Brand Nubians Lord Jamar: Kanye's Skirt Has No Place in Hip-Hop

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I'm not surprised - but let's keep this on the level - how did you find out? I would imagine he is breaking any number of laws if he is holding himself out to be a psychologist and he isn't.

I read up on him a while back.

He has some points when it comes to "black imagery" whatever the fukk that is, but to the uneducated, he perpetuates a lot of pseudoscience and tries to shame gay people and put a lot of blame for societal ills on them.

Its pretty ridiculous when you get to it. He prefaces his statements with "no disrespect to gays, but...i'm just going to perpetuate this myth that gays are out to ruin the black community"

He also says a lot of factually unsubstantiated things when it comes to psychotropic drug use. Now, I agree with him that we're heavily medicated and that some drugs are bullshyt, but when you listen to him talk, it sounds like all he has done is read wikipedia articles and listen to youtube videos. Hes not remarkably versed in the topics hes talking on.

He also is an HIV/AIDS denier.

He just has this pro-black steez so people cling to everything hes saying.

Hes somewhat of a fraud who seems to have honest intentions, but his credentials don't stand up to the light. Look at them on his website. He has a masters level education in something education related. I saw it a few months ago and wished I had saved it. There is something fishy about his professional credentials

I mean listen to this dumb ass:



He'd get laughed out of every biomedical lab and science class in America.

Dudes stay supporting these pseudo-intellectuals.

NOTHING he said in the video was true.

He lives and thrives by making leaps and bounds in making statements. Yes, the government does bad things. But then that therefore doesn't mean HIV/AIDS selects for black people.

Dude is scientifically unsound.
 
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yall dudes wasting time going back and forth. A man isnt supposed to be wearing no skirt in the sense that asap, kanye and all the these fassy boys wearing em. period. all you nikkas arguing for it in any way are half of fags in my book. miss me with that. nikka be a MAN. i get being irish, a israelite etc. but right now..in these not so united states...throw some slacks, jeans or suit on and man the hell up. cant believe this thread 18 pages smh..

Oh ok. What is a man and what do men do?

This should be interesting. :win:
 

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I read up on him a while back.

He has some points when it comes to "black imagery" whatever the fukk that is, but to the uneducated, he perpetuates a lot of pseudoscience and tries to shame gay people and put a lot of blame for societal ills on them.

Its pretty ridiculous when you get to it. He prefaces his statements with "no disrespect to gays, but...i'm just going to perpetuate this myth that gays are out to ruin the black community"

He also says a lot of factually unsubstantiated things when it comes to psychotropic drug use. Now, I agree with him that we're heavily medicated and that some drugs are bullshyt, but when you listen to him talk, it sounds like all he has done is read wikipedia articles and listen to youtube videos. Hes not remarkably versed in the topics hes talking on.

He also is an HIV/AIDS denier.

He just has this pro-black steez so people cling to everything hes saying.

Hes somewhat of a fraud who seems to have honest intentions, but his credentials don't stand up to the light. Look at them on his website. He has a masters level education in something education related. I saw it a few months ago and wished I had saved it. There is something fishy about his professional credentials

I mean listen to this dumb ass:

The AIDS/HIV Hoax Against Black People - Dr. Umar Abdullah Johnson - YouTube

He'd get laughed out of every biomedical lab and science class in America.

Dudes stay supporting these pseudo-intellectuals.

NOTHING he said in the video was true.

He lives and thrives by making leaps and bounds in making statements. Yes, the government does bad things. But then that therefore doesn't mean HIV/AIDS selects for black people.

Dude is scientifically unsound.

bunch of opinions
 

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actually we aren't. I knew exactly what you were referring to when you stated what you stated about the document and i told you that umar johnson is on facebook. yet you tell me/us i should hit him up, when it is you seeking the info.why couldn't you research this yourself to argue on the subconscious and you not doing any research im wasting my time as well as other who have made reference to this in previous posts.

If you are gonna make claims - you gotta be able to back that chit up.

I asked repeatedly for someone to give one reason why homosexuality was wrong. All I got was the 2 videos from the alleged doctor with his conspiracy theory fantasies.

I went out of my way to lead you to the water of exactly what the argument he was making was and the documents he was relying on.

If you don't want to drink - that's on you.

But don't for a second claim like I'm not doing my research - you gotta do the research and back up your own claims.
 

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bunch of opinions

Opinions?

His stance on HIV/AIDS are opinions? No bro. Hes FACTUALLY wrong.

His stance on the "gay agenda?"

FACTUALLY wrong.

What needs to happen is ya'll just admit ya'll don't want gay dudes getting rights so you won't have to feel like you'll be tempted to take a dikk YOURSELVES.

It says a lot about your security if you're out here making up stories about gays to make yourself feel better.
 

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yall dudes wasting time going back and forth. A man isnt supposed to be wearing no skirt in the sense that asap, kanye and all the these fassy boys wearing em. period. all you nikkas arguing for it in any way are half of fags in my book. miss me with that. nikka be a MAN. i get being irish, a israelite etc. but right now..in these not so united states...throw some slacks, jeans or suit on and man the hell up. cant believe this thread 18 pages smh..

So arguing in support of equality and human rights makes you gay? Was Martin Luther King gay? Malcolm X? Don't get it twisted - this is an equality issue.
 

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yall dudes wasting time going back and forth. A man isnt supposed to be wearing no skirt in the sense that asap, kanye and all the these fassy boys wearing em. period. all you nikkas arguing for it in any way are half of fags in my book. miss me with that. nikka be a MAN. i get being irish, a israelite etc. but right now..in these not so united states...throw some slacks, jeans or suit on and man the hell up. cant believe this thread 18 pages smh..

:heh: @ your username
 

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some you all need to thrown these dogmas and stigmas y'all have on this scholars and do the research for yourselves. i think its one thing to say this or that person is in error and then proceeds with opinions. im not here to argue but yall actually making this thread stale as fukk. PERIOD. because the majority of people have been saying the same thing over and over and over again the imagery alluded to something i think @Shabazz Mathematic Allah said. and just because one person say they believe in something and they might be in error on another point so be it but what are we dialoguing about?
 

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You tell me.

What is gender based clothing?

I'd love to know what it is.

Kanye wears a kilt/skirt/whatever.

What does that say about YOU then?

Are you fiending for male sexual attention? Do you want a dikk in your mouth when you wake up?

pretty self explanatory. do i really need to explain that there are clothes specific for men and clothes specific for women.

how the fukk did you get that "I want male attention" from my post is what I want to know.
 

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If you are gonna make claims - you gotta be able to back that chit up.

I asked repeatedly for someone to give one reason why homosexuality was wrong. All I got was the 2 videos from the alleged doctor with his conspiracy theory fantasies.

I went out of my way to lead you to the water of exactly what the argument he was making was and the documents he was relying on.

If you don't want to drink - that's on you.

But don't for a second claim like I'm not doing my research - you gotta do the research and back up your own claims.

lead me to water? you feeling yourself right now. if anything the guys in this thread have been making points to you for pages and pages and you toss and turn. second you made the statement that you studied psychology and giving the fact that you wasn't able to attest to what @Shabazz Mathematics Allah Said or what @Rakim Allah says raises a huge question mark. you allow this thread to go back and forth with the vast majority repeating themselves. Even that rick ross looking dude made some valid points.

if you were studying the subconscious which has nothing to do with conspiracy theorist etc. you wouldn't have a problem with the subconscious or anything relate to it. you waited until this thread got to damn near 18 pages before you made the statement that you wasn't well-verse as it pertains to the subconscious.

Also i wasn't the one to post the video. you claim to have listen to the video good. however you made the mention of the document. after i made the statement that he is on Facebook you want me to "hit him up" basically wanting me as well as other to do there homework for you. anybody in this thread can see what you are doing and this is one of the reason the cats that were so vocal a couple of pages back have cease responding to this thread.
 
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pretty self explanatory. do i really need to explain that there are clothes specific for men and clothes specific for women.

how the fukk did you get that "I want male attention" from my post is what I want to know.

So does a skirt mean you want a dikk?

I'm just curious.

Cause it says a lot about your self identification if a piece of clothing makes you that insecure.

Ya'll stay trying to impose how OTHERS should dress.
 

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So arguing in support of equality and human rights makes you gay? Was Martin Luther King gay? Malcolm X? Don't get it twisted - this is an equality issue.

I dont give a damn what gay people do fam. Let em marry whatever. They have just as much a right to be miserable like the rest of us. Do you. Do i find homosexuality disgusting? Yep. Do i hate gays. Nahh. the gay agenda is annoying however. And yes there is one. Dont push it on me. And no im not a homophobe cuz i feel that way. Its my opinion and im a fukking human being so i can choose to feel that way. The over the top flamboyant ones give the rest a bad name. Wildin out in the streets etc. God bless america. Salute
 

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So does a skirt mean you want a dikk?

I'm just curious.

Cause it says a lot about your self identification if a piece of clothing makes you that insecure.

Ya'll stay trying to impose how OTHERS should dress.

you're still not making sense whatsoever but let me make this perfectly clear son. I could care less about what people wear. If dudes wanna wear skirts and tight jeans go for it. The only thing I'm concerned about are the people(specifically the children)watching this behavior and thinking it's okay to basically gender switch. It's not natural for a man to be a woman, and a woman to be a man. For you to cosign men wearing skirts and skinny jeans is to cosign that behavior. Again, I'm not out on the street making fun of gays or bashing anybody but at the same time I'm against that shyt.
 

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lead me to water? you feeling yourself right now. if anything the guys in this thread have been making points to you for pages and pages and you toss and turn. second you made the statement that you studied psychology and giving the fact that you wasn't able to attest to what @Shabazz Mathematics Allah Said or what @Rakim Allah says raises a huge question mark. you allow this thread to go back and forth with the vast majority repeating themselves. Even that rick ross looking dude made some valid points.

if you were studying the subconscious which has nothing to do with conspiracy theorist etc. you wouldn't have a problem with the subconscious or anything relate to it. you waited until this thread got to damn near 18 pages before you made the statement that you wasn't well-verse as it pertains to the subconscious.

Also i wasn't the one to post the video. you claim to have listen to the video good. however you made the mention of the document. after i made the statement that he is on Facebook you want me to "hit him up" basically wanting me as well as other to do there homework for you. anybody in this thread can see what you are doing and this is one of the reason the cats that were so vocal a couple of pages back have cease responding to this thread.

I never said I studied psychology. Unless you equate taking classes with "studying". When you say studied psychology - I read that to mean extensive study - as in a major at college or extensive independent study.

You really need to stop saying "subconscious" as if the word alone is proof that homosexuality is wrong. :mindblown:

It was wrong of me to ask you to hit up the alleged doctor as you weren't the one to post the video. BUT - if you intend on relying on anything that he says as support of the proposition that homosexuality is wrong - then it is incumbent on you to back up his claims. He certainly doesn't.

People aren't responding, I assume, because they can't come up with one reason why homosexuality is wrong. Maybe they've never actually engaged in a well-reasoned debate.

Also - you never responded to what I said about homosexuality - do you think there is any harm to anyone from it? If so - what is the harm?
 
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