Boiler Room: The Official Stock Market Discussion
Domingo Halliburton
Handmade in USA
may have spoken too soon.
Domingo Halliburton
Handmade in USA
did the FOMC minutes leak or something?
I can't believe after all this time the market is going to freak out like this over a rate hike. Guess it could be just risk-off....equities selling, bonds rallying.
I can't believe after all this time the market is going to freak out like this over a rate hike. Guess it could be just risk-off....equities selling, bonds rallying.
i think the fear is that high lol. my question is...if there is hawkish language implying a rate hike...do emotions cause the market to go down to 2060....? Or is the fear already priced in and anything dovish will send this shyt soaring?
Nobody can know i guess. It's almost go time. 1.5 hrs left
Domingo Halliburton
Handmade in USA
Fed minutes leaked early. Sounds like they're not raising soon.
Should clarify: Time is 'approaching' to raise.
Want 2.5% inflation which we're nowhere near.....could potentially still raise in September but doesn't sound like it.
Sounding dovish....USD selling off.
Should clarify: Time is 'approaching' to raise.
Want 2.5% inflation which we're nowhere near.....could potentially still raise in September but doesn't sound like it.
Sounding dovish....USD selling off.
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yup.
for anyone who wants to know what me and Domingo are going back and forth about
Fed Officials in July Saw Rate Rise Conditions Approaching
Jeanna Smialek Craig Torres
August 19, 2015 — 1:57 PM EDT Updated on August 19, 2015 — 2:06 PM EDT
Federal Reserve officials said last month that while conditions for raising interest rates were approaching, they saw more room for labor market healing and need more confidence that inflation is moving toward their goal, minutes of their meeting show.
Most meeting participants “judged that the conditions for policy firming had not yet been achieved, but they noted that conditions were approaching that point,” according to minutes of the July 28-29 Federal Open Market Committee session, released Wednesday in Washington.
The details come four weeks before the Fed’s September meeting, when most economists forecast the central bank will raise its benchmark interest rate for the first time since 2006. Policy makers say a decision to raise rates will hinge on continued improvement in the labor market and confidence that inflation will move higher.
“Almost all members” indicated that “they would need to see more evidence that economic growth was sufficiently strong and labor markets conditions had firmed enough for them to feel reasonably confident that inflation would return to the Committee’s longer-run objective over the medium term,” the minutes show. “Members” refers to voting participants in the meeting.
Further Improvement
Officials last month left the benchmark federal funds rate near zero and said that it will be appropriate to begin tightening policy once they have seen “some further improvement” in the labor market and are reasonably confident that inflation will move up toward their 2 percent objective. The addition of the modifier “some” was the only change to their language on conditions that would warrant a rate increase.
According to 77 percent of economists in a Bloomberg survey taken Aug. 7-12, the Fed will act at the Sept. 16-17 FOMC. The market is less confident, with investors on Wednesday forecasting a 40 percent chance the Fed will tighten next month, based on pricing of federal funds futures contracts. The odds assume the effective rate will rise to 0.375 percent after liftoff.
The labor market has shown continued progress since the FOMC meeting, with U.S. firms adding 215,000 jobs in July compared with the year-to-date monthly average of 211,000.
Inflation, by contrast, has remained subdued. The Fed’s preferred gauge hasn’t been above the committee’s 2 percent goal since April 2012 and rose 0.3 percent in the year through June. Another inflation measure, the consumer price index, rose less than forecast in July, a government report showed today.
Wages Subdued
The July minutes showed Fed policy makers raising questions about what it would take to get inflation back to their target. Rising demand for labor “still appeared not to have led to a broad-based firming of wage increases,” the minutes said.
“It was noted that considerable uncertainty remained about when wages might begin to accelerate and whether that development might translate into increased price inflation,” the minutes said.
Still, “most” officials expected that downward pressure on inflation from declines in energy prices and a stronger dollar “would prove to be temporary.”
A 30 percent plunge in oil since its closing peak in June is holding inflation down, along with a slowdown in China that is reducing demand for metals and other commodities. A stronger dollar is also keeping inflation at bay by reducing prices of imported goods.
Meeting participants “generally viewed the risks to the outlook for domestic economic activity and the labor market as nearly balanced,” according to the minutes released today, although many continued to see some downside risks arising from economic and financial developments abroad.
The People’s Bank of China devalued the yuan last week, a move that spurred speculation that the nation’s economy may be more sluggish than expected. Weaker global growth could hurt the U.S. economy by denting demand for its exports.
After all the fukkery its inconclusive whether or not the market will go up/down yet. I'm thinking back up to the teens for the spy though..just waiting for a catalyst to go in.
I've been right so far when I said it should trade in the 207-210 range or whatever I said
I've been right so far when I said it should trade in the 207-210 range or whatever I said
Domingo Halliburton
Handmade in USA
Any particular reason Kelloggs has been killing shyt lately?
It's overbought and all signs are pointing to a pullback. I might have to get puts
"confirmed currency neutral guidance on Aug. 4"
where else do they sell? You know currencies have moved against them.
It does look ready to fall.