Brazil 2022 Election: Lula WINS 3rd term as president in runoff; Bolsonaro becomes first Brazilian president to lose re-election since 1985!

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Opinion | Bolsonaro Isn’t Preparing for a Coup. He’s Preparing for a Revolution.

To stay in power, Brazil’s president may rely on his most fervent supporters.

www.nytimes.com

 

[Professor Emeritus]

People who think that American precedent doesn't impact behavior in other countries are blind.

And the same goes for people who think that US foreign policy shouldn't be impacted by internal issues in other countries.


A fukked-up Brazil could fukk up literally the entire world (just look what Bolsonaro has been doing to the Amazon already, imagine him with no restraints), and America would bear part of the responsibility.

 

[storyteller]

How the hell did this get into NYT!?

Bolsonaro or Trump described here? Indistinguishable.

Since the beginning of his term, Mr. Bolsonaro has behaved more like a revolutionary leader than a president. In his first month in office, he said that his role was not to build anything, but to “undo” everything. Rather than run a government, he’s tried to disrupt it. He refused to fill roles in crucial regulatory agencies, placed supporters with no technical expertise in high positions, underfunded social programs, punished civil servants for doing their jobs and neglected to provide a coordinated response to the pandemic, which killed over 680,000 Brazilians.

It’s not destruction for its own sake, however. Dismantling the state is how Mr. Bolsonaro galvanizes his supporters. By identifying clear enemies and antagonizing them, he excites his followers and, crucially, enlists their support. Everything he does — decrees, bills, pronouncements, demonstrations, alliances — is framed for the digital infrastructure of YouTube, Telegram and WhatsApp. The more radical his actions and words, the more engagement he generates.

This is crazy. They talk about the left-government weakening social movements, conveniently leaving out how the left-led government ended because its leaders were imprisoned and assassinated...they do mention a more recent political murder, but dodge the word assassination.

Democratic forces are unlikely to fare much better. For all Mr. da Silva’s popularity, left-wingers seem to have lost their capacity to rally the masses. The 13 years of a left-led government that ended in 2016 did much to disperse and weaken social movements, and they have struggled in the years since to recover their dynamism. Demonstrations against Mr. Bolsonaro, for example, have been poorly attended. And political violence is on the rise: A member of Mr. da Silva’s party, for example, was recently killed by a Bolsonaro supporter. People would certainly think twice before going to the streets to defend a Lula victory.

And my favorite part...We cap the article about how what's about to happen isn't a coup, by saying how the last time this happened, it ended in a coup.

The last time Brazil experienced similar political chaos was in 1964, when a military coup removed a democratic government that was trying to carry out progressive reforms. It took just a few hours for the United States, then led by Lyndon Johnson, to recognize the new government of Brazil.

 

[voiture]

Baby Trump. A MAGA facist in Brazil

 

[Serious]

I couldn’t believe what I was reading, because it sounded like a more successful trump.


This is still an opinion piece though.

@Afrodroid how real is the sentiment in this article

 

[mastermind]

How the hell did this get into NYT!?

The NYT has always been a right-wing paper.

 

[storyteller]

The NYT has always been a right-wing paper.

Yeah, but this shyt isn’t just right-wing…it’s stupid. Granted, I guess we saw the same BS with Venezuela’s last coup apologist editorials but this one is next level. The whole article is describing a coup…when trump tried it, they called it a coup this same year.

Where do CNN’s rightwing swing and NYT’s support of South America’s Trump fall on the horse-show theory nonsense the Libs on this board try to profess?

 

[mastermind]

Yeah, but this shyt isn’t just right-wing…it’s stupid. Granted, I guess we saw the same BS with Venezuela’s last coup apologist editorials but this one is next level. The whole article is describing a coup…when trump tried it, they called it a coup this same year.

Where do CNN’s rightwing swing and NYT’s support of South America’s Trump fall on the horse-show theory nonsense the Libs on this board try to profess?

they didn’t call what happened to Evo Morales a coup.

 

[Pressure]

Yeah, but this shyt isn’t just right-wing…it’s stupid. Granted, I guess we saw the same BS with Venezuela’s last coup apologist editorials but this one is next level. The whole article is describing a coup…when trump tried it, they called it a coup this same year.

Where do CNN’s rightwing swing and NYT’s support of South America’s Trump fall on the horse-show theory nonsense the Libs on this board try to profess?

CNN Enters the Post-Jeff Zucker Era. Bye-Bye ‘Breaking News’ Banners. (Published 2022)

Chris Licht, the new CNN chairman, is encouraging a more nuanced approach to coverage. Some at the network are skeptical.

www.nytimes.com

Billionaire John Malone loves Fox News. But he owns a piece of CNN.

CNN is now owned by Warner Brothers Discovery, which wants it to change. So does board member and cable TV giant John Malone.

www.vox.com

ironically, attempting to describe cnn and the NY times as liberal outlets is exactly what the populist right does whenever they don't like one of their stories.

 

[Serious]

CNN Enters the Post-Jeff Zucker Era. Bye-Bye ‘Breaking News’ Banners. (Published 2022)

Chris Licht, the new CNN chairman, is encouraging a more nuanced approach to coverage. Some at the network are skeptical.

www.nytimes.com

Billionaire John Malone loves Fox News. But he owns a piece of CNN.

CNN is now owned by Warner Brothers Discovery, which wants it to change. So does board member and cable TV giant John Malone.

www.vox.com

ironically, attempting to describe cnn and the NY times as liberal outlets is exactly what the populist right does whenever they don't like one of their stories.

CNN isn't a liberal outlet by any means. They try to bothsides it.

MSNBC is the only "liberal" news source. And I don't even watch them.

 

[Pressure]

CNN isn't a liberal outlet by any means. They try to bothsides it.

MSNBC is the only "liberal" news source. And I don't even watch them.

Absolutely. I personally don't follow any of them because they aren't good objective sources for news and the editorializing is the key motive.

They're in it for the money and they just like social media knows being provocative is better than being helpful.

 

[storyteller]

CNN Enters the Post-Jeff Zucker Era. Bye-Bye ‘Breaking News’ Banners. (Published 2022)

Chris Licht, the new CNN chairman, is encouraging a more nuanced approach to coverage. Some at the network are skeptical.

www.nytimes.com

Billionaire John Malone loves Fox News. But he owns a piece of CNN.

CNN is now owned by Warner Brothers Discovery, which wants it to change. So does board member and cable TV giant John Malone.

www.vox.com

ironically, attempting to describe cnn and the NY times as liberal outlets is exactly what the populist right does whenever they don't like one of their stories.

CNN isn't a liberal outlet by any means. They try to bothsides it.

MSNBC is the only "liberal" news source. And I don't even watch them.

Who do yall think reads NYT and watches CNN more? Likely Democrat voters or Republican?

CNN is literally moving right because they don't capture a conservative audience.

They're centrist liberal news sources. shytty news sources? I agree. But they're liberal. Bias checkers, polling of viewership, opinions about them as sources...all of that shyt says they're liberal. The only people who have ever disagreed are progressives. It'd help to claim NYT isn't used by liberals, if you didn't literally link to an NYT article btw

 

[storyteller]

CNN isn't a liberal outlet by any means. They try to bothsides it.

MSNBC is the only "liberal" news source. And I don't even watch them.

CNN and MSNBC have had similar polarity in coverage since around 2015. Fox of course has gone far more extreme.

https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2202197119

The granularity of our measure allows us to offer a richer set of descriptive patterns. First, we can examine the dynamics of polarization by calculating the distance between the weekly means of media bias, comparing each channel with the other channels. As Fig. 2A shows, while the distance between CNN and MSNBC has remained mostly unchanged over time, the relationship between Fox News and the other channels has polarized—growing increasingly distant from one another. This pattern of polarization started a bit earlier between Fox News and CNN than between MSNBC and Fox News, although the polarization accelerated for MSNBC and Fox News starting in 2018. In Fig. 2B, we first plot the distribution of weighted CF scores by channel and over time. While Fox News is always to the right of CNN and MSNBC, CNN and MSNBC become more in sync over time. Between 2011 and 2015, CNN was consistently to the right of MSNBC, which is no longer the case after 2015.

 

[Pressure]

They're centrist liberal news sources.

Centrists liberal

This you?

Let's Put an End to 'Horseshoe Theory' Once and for All

Accusing the left of fascism only helps the real fascists.

psmag.com

As a leftist myself, I find Fish Hook Theory appealing for obvious reasons: It exculpates me and indicts people whose political opinions I dislike.

 

[DEAD7]

People who think that American precedent doesn't impact behavior in other countries are blind.

And the same goes for people who think that US foreign policy shouldn't be impacted by internal issues in other countries.


A fukked-up Brazil could fukk up literally the entire world (just look what Bolsonaro has been doing to the Amazon already, imagine him with no restraints), and America would bear part of the responsibility.

Whats your solution? (if any)