Boys are disappearing’ from mental health care as signs of depression go undetected

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no need for therapy... life is meaningless .. we live and we die and that's it...

ppl have trouble accepting this so they get depressed
 

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Mad interesting how this thread about boys, young men, and grown men is proceeding versus the one where the teacher says boys need mentors.

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Mad interesting how this thread about boys, young men, and grown men is proceeding versus the one where the teacher says boys need mentors.

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I find it more interesting that this thread isn't equally as packed. Do people only care about boys and men when people who aren't men say they need help?
 

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I've added meaning to my life. It's not easy but it's worth it. Do you have any hobbies, goals perhaps? Do you have things you enjoy for yourself and not anyone else's benefit?

i have hobbies and goals but that's not meaning they are distractions...

If you give your own life meaning, then that meaning ceases to exist when you die. your death is guaranteed, so the meaning you give yourself is essentially worthless, death is simply going to take it away. if death continuously removes meaning over and over again from all humans who ever exist, then the meaning is just arbitrary and useless. it has no value. it doesn't actually mean anything. it doesnt do anything. it's simply an illusion someone tells themselves.
 

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i have hobbies and goals but that's not meaning they are distractions...

If you give your own life meaning, then that meaning ceases to exist when you die. your death is guaranteed, so the meaning you give yourself is essentially worthless, death is simply going to take it away. if death continuously removes meaning over and over again from all humans who ever exist, then the meaning is just arbitrary and useless. it has no value. it doesn't actually mean anything. it doesnt do anything. it's simply an illusion someone tells themselves.
Oh in my belief death isn't the end. I'm a writer who is published a few times over. So my meaning comes from inspiring people who read my work to create. I've already done it and have had people tell me as such.

My religion believes in returns through a bloodline. So if I can inspire my nieces and nephews as well that's all I want.

So again so you have goals?

Isaac Newton is immortal because of what he wrote. He is remembered long after his death as is Malcolm X and Marcus Garvey. As long as people will follow your path nothing is ever meaningless.
 

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Oh in my belief death isn't the end. I'm a writer who is published a few times over. So my meaning comes from inspiring people who read my work to create. I've already done it and have had people tell me as such.

My religion believes in returns through a bloodline. So if I can inspire my nieces and nephews as well that's all I want.

So again so you have goals?

Isaac Newton is immortal because of what he wrote. He is remembered long after his death as is Malcolm X and Marcus Garvey. As long as people will follow your path nothing is ever meaningless.

well I'm a nihilist so i believe in nothing... as long as i stay distracted by chasing goals, hoes, and hobbies... i dont have to think about existential dread.
 

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I find it more interesting that this thread isn't equally as packed. Do people only care about boys and men when people who aren't men say they need help?

I'd say that's part of it, but ol girl being a woman (fat, black, dark, and directed at black men) just kicked in the "agenda"

On topic though, the alarms have been ringing for a while, and it's just started to ring with middle and upper middle class white people - i.e. the majority.

Hanna Rosin published this 14 years ago - The End of Men

But the question has always been, do the powers that be want to do anything about it?
 

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But the question has always been, do the powers that be want to do anything about it?
I don't think this is a question we need to ask. The PTB only care about people consuming and making money for them. You can replace men working and buying things for women working and buying things. Doesn't matter to them..

Better question. Do WE want to do anything about it. We have to assume that those in power have abandoned us and that those who are not us ( especially black men) don't really care about us unless we're useful to them.

So the question is do we want to do anything about it?
 

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I don't think this is a question we need to ask. The PTB only care about people consuming and making money for them. You can replace men working and buying things for women working and buying things. Doesn't matter to them..

Better question. Do WE want to do anything about it. We have to assume that those in power have abandoned us and that those who are not us ( especially black men) don't really care about us unless we're useful to them.

So the question is do we want to do anything about it?

Straight up, the depth of the problem that I see - that's well beyond the capability of concerned citizens and community groups.

My argument is the reason for existential despair is essentially that the vast majority of men are not useful to the society anymore.

What do men do when society has nothing for them to do?
And that same society relentlessly advertises to them, making them want and desire things well beyond their means.
  • Weed and Alcohol and Worse
  • Social Media, Popular Escapist Media, Porn, infinite number of hobbies, and Video Games
  • Gambling, Crypto, Internet Get Rich Scheme of the Week (Social media management Agency!)
  • Crime and other attempts to be a parasite/predator
  • The self development hustle
So what needs to be done, depends on how big you think the problem is.
 
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