I see what JB was trying to pull off here.
Basically white dots on a black background gives that reflective optical illusion off rip. So they were tryin to get away with that just doing that. Problem is that the 3m gives this illusion + the reflection which makes it pop. With the flash the black and white blend thats what gives the off black tint.
I put them in comparison with the DT's because a few of us copped them, and we know the red isnt washed out. Its looking faded because the flash is hitting nubuck.
With flash directly on mesh
With flash away from mesh
my bad on the big pic