Boxing fans...Why do some of you guys hate MMA so much and love to discredit it?

[Master Teacher]

What!? I didn't I say this about MMA!!????
"MMA is mixing techniques from various martial arts that suits the needs for one-on-one, regulated competition. Hence Mixed Martial Arts."

When the heck did I say it was its own fighting style??? I said a million times that it has a VARIETY of fighting styles.

And I disagree about boxing being the core of MMA fighting/training.

You Said boxing is dying and i just proved its not because its used all the time in mma

Boxing is at the core of mma go to an mma gym and find out every mma fighter trains boxing like they do bjj

Mma fighters are in every boxing gym now you dont train so you don't know

 

[George's Dilemma]

Dream doesn't even exist anymore

Ultimate fighter is producing stars anymore like it did at first

Boxing is eay bigger man that's why mma fans feelings are hurt

Compare besping to amir khan and hatton
No crowd is coming over from england like that for a mma match

Its just facts

This subject was on my mind briefly over the weekend. Another one of those Rhonda Rousey>Mayweather stories came up and Dana White was only too glad to oblige the reporter who posed the question to him. When he entertains that question, he discredits himself and his company, and makes MMA look desperate for attention. It doesn't aid their cause that they're lacking on star power right about now. I mean who do they have that's entertaining nowadays other than Jones, Cain, and Rousey? Silva needs to call it a wrap, and the dude that beat him isn't bringing in PPVs. Which I feel kind of bad for dude too, because he legitimately beat Silva both times despite the freak accident (excellant check depending on your bias). Regardless, MMA has definately reached a bit of a lull for the moment. When Dana White looks to promote his company at the expense of Floyd Mayweather's accomplishments and persona, he only damages his own reputation and that of the UFC, proving in fact that boxing is far from dead. If it was, then why is the head of MMA largest company seeking to use the highest paid athlete's fame to bring attention to his company? Who would have a thought, a boxer being the highest paid athlete on the planet? But boxing is dying, so they say.

It's funny though if you look at the comments section of various boxing articles, like clockwork some MMA fan will post how boxing is dying. It's one of those things where you have to question if when MMA fans declare boxing to be dead or dying, are they trying to prove it to boxing fans or are they trying to convince themselves? Besides, the last time I checked, Dana White isn't paying any MMA fan, so I'm surprised at the level of egotism that some MMA fans exude. You get the feeling that many of them have complexes about themselves or something that boxing represents to them. I've often wondered if race plays a role, but I might be guilty of looking too far into it.

 

[krackdagawd]

I don't hate mma I just don't care for it

If you rock with it cool, just don't go around saying boxing is dying because you have a little man complex. Floyd is the highest paid athlete, not boxer, not fighter, athlete.

Dying my ass.

 

[Bawon Samedi]

You Said boxing is dying and i just proved its not because its used all the time in mma

To be more detailed I meant boxing promotion as in entertainment and not the fighting style of boxing in general. Maybe my fault. But again boxing is NOT the only fighting style in MMA and its not the core.

Boxing is at the core of mma go to an mma gym and find out every mma fighter trains boxing like they do bjj

Most MMA gyms I visited/watch I saw them focusing on ground work.

Mma fighters are in every boxing gym now you dont train so you don't know

Its cute how you automatically think you know my personal life.

MMA fighters are in every boxing gym? Your point?

Like I said MMA training incorporates a VARIETY of fighting styles and attacks which includes obvious punching. But how does that make boxing the core of MMA when MMA fighters not only have to worry about jabs/punches but also take downs or submissions. If anything wrestling is the core of MMA training IMO.

 

[The Infamous]

I dislike it when either side bashes the other.

 

[BenArfa]

Boxing is way bigger worldwide than mma. George Groves is fighting Carl froch in front of 80,000 people in the UK and it will probably do one million+ ppv in England. Wladimir Klitschko made 20 million fighting in russia.

 

[BuyandSave]

Dream doesn't even exist anymore

Ultimate fighter is producing stars anymore like it did at first

Boxing is eay bigger man that's why mma fans feelings are hurt

Compare besping to amir khan and hatton
No crowd is coming over from england like that for a mma match

Its just facts

It's arguable, I guess It's definitely not way bigger, though. Thing is, MMA took a pretty big hit with the loss of Anderson and GSP. Those two could outdraw anybody not named Pacquiao or Mayweather. It's whatever, though - I'll watch both regardless of which is bigger.

 

[WhodatWhoadi]

I enjoy MMA, I just like boxing more

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Yea I agree with this..I think MMA has reached the highest point it could and is not going to get any bigger but to hear Dana tell he makes it seem like its bigger then Monday night football in the US and Soccer globally lol.

Alot of these dudes in boxing are making some good money for a sport thats "dying"

 

[Juven]

No it's not. No one on Earth (unless they were shockingly stupid) would take the pennies MMA fighters receive over the millions upon millions boxing champions make. If boxing was easier, these broke MMA fighters would drop MMA and do that instead. Fighters like Shogun, Brock and Junior dos Santos could never become world champions in boxing. The margin of error is nuts. The gap between good and great boxer is astronomical and the amount and level of competition is insane. MMA isn't inherently easier than boxing it's just that in the infant stage it's at guys can get by on sloppy striking and average grappling as long as they have one or two trump cards like KO power or solid take downs (Shane Carwin and Nik Lentz for example). MMA isn't at the point where being complete and near perfect technique wise is a must for tom competition like it is in boxing.

nah boxers arent caking like that. The best of the best are, and the rest are making MMA money.

MMA is harder than boxing. Being a complete fighter is harder than just boxing. Just compare the actual sports and dont add anything else

 

[Juven]

Yea I agree with this..I think MMA has reached the highest point it could and is not going to get any bigger but to hear Dana tell he makes it seem like its bigger then Monday night football in the US and Soccer globally lol.

Alot of these dudes in boxing are making some good money for a sport thats "dying"

No theyre not. The top 1% get paid sure, but the rest of them are making little money. Its not as lucrative anymore.

I don't hate mma I just don't care for it

If you rock with it cool, just don't go around saying boxing is dying because you have a little man complex. Floyd is the highest paid athlete, not boxer, not fighter, athlete.

Dying my ass.

so youre saying its as popular as it was in the 90s? Wheres the heavy weight division? it died a little bit, but its not a big deal as it will be around forever. We still have hands.

 

[Jello Biafra]

Okay, so let's say Pac, Mayweather, and maybe Wlad (I'm being very generous in this case) can outdraw the UFC, but what about the rest? The UFC puts on a PPV pretty much every month...plus The Ultimate Fighter...plus the Fox cards. That's just the UFC, btw - there is also Bellator and M-1 Global in Europe...I think Dream still exists in Japan. This isn't a slight against boxing because I love both sports but I'm not so sure about it being bigger than MMA as a business at this point.

The last UFC on Fox live card (that was considered stacked by most) pulled in 0.8 rating which was the exact same rating for the Stiverne/Arreola fight on ESPN.

 

[BuyandSave]

The last UFC on Fox live card (that was considered stacked by most) pulled in 0.8 rating which was the exact same rating for the Stiverne/Arreola fight on ESPN.

I guess I'm wrong, then.

 

[KyokushinKarateMan]

No wise boxer discredits MMA, nor the most popular MMA brand on the planet known as the UFC, in regards to it's "effectiveness"(if that is in fact what's being argued. If not, my apologies) and/or it's impact and usefulness.

And the same should be said about MMA practicioners.
Although I've never heard of one discrediting boxing, it wouldn't be wise of an MMA practicioner to be on some anti-boxing it's useless type of kick.
Boxing is the heart/and the half of MMA's stand up striking.

 

[Newzz]

And to back my theory.

Mixed Martial Arts – poll shows mainstream support among young men, much less interest from women and older men



Mixed Martial Arts – poll shows mainstream support among young men, much less interest from women and older men | Meadowlands Matters | NorthJersey.com

Ha.

Like I said its mostly my generation that are gravitating to MMA than boxing and a in 10 years MMA could become more popular than boxing.

But again MMA is still new.

Breh, you just posted an article that said that 44% of men between 18-29 years old describe themselves as fans of MMA.


That means that 56% of men between 18-29 years old DO NOT describe themselves as fans of MMA....more than half your generation. So where do you get this idea that MMA will be taking over when the majority of your generation do not call themselves fans of MMA?

No theyre not. The top 1% get paid sure, but the rest of them are making little money. Its not as lucrative anymore.

This is not true at all

Boxing: Alfredo Angulo just made 750k for fighting Canelo Alvarez in March with Angulo being nothing but a gatekeeper at this point and not a real draw in the sport of boxing.

Purses: Canelo Alvarez to make $1.25 million plus revenue, Alfredo Angulo $750K - Bad Left Hook


MMA: Chris Weidman made a TOTAL of 448k for fighting Anderson Silva over the course of 2 matches

UFC 162 salaries: Anderson Silva makes $600,000 in defeat, new champ Weidman earns $48,000 - MMA Fighting
UFC 168 salaries: Anderson Silva leads payroll with $600,000 purse - MMA Fighting


Angulo made 300k+ more in 1 fight than UFC Champion Chris Weidman did in 2 fights with Anderson Silva

 

[Master Teacher]

The thing people don't realize about boxing is, boxing does not need the mainstream
boxing has hardcore fans, because the brand has been established for generations

the whole mma v.s. boxer stems from racism

when UFC first got brought, they marketed the UFC to the white nascar type crowd

there hasn't been a white american boxing star in a long time, Kelly Pavlik might have been one his way if he wasn't embarrassed by Bernard Hopkins and sent on a downward spiral into oblivion.

So white america felt like mma was there sport, even though it wasn't, it's really japan's sport
and boxing was for ******s

Forrest Griffen was making more than Anderson Silva when Anderson Silva was on his incredible winning streak and was even on the cover of the videogames, and he was can status at the point too.
Chuck Liddel was making more as well after he had been Knocked out by Rashard Evans and was virtually a non factor
Bonner is in the hall of fame for crying out loud, and to go back to the James Toney comment someone made, if James Toney would've fought Bonner or somebody like that he would have easily KO'd him, that's why the put him with a great wrestler in the first place.

Now, Dana White is a boxing stan even though he tries to hide it, Joe rogan is a UFC dikk slobber, so he goes over board with the boxing hate. The fans are racist and blacks have dominated boxing for decades now. So the boxing v.s. mma is caused by that.

this is how the mma fans feel, because of who it was initially marketed too when zuffa first brought it

Jon Jones gets BOOED at every fight, and he doesn't show boat in the cage, or talk crazy at weigh-ins.

Anderson Silva was BOOED

Rashard Evan was BOOED

surprise they were all called cocky, arrogant, all the codewords

rampage c00ns it up so he got a pass

only in America is boxing v.s. mma brought up

you notice nobody ever says K-1 is dying, or saw MMA is better than K-1, or MMA is better the freestyle point fighting
or whatever countless combat sports are out there

it always boxing, because it has a racial undertone to it

there was a white boxing star, non-european, but American, this would never be brought up

I remember watching Hopkins and Calzaghe at a bar, and the white dude checking the door got excited when saw Calzaghe's record, but then became unexcited was they showed he was from wales not America

so it matters to the white fan

this is just the underlining truth in the matter
because neither sport effects the other, so the only possible conflict would have be a racial one

Also I think the popularity of the brand of the UFC is declining instead of increasing

Weidman beat Silva twice and still isn't a star, Chuck Liddel was the last white american star they had in the UFC

GSP was a big draw only because of the canadian fans, that's why all his fights were in canada so they could do well at the gate

so the answer to your question is race

MMA fans and talking heads started shytting on boxing for this reason, boxing fans responded by defending their sport, and it as simple as that

if MMA was so popular they're would be no need to draw comparison to boxing

nobody is comparing lacrosse to football, or badminton to tennis

so it is what is