They seem to think that more popular = better singer.
Toni Braxton?
Definitely. Mary was still selling out arenas just last year
Why limit it to just the 90s tho? Mary was bigger in the 2000s. Culturally as far as R&B goes ain’t nobody fukking with her or Kells over the past 30 years. Toni might’ve sold more albums but Toni also crossed over into another market that Mary never did. But if we talking strictly black folks Toni was never on Mary’s level. She’s an icon while Toni is a legend
Remember we are talking culturally
Remember we are talking culturally
Toni and even Mariah was never as big with black folks as Mary. If you wanna talk about the pop charts than sure they were bigger than her. They were getting played on radio stations that Mary wasn’t. You’d never hear Mary in the dentist office but you’d hear them. But that’s not the point. Remember we are talking culturally
Also Mary’s first 3 albums are better than any album Toni or Mariah ever put out. Even Brandy and Monica would give Toni problems so she damn sure ain’t seeing Mary
(before the surgeries
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Sure in her prime Toni had hits that charted higher and albums that sold more. But in the grand scheme of things her music isn’t as timeless as Mary’s and she never resonated with fans as much as Mary. Women worshiped Mary becuz she was more relatable. Toni just made music that people liked. In a Versuz format I’m not sure Toni has one song that Mary couldnt beat. Mary was much more versatile too. She has plenty of traditional R&B shyt to go along with the hip hop influenced stuffIf by culture you mean Hip-Hop or 'urban". Yes. Mary was more in tune with that. But if you mean black. Nope. Mary was not more listened to than Toni IN the 90's by black people. Let's not change history. Toni peak was in the 90's when RnB still existed in the mainstream without Hip-Hop. Toni was not doing feat with rappers left and right but she was in the culture.
Toni first and second album were pure RnB.
Black women play the shyt out of Toni in the 90's. Not many youngin/teeangers because she was not Hip-Hop. But middle age black women and men played that shyt.
Mary was mixing her RnB with Hip-Hop. I'm sure Rosenberg know more about Maty than about Toni.
Toni was not under Toni. She may add more white listeners, but she did not have less black listeners.
When it comes RnB charts, Toni landed 9 top 5 singles in the RnB charts with her two albums and Mary had 11 with her 4 albums. If you ass that Toni sold more cd's.
And Toni was hotter
Mary would smash Toni in a Versuz format. Let’s put it like this. You’ll hear Mary at a cookout but you won’t hear Toni. You’ll hear Toni at the supermarket but you won’t hear Mary. I’m not even sure Toni wouldn’t have trouble putting together 20 songs for something like that
Mary would smash Toni in a Versuz format. Let’s put it like this. You’ll hear Mary at a cookout but you won’t hear Toni. You’ll hear Toni at the supermarket but you won’t hear Mary. I’m not even sure Toni wouldn’t have trouble putting together 20 songs for something like that
And Mary has quite a few joints that would beat Unbreak My Heart. Especially Not Gonna Cry
Yes smashed. Mary even got the feature bag she can dig intoNot gonna cry ain't beating Unbreak my heart.
Toni has sold more albums than Mary, has more top 5 singles than Mary, and he's still touring like Mary but she would be smashed by Mary? Not lose but smashed?