Breaking: Services can be denied to Gays (Supreme Court ruling)

[Thanos]

If a white Christian printing company denied printing out Nazi propaganda would that be ok?

This hypothetical doesn't happen IRL. the other 2 do. In fact during times like this, the opposite happens.

 

[O³ (O cubed)]

This reminds of the wedding cake saga when I was working in the UK Supreme Court.

 

[valet]

This hypothetical doesn't happen IRL. the other 2 do. In fact during times like this, the opposite happens.

I know white Christians who are not Nazis. So again, would that be ok?

 

[Wildhundreds]

I'm not sure if I'm misreading this or not but there's no shortage of Christians willing to provide services to gay people

I didn't know this.. Seriously I didn't. If their is options, then the outrage seems odd to me. Maybe to those who don't have options, I understand.. But a mfer who got options to this should say that, then express support to those who dont..


The way this thread reads as if its doom and gloom to the nation at large.

 

[Pull Up the Roots]

I know white Christians who are not Nazis. So again, would that be ok?

What point do you think you're making?

 

[valet]

What point do you think you're making?

I'll ask it again. Would it be OK for a Christian printing company to deny printing for a Nazi org that asked them?

 

[Will Ross]

It's the selective nature of the refusals that's the problem. There are plenty of religious djs who would do the party.

People use religion as a proxy for their own personal dislikes.

my point is nobody would claim that the DJ that refused to do the party was being hateful.

 

[Mowgli]

I'll ask it again. Would it be OK for a Christian printing company to deny printing for a Nazi org that asked them?

Nazi beliefs aren't Christian so yes, it's ok to tell them to get lost.

If a Nazi says he's Christian he's a straight devil holding a cross

 

[Pull Up the Roots]

I'll ask it again. Would it be OK for a Christian printing company to deny printing for a Nazi org that asked them?

There are no comparisons to be made here between a Nazi choosing to hold a belief and a gay person's inherent characteristics, so your little dilemma is asinine.

 

[nieman]

Na

A lot of businesses not gon make it another year fcking round this day and age with this type sht.

Business Owner: Supreme Court says I don’t have to serve you Queers fck out my face

Gay Brehs: *Drops that viral TikTok & Twitter thread*

BO: Halp!! I’m being cancelled!!! I haven’t seen a single customer in 3 weeks!! I’m being sued!!! I have over 100 open civil cases annnnd they protesting outside my house nonstop!!

I don't think so...now the voices supporting them won't be as loud as the voices against. We're going to be fighting severe handicap matches. Potentially going back to civil rights movements.

Hell, who owns social media platforms? Ok now black people can't post anything other than comedy. Who reports the news? Now you may not get that breaking story...those feel good stories for minorities don't run anymore. This ruling has huge implications in the immediate future.

 

[valet]

There are no comparisons to be made here between a Nazi choosing to hold a belief and a gay person's inherent characteristics, so your little dilemma is asinine.

Gay marriage is an ideology, a belief about what the institution of marriage is. That a choice, a belief. A Christian organization can disagree with that belief system

 

[Adeptus Astartes]

Gay marriage is an ideology, a belief about what the institution of marriage is. That a choice, a belief. A Christian organization can disagree with that belief system

Then just say you don't like gay marriage. Using religion as a way to dodge anti discrimination law is bullshyt.

By saying that anti discrimination law discriminates against your religious beliefs, you are admitting bigotry is a core tenet of your faith.

 

[Still Benefited]

It's about to be 1965-1968 all over again

Put your faith in God. This is all divine,everything is going according to plan

 

[valet]

Then just say you don't like gay marriage. Using religion as a way to dodge anti discrimination law is bullshyt.

By saying that anti discrimination law discriminates against your religious beliefs, you are admitting bigotry is a core tenet of your faith.

Well, the printing company is saying they don't "like" gay marriage. The question is do they have the freedom to refuse.

For example, if I'm pro-choice and I'm asked to print something that I feel is harmful to women's health, reproductive rights. Something that can lead to back alley abortions. And I refuse to do it because it goes my core belief is that this harmful to women and damaging, would people have the same energy?

 

[Adeptus Astartes]

Well, the printing company is saying they don't "like" gay marriage. The question is do they have the freedom to refuse.

For example, if I'm pro-choice and I'm asked to print something that I feel is harmful to women's health, reproductive rights. Something that can lead to back alley abortions. And I refuse to do it because it goes my core belief is that this harmful to women and damaging, would people have the same energy?

No, I don't believe they should. Homosexuality is protected as an innate characteristic like race or sex. Your prolife/choice example is invalid, as was your Nazi example earlier.

The court is essentially saying that religious belief should take precedence over civil rights law.

If a Catholic can refuse to do something for gays, should a follower of Odinism or Hebrew Isrealitism be able to refuse to do something for black or white people respectively?

Where is the line drawn?