Blow it up - Raptors 2018 OFFSEASON THREAD

[MikelArteta]

I'm not blaming Fred , dude had a dislocated shoulder and still gutted it out was one of the few plus players when he was out there.

If this was hockey he'd be revered till he croaked in this city.

 

[Miggs]

Casey will get fired, but thats about it. MLSE has never made more money.

ACC will still sell-out because watching NBA basketball with a good regular season team > nothing.

You think if they bring back this exact team and Casey next year they will sell out ? I definitely think ur about to lose season tickets from ur base and other ticket revenues going into next year....Like @trick said you have to sell hope and you cant sell hope with this roster as is i dont think...Thats why im positive at the very least Casey goes....that will then be the hope they sell,different voice,tougher coach more accountability.

You cannot bring back this same team and Casey next year,its already hurt ur credibility but it will probably hurt ur ticket sales and other revenues...

 

[The Fire]

Fred vanvleet was not the culture change and our season did not depend on him. These idiots are looking to blame everyone but the management

 

[Yung Pharaoh]

 

[Auger]

I think the casual fanbase will be hip to game. American broadcasters will not hold their tongue in regards to the reality of the team. If the casual fan realizes it's futile then when will it affect support?

 

[Box Factory]

If Stackhouse isn't coaching the Raptors next year, then they fukked up.

Ideal scenario imo for next year is Stackhouse coaching with the bench mob starting alongside OG. He's already done a great job coaching and developing prospects in the dleague.

I highly doubt they move all the veterans though. Probably just fire Casey, move one or two guys and we end up a worse version of the current team

 

[trick]

Fred knows

 

[MikelArteta]

Fred knows

The bench stepped up to me game 1 and game 3 it was the bench that both got them leads but xasey went back to his starters and they choked

 

[trick]

The bench stepped up to me game 1 and game 3 it was the bench that both got them leads but xasey went back to his starters and they choked

They just have to move on from DeMar. I think you can live with Lowry and Ibaka's contract since they're gone in two years, but JV is too slow. DeMar's contract is awful, they gotta ship him out the first chance they get as long as they don't take back a similarly bad contract. We've said it for years, he's a ball stopper who can't shoot and can't defend, and needs a lot of shots to get going. You can't win with that

 

[MikelArteta]

The only way DeMar gets traded is if it's to LA, so thry can sell it as raps helped him.out for him to be close to his kids and family.

Beisdes that he's going nowhere

Tannenbaum won't sign off on it, dude saw stoudamire, Bosh, Carter all leave and DeMar actually wants to stay.

They just have to move on from DeMar. I think you can live with Lowry and Ibaka's contract since they're gone in two years, but JV is too slow. DeMar's contract is awful, they gotta ship him out the first chance they get as long as they don't take back a similarly bad contract. We've said it for years, he's a ball stopper who can't shoot and can't defend, and needs a lot of shots to get going. You can't win with that

 

[Patrick Kane]

 

[Auger]

Tobias Harris, even Jimmy Butler

 

[trick]

 

[ajnapoleon]

 

[hazardous]

Don't blow it up. Blowing it up isn't a guarantee; remember those dark years with Kevin O'Neill and Sam Mitchell's first two seasons.

Ironically, Lowry performed better than DeRozan in the CLE series, but I'd still trade him while his value is high. I'd also ship off Ibaka before JV, but I don't think any team will want to touch his contract.

I'd stick with Casey for one more year. I don't think any team has fired a coach after being the #1 seed in their conference.