Market is open so I don't want to flood this thread with Tesla/self-driving posts. We can take it another thread.
But to answer you, Waymo is ahead simply because they actually have a self driving car
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Driverless vehicle taking people from point A to point B on public roads.
For Waymo I said, unfortunately, because they've been taking a very, very long time to figure out Arizona roads, so I agree with you that at this pace New York, London and Rome will take an eternity.
But at least they have a working system they can build on and my hope is also that Waymo is being overly cautious (because of Uber and Tesla fukkery) so that they'll be able to speed up the process eventually.
I don't believe much of that Tesla's driver data is useful at all. First of all most of their time recently was spent just trying to catch back up to where they were with Mobileye, then they've been putting in new computer HW3 even though according to Elon the one they had in there in 2016 was fully capable.
What Elon is saying and what Andrej Karpathy (head of AI and Autopilot at Tesla) is saying is very different. If they're rewriting neural network and putting in new hardware I highly doubt they can make use of billions of driver data.