Brazilian,Jamaicans etc. are AA now?...

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:gucci: @Nicole0416??? She's half AA dos, half Dominican.

nikka just out here wrong and strong for no reason. :bryan:
I see her as AADoS. I can also see her as Dominican as well. Who made you the judge on shyt? You nutty if you think 23andme makes you something special. You couldn't even do AfricanAncestry.com. The only reason why you know your history is cause you Boule. I know mad nikkas in North Georgia who are fighting for any piece of details about their ancestry. They didn't have "the life". Hell, some were still sharecroppers in the 1900's on some Jane Pittman shyt.
 

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Well that means she's AA. Nothing more to that.
Exactly, she doing the most and shyt. This ain't the fukking Boule. The Boule wants you to have nothing but AADoS blood to join because it was a group created to challenge Garvey's movement. They didn't believe in self-dependent. They believed in doing the white man's dirty work for some change and power within the Black community. The issue with Garvey was he was a freemason that completely created a freemason movement and had the support of freemasons and non DoS-Black freemasons alike throughout the Americas. But the Shiners and the SR freemasons didn't approve of Garvey and wanted him gone, that's when Du Bois created the Boule. This was not only funded by the SR and Shiners but they are to be the watchguards of the Black community as the PHA couldn't be trusted by the white supremacists. This is why this conquer and divide shyt is king in America. To think, those used to have white blood and a lot of white blood but nope, no mention of that. It's like whiteness isn't an evil with some of these types.
 

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:heh: You doing all this cuz you a Halfrican trynna stake your claim? Pobrecito. :therethere: Lay your head on the bosom of somebody who gaf. We ain't talking about you, this discussion is not focused on your family tree, and nobody cares.

You couldn't even do AfricanAncestry.com. The only reason why you know your history is cause you Boule. .
:laff: nikka, I just said in the Viola Davis thread that my grandma was a maid. What kinda Boule is that?!

And why couldn't I, in your opinion, do AfricanAncestry.com? You're losing it, breh. :mjlol:
 

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But the Shiners and the SR freemasons didn't approve of Garvey and wanted him gone, that's when Du Bois created the Boule. This was not only funded by the SR and Shiners but they are to be the watchguards of the Black community as the PHA couldn't be trusted by the white supremacists.

This may be better suited for the Root, because I don't know what these acronyms refer to and their place in AA history.
 

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:heh: You doing all this cuz you a Halfrican trynna stake your claim? Pobrecito. :therethere: Lay your head on the bosom of somebody who gaf. We ain't talking about you, this discussion is not focused on your family tree, and nobody cares.


:laff: nikka, I just said in the Viola Davis thread that my grandma was a maid. What kinda Boule is that?!

And why couldn't I, in your opinion, do AfricanAncestry.com? You're losing it, breh. :mjlol:
This chick lol. You spanish now. :dead:

B, you know I don't give a fukk about your opinion like that. You cool at times but when you on some bullshyt like you did with Azul, you become illogical. Don't act like your parents didn't give you a privilege life. Don't front for reps. Your grandma did that. Not you. You parents benefited from AA. shyt, gave you a chance to go to a top 10 school and this is how you repay them. By dividing and dap fishing?

I want you to do AfricanAncestry. You probably did 23andme. Typical of Boulenites.
 

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In short, yes.

Again, this isn't hard. People are making this much more difficult than it needs to be.

If I married a New Afrikan woman and we moved to Brazil/Jamaica/Nigeria/etc. and had a kid there -- neither she, nor I, nor even our child would magically change ethnicities and become an Afro-Brazilian, Jamaican, or Nigerian, simply because we moved (or simply because our child was born within the borders of those countries)... if hundreds of thousands of us moved to those countries, we would not usurp the ethnic identities of the people of those countries. I would also not expect to be able to speak as a self-appointed representative or authority on their historical experience or issues. My ancestors did not live and develop under the particular social conditions of those countries.

If I (or a large group of folks from my ethnic group) moved to any of those places and married into that national community, then my child (or the children of the large group) would have those ethnic roots there and I'd essentially be assimilating to that society/culture/nation... that would be different from what I described above.

The only way I can see disagreeing with the above is if you think all Africans are the same, with no particularity to our cultures and histories, and are fungible (ironically, this was a logical premise that slavery rested on) as individuals and groups. Which is blatantly false, but acknowledging that is false doesn't mean you're being divisive or disrespectful. On the contrary, it allows us to engage across the diaspora and the continent from a position of respect and appreciation for each other.
 

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:patrice:No, that means she's ethnically half AA, half Dominican, and racially 'black'. How is this confusing? :jbhmm:
She African b. Her heritage is Black American and Black Dominican. How she identifies herself as is Black before all. What's so hard about this?

Who cares what you or I think for her. It's about what she thinks? Why you talking like your shyt don't stink? You ain't no judge. You just a negro with a PC like me and every other nikka on this site who's Black.
 

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:patrice:No, that means she's ethnically half AA, half Dominican, and racially 'black'. How is this confusing? :jbhmm:

It isn't.

The history of AAs and who is AA can't be solely determined by the percentage of that ethnicity because of how many AAs were raped by or married into white families. Hence, AA in your bloodline makes you AA.

Unless you want to impose an arbitrary cutoff. For example, less than 25% makes you officially not AA.
 

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If I married a New Afrikan woman and we moved to Brazil/Jamaica/Nigeria/etc. and had a kid there -- neither she, nor I, nor even our child would magically change ethnicities and become an Afro-Brazilian, Jamaican, or Nigerian, simply because we moved (or simply because our child was born within the borders of those countries)... if hundreds of thousands of us moved to those countries, we would not usurp the ethnic identities of the people of those countries. I would also not expect to be able to speak as a self-appointed representative or authority on their historical experience or issues. My ancestors did not live and develop under the particular social conditions of those countries.

If I (or a large group of folks from my ethnic group) moved to any of those places and married into that national community, then my child (or the children of the large group) would have those ethnic roots there and I'd essentially be assimilating to that society/culture/nation... that would be different from what I described above.

The only way I can see disagreeing with the above is if you think all Africans are the same, with no particularity to our cultures and histories, and are fungible (ironically, this was a logical premise that slavery rested on) as individuals and groups. Which is blatantly false, but acknowledging that is false doesn't mean you're being divisive or disrespectful. On the contrary, it allows us to engage across the diaspora and the continent from a position of respect and appreciation for each other.
What's a new Afirkan breh?

If you referring to a Black woman. No, you wouldn't be that culture unless that child was accepted. Maybe a great athlete, politician or something important to society.

Davido born in Atlanta and everyone sees him as Nigerian, not AA and clearly not AADoS.

Your child would be both cultures. There is nothing else to it. That's was Naomi Osaka sees herself as Haitian and Japanese. Not one or the other. A lot of Haitians see her as there's and a lot of Japanese see her as there's. When she is more Haitian as she was around that culture more and has a family school in Haiti and she's there a lot. I am pretty sure I am more AADoS to some but I see myself as both. I don't want to say I like one more than the other. I fukk with both. I am in America so my information and research is mainly based on AADoS but since marriage, I been looking far more at what's going on in Nigeria as for the first time in my life, I know I might actually have to go back more than for family events. That clearly changes how I see my relationship with that land as now I will have stake in it. Even changes my overall take here.

This idea that you can't be both is problematic if you are. Because, that's not how reality works. At least not in my eyes. For you who's not in my shoes, that maybe different but I see myself at AADoS as much as I see myself as Brafian.
 

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What's a new Afirkan breh?

If you referring to a Black woman. No, you wouldn't be that culture unless that child was accepted. Maybe a great athlete, politician or something important to society.

Davido born in Atlanta and everyone sees him as Nigerian, not AA and clearly not AADoS.

Your child would be both cultures. There is nothing else to it. That's was Naomi Osaka sees herself as Haitian and Japanese. Not one or the other. A lot of Haitians see her as there's and a lot of Japanese see her as there's. When she is more Haitian as she was around that culture more and has a family school in Haiti and she's there a lot. I am pretty sure I am more AADoS to some but I see myself as both. I don't want to say I like one more than the other. I fukk with both. I am in America so my information and research is mainly based on AADoS but since marriage, I been looking far more at what's going on in Nigeria as for the first time in my life, I know I might actually have to go back more than for family events. That clearly changes how I see my relationship with that land as now I will have stake in it. Even changes my overall take here.

This idea that you can't be both is problematic if you are. Because, that's not how reality works. At least not in my eyes. For you who's not in my shoes, that maybe different but I see myself at AADoS as much as I see myself as Brafian.

So-called AAs. I totally and utterly reject the American label/identity because this is a white supremacist settler state. You can read the article linked in my sig for more historical background, etc. on the term...

My child would have that cultural influence from the new social context they live in. But because neither I nor my wife would be from that nation, our child's ancestors did not participate in creating that culture. We wouldn't be from that ethnic group. Osaka sees herself as Haitian and Japanese because her parents are Haitian and Japanese... she isn't running around saying she's "African-American" (or another term referring to the same ethnic group) merely because she lives in Florida now and maybe listens to music by artists from the group.

I also think you're misunderstanding my point.

I'm not saying a person of mixed ethnicity can't be both groups. (that would be a dumb argument)

I'm saying that a person of African descent from another country, can't move to a different country with a long-standing community of African descent already there, with its own unique historical development, experiences, culture, and struggle, and THEN claim to be of that group or speak for that group merely because they moved there.

I have no ancestral connection to Jamaica (not anytime recently, anyway), Brazil, etc. Never would I assume the right for myself, if I moved to that country, to adopt a Jamaican, Afro-Brazilian, etc. ethnic identity (especially not on equal standing with folks whose ancestors have lived there for hundreds of years!), or to think I could speak as a self-appointed representative or authority for those groups.

I would just be a New Afrikan living in Jamaica, Brazil, etc.
 

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This chick lol. You spanish now. :dead:

B, you know I don't give a fukk about your opinion like that. You cool at times but when you on some bullshyt like you did with Azul, you become illogical. Don't act like your parents didn't give you a privilege life. Don't front for reps. Your grandma did that. Not you. You parents benefited from AA. shyt, gave you a chance to go to a top 10 school and this is how you repay them. By dividing and dap fishing?

I want you to do AfricanAncestry. You probably did 23andme. Typical of Boulenites.
Yes, pay attention. I became "AA- Domincan" earlier itt. :troll:

I am not Boule and I suspect you keep saying that to throw shyt in the game. I don't come from money, you bugging. Ofc my parents benefited from AA- they're the people it was invented for. They couldn't 'give me a chance' to go to a top 10 school bc it wasn't in their power. I earned that by being Lebron in the classroom and Serena on standardized tests. :jawalrus:fukk you talking about??

Now, if you're done ejaculating your personal psychoses all over the thread, I'd like to get back to the topic. :heh:
 

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Yes, pay attention. I became "AA- Domincan" earlier itt. :troll:

I am not Boule and I suspect you keep saying that to throw shyt in the game. I don't come from money, you bugging. Ofc my parents benefited from AA- they're the people it was invented for. They couldn't 'give me a chance' to go to a top 10 school bc it wasn't in their power. I earned that by being Lebron in the classroom and Serena on standardized tests. :jawalrus:fukk you talking about??

Now, if you're done ejaculating your personal psychoses all over the thread, I'd like to get back to the topic. :heh:
You know I said the same thing you just said with a different lingo. The Boule is just a term of expression that you grew up with privilege. Might not be great but it was upper middle class. That's top 10% of the Black population. Keeping it 100%.
 
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