a metric fukkton of people died and sacrificed to get to that ending.

His ass wouldn't even be alive to see it.
I also noticed he edited the video to remove some commentary that critiques the citizens clamoring for dictatorship. I may be remembering it wrong but I remember something along the lines of how the historian mentioned "people were concerned about the direction of society but instead of working to fix their broken system they found a quick anecdote in dictatorship". I'm pretty sure it was at some point in that clip but is missing.

He omits the followup of how the people supported it at first but then started to sour on it as the oppression started to impact the whole of society. As you said they go on to say bllions die. The series does a balanced job of showing the downsides and the upsides of both forms of governance but of course online right-wingers pick and choose bits and pieces of all sorts of things to drive a narrative. Yeah it's a work of fiction but these types even pervert fictional material for propaganda.
 

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Yeah it's a work of fiction but these types even pervert fictional material for propaganda.
I love these "works of fiction" because the ideas come from reality.

Follow the red string so to speak.

The scenario is entirely plausible, but like you said, people pick and choose.

It's why I love the Gundam series.

But unfortunately we are heading towards a Zeon like midgame and we saw how that ended.
 

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:dahell: All them posters? Its like 5, all non Chicagoans, posting community reactions. They post shyt I see in the street and on the nightly news. I live it: they just view it.

That said, the assertion that I reject is the “Democrats been planning this” shyt that was being said nonstop. You cant say they planned this and also post non-stop videos of the Mayor and Alderman clearly showing they don’t know what to do and are making it up as they go. The only one planning anything is the governor of Texas but he cool while Brandon Johnson getting the whole smokehouse.

Lastly, Biden is the fed, but they did not have agreements in place with Venezuela (the largest incoming population) so at a point deportations were not possible. Countries dont just accept you dropping folks iff without formal agreements. And stop mischaracterizing my comments: the fly-by-night busses have to be wholly rejected (my comment specifically mentioned busses.) Texas could still say fukk it and send folks, but they literally don’t let the city/state know so migrants show up anywhere and there is nothing in place for them. The busses realistically should be caught when they come into the state so they are rerouted or at least planned for, rather than having migrants shipped en masse and end up in our airport and sleeping in and outside of police stations. As stated in that thread: Texas gets federal funding and has ICE centers. Illinois, Chicago primarily, gets none and has no ICE centers. Its a stunt that is working for Texas Republicans.


All that typing about nothing :mjlol:
 
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This reaction is v dramatic - I actually think his immigration agenda could work and I don’t see why any Black American would be against it? Tbh immigration should be partly privatized, enforcement especially. Closing birthright will be huge too, making it so your citizenship status matches whatever you parents status is.
 

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:what:Why are you such a weirdo? Adding me to a thread title and clearly not serious about the conversation. Peace be with you.

You even said Biden couldn’t deport Venezuelans because of some make believe agreement. :mjlol:


Do you remember, during the campaign Biden was talking about how it was wrong for Trump deport Venezuelans to a different country and not Venezuela? I do. I even remember when Biden got elected and got called out for doing the same. :dead:


Then you have this imagination running wild. Thinking migrant buses should be cut off before entering the state and rerouted. To where? The whole reasons Democrats are going above and beyond and PLANNING to help them is because they are humans and it’s wrong to just ship them from place to place.

Remember, you’re arguing that Texas/Abbot is to blame because they are sending migrants here, but you suggest Chicago should do almost the same thing? Are you serious?


Biden does take blame. Democrats do deserve blame. Greg Abbot deserves blame to. Republicans do deserve blame.
 
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The hilarity if the old fukker just dropped dead tomorrow. Don’t get me wrong, he’s a dangerous evil man. But he’s 77. They’re making plans like he’s 45.
All he needs is a year or 2 in office. He knows the game now, not concerned with re election and will be able to do irreparable damage.

I’m not saying I believe he will be elected because I don’t
 

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You even said Biden couldn’t deport Venezuelans because of some make believe agreement. :mjlol:


Do you remember, during the campaign Biden was talking about how it was wrong for Trump deport Venezuelans to a different country and not Venezuela? I do. I even remember when Biden got elected and got called out for doing the same. :dead:


Then you have this imagination running wild. Thinking migrant buses should be cut off before entering the state and rerouted. To where? The whole reasons Democrats are going above and beyond and PLANNING to help them is because they are humans and it’s wrong to just ship them from place to place.

Remember, you’re arguing that Texas/Abbot is to blame because they are sending migrants here, but you suggest Chicago should do almost the same thing? Are you serious?


Biden does take blame. Democrats do deserve blame. Greg Abbot deserves blame to. Republicans do deserve blame.
I wrote a big ass post in the other thread.

1. Its not imaginary, there was NO deportation agreement with Venezuela. The whole reasoning behind it is in my post in your thread.

2. He was not deporting them TO different countries, he was sneaking them into other countries to then be sent to Venezuela. Biden was said to have done the same...and thats over. He was wrong as was Trump.

3. You keep bringing that up. What I said:

Facts. Folks can show up to community meetings but those busses are still being sent. Only thing that can be done now is the wholly reject them and wait for the fed to ramp up deportations. People coming to the border will never stop as much as people think it can be quelled outright, but now Chicago is in a position where every stop has to be pulled to stop that a$$hole in Texas from doing this and our elected leaders from blowing up our resources on non-residents.

Yup, I said that, and now I remember the context since you keep hammering it:

March will be here in no time. Also, that's how you have to operate in their position to get change done. Get it on the ballot and vote on it. Turning up at community meetings across the city obviously isn't doing shyt to stop any of this.
Not gonna @ Golden Glove as he ain't apart of this, but I agreed with the latter point. It wasn't rejecting busses, it was the people rejecting the city popping random ass shelters up in communities. As deportations ramp up, it will take care of quite a bit of the problem including those in Chicago over time. There are places to put the migrants without dropping them in park clubhouses and police stations. The people who don't have a valid claim will be gone and those who do will get their shot. You keep bringing this up and had me thinking I said some shyt I didn't.

4. Texas is to blame for Migrants being in Chicago en masse. I did not say Chicago had to do anything so what we talmbout :francis: citizens have to protect their community to a degree, so citizens telling Aldermen and the Mayor to cut that shyt out isn't an issue. Mind you, most of these meetings also tell them straight up there are other places they can be. The problem is haphazardly dropping them in neighborhoods with zero plans in place...but Chicago doesn't plan for mass migrants because it isn't in a border state.

So lastly, we can blame everyone then, but I feel like all of these started because of my comment that people said this was a Democratic plan to replace us. I'm not making that shyt up, check your thread. If that is the plan, its farfetched as fukk, being that they have to be accepted under Asylum for a year to even apply as a lawful resident, and then wait another 5 years to apply for naturalization.

Refugees and asylees may apply for naturalization 5 years after the date of their admission to lawful permanent residence. Asylees are admitted to lawful permanent resident status as of the date 1 year before the approval of their Form I-485.


So allow a few hundred thousand asylum seekers to come in, piss off all the voting populace, bankrupt cities not supported by federal funding, all in the hopes they at some time become Democratic voters? Yes, I called out that specific point.
 

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And yet the media continues to cover him as if He's a normal politician and not a fukking criminal and fascist

A part of me secretly want him to throw all the journalist,editors and mainstream media bosses that continue to elevate him in jail If he wins in 2024

I bet they will somehow still bothside it or blame Biden and dems for it as they beg for mercy in jail
 

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Trump (or any of the Republican candidates atm) CAN'T win. We gotta make this possible. For those of you on here who aren't on that bothsides bullshyt (you know who you are) bring at least 2 or 3 people with you to vote. Educate them on the risks if Trump wins.

You can't really reason with Trump supporters at this point :francis: but since Trump is an 77yo obese COVID survivor, maybe we'll get lucky and he'll have health problems or something in the next year and have to drop out

Then again I'm not sure if Biden's chances would be hurt or helped if Trump dropped out and the GOP had to run DeSantis or somebody


It sucks because I think a reasonably popular Democrat would wash Trump, but Biden's approval is so low it's gonna be a spooky election to say the least
 

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You can't really reason with Trump supporters at this point :francis: but since Trump is an 77yo obese COVID survivor, maybe we'll get lucky and he'll have health problems or something in the next year and have to drop out

Then again I'm not sure if Biden's chances would be hurt or helped if Trump dropped out and the GOP had to run DeSantis or somebody


It sucks because I think a reasonably popular Democrat would wash Trump, but Biden's approval is so low it's gonna be a spooky election to say the least

Most of TLR believes that COVID wasn't Trump's fault.
 

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The hilarity if the old fukker just dropped dead tomorrow. Don’t get me wrong, he’s a dangerous evil man. But he’s 77. They’re making plans like he’s 45.

That should tell us something though, right. This is not some short term plot for a former president who would be a lame-duck on day one if elected (under normal circumstances). Everyone who has signed onto this has watched Trump loyalists get decked by the legal system, lose money, get convicted of crimes etc over the last two years. And they're still pledging complete loyalty to Trump. Which tells me this isn't just about one term. This is about more. It's about a guy who, if he wins, will spend four years telling you exactly what he's gonna do next: press for another term in 2028, while claiming he's owed it because the 2020 election was stolen. And in four years, with full control of government and the DOJ, and the potential of replacing Supreme Court justices?
:francis:

Let's not forget Clarence Thomas was the only judge willing to at least entertain handing the election to Trump in 2020. The Chief Justice, John Roberts, has epilepsy and has injured himself fallen multiple times over the last 20 years. What if he had to retire for health issues, and Trump goes shopping for a judge who will give him whatever he wants? What if he finds a way to replace military leadership with pure ideological zealots willing to betray the Constitution? I'm not saying a dictatorship definitely happens, I'm just saying he is doesn't everything possible to create said dictatorship.
 

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I mean, duh!!!! Why do you think they changed hiring practices and went to "experience" instead of strictly relying on education?
 

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Hiring 54000 people in important positions across the goverment wouldn't take "tens of millions dollars....it would literally take billions. you ain't just gonna find people with legal, judicial, defense, regulatory and domestic policy expertise just outta anywhere either.

Does Trump want to be the king of USA forever? probably, but does he have the power, influence and intelligence to do so? HELL NO! This is a guy who couldn't get mexico to pay for the wall, couldn't repeal and replace ACA or even "drain the swamp".....but he is going to take over shyt :unimpressed:

If Trump gets re-elected....Every move he makes will be scrutinized and dosen't really have alot of backing from the party he wants to represent. Like what are is even going on here. Y'all gotta decide if he is inept dude or a secret genius....he can't be both.
 
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