Bloomberg: More Stop and Frisk

[the next guy]

NYC Mayor: Blacks and Latinos Not Stopped, Frisked Enough, Whites Too Much | NBC New York

Mayor Bloomberg said Friday that black and Latino New Yorkers are not stopped and frisked enough, while whites are stopped too much, when compared to the racial breakdown of crime suspects.


Bloomberg spent several minutes on the topic during his radio show Friday, and was making a point about how news organizations wrongly cast the debate as one about blacks and Latinos being stopped more than whites.

"They just keep saying, 'Oh it's a disproportionate percentage of a particular ethnic group. That may be, but it's not a disproportionate percentage of those who witnesses and victims describe as committing the murder," Bloomberg said. "In that case, incidentally, I think we disproportionately stop whites too much and minorities too little. It’s exactly the reverse of what they say. I don’t know where they went to school but they certainly didn’t take a math course. Or a logic course."

@Gravity

 

[Gravity]

NYC Mayor: Blacks and Latinos Not Stopped, Frisked Enough, Whites Too Much | NBC New York




@Gravity

White People Stopped By New York Police Are More Likely To Have Guns Or Drugs Than Minorities

By Aviva Shen on May 22, 2013 at 12:20 pm

(Credit: AP)
During the just-concluded trial on the New York Police Department’s stop-and-frisk program, the city argued that officers’ disproportionate targeting of black and Latino New Yorkers was not due to racial profiling but because each stopped individual was doing something suspicious at the time. The data, however, tells a different story: weapons and drugs were more often found on white New Yorkers during stops than on minorities, according to the Public Advocate’s analysis of the NYPD’s 2012 statistics.

White New Yorkers make up a small minority of stop-and-frisks, which were 84 percent black and Latino residents. Despite this much higher number of minorities deemed suspicious by police, the likelihood that stopping an African American would find a weapon was half the likelihood of finding one on a white person.

• The likelihood a stop of an African American New Yorker yielded a weapon was half that of white New Yorkers stopped. The NYPD uncovered a weapon in one out every 49 stops of white New Yorkers. By contrast, it took the Department 71 stops of Latinos and 93 stops of African Americans to find a weapon.

• The likelihood a stop of an African American New Yorker yielded contraband was one-third less than that of white New Yorkers stopped. The NYPD uncovered contraband in one out every 43 stops of white New Yorkers. By contrast, it took the Department 57 stops of Latinos and 61 stops of African Americans to find contraband.

It’s unlikely that the appropriate lesson to take from these findings is that stops of white people should increase because they are more likely to carry weapons and drugs. Rather, they suggest that police are excessively targeting minorities. Officers may be netting more successful stops of white New Yorkers because they are only likely to stop a white person when they actually suspect that person of committing a crime. Considering one officer’s testimony that superiors explicitly directed him to target young black men, minorities are judged by a much more flexible definition of “reasonable suspicion.”

And this loose approach to the Constitution’s ban on unlawful searches and seizures is part of a larger pattern of African-Americans being targeted by police. In one incident an officer cuffed and detained a 13-year-old African American boy, the son of a former cop, for six hours because he allegedly reached into his pants’ waistband. Other cops punched and pepper-sprayed a 38-year-old veteran who was discussing Memorial Day plans with friends on a street corner. Yet another black man reported being stopped and arrested 4 times in one year on criminal trespass charges later dismissed by a judge.

In general, stop-and-frisk has proven to be remarkably ineffective; nearly 89 percent of all stops result in no charges. The city has also had to settle a surging number of civil rights lawsuits against police to the tune of $22 million in one year.

White People Stopped By New York Police Are More Likely To Have Guns Or Drugs Than Minorities | ThinkProgress

 

[the next guy]

White People Stopped By New York Police Are More Likely To Have Guns Or Drugs Than Minorities

By Aviva Shen on May 22, 2013 at 12:20 pm

(Credit: AP)
During the just-concluded trial on the New York Police Department’s stop-and-frisk program, the city argued that officers’ disproportionate targeting of black and Latino New Yorkers was not due to racial profiling but because each stopped individual was doing something suspicious at the time. The data, however, tells a different story: weapons and drugs were more often found on white New Yorkers during stops than on minorities, according to the Public Advocate’s analysis of the NYPD’s 2012 statistics.

White New Yorkers make up a small minority of stop-and-frisks, which were 84 percent black and Latino residents. Despite this much higher number of minorities deemed suspicious by police, the likelihood that stopping an African American would find a weapon was half the likelihood of finding one on a white person.

• The likelihood a stop of an African American New Yorker yielded a weapon was half that of white New Yorkers stopped. The NYPD uncovered a weapon in one out every 49 stops of white New Yorkers. By contrast, it took the Department 71 stops of Latinos and 93 stops of African Americans to find a weapon.

• The likelihood a stop of an African American New Yorker yielded contraband was one-third less than that of white New Yorkers stopped. The NYPD uncovered contraband in one out every 43 stops of white New Yorkers. By contrast, it took the Department 57 stops of Latinos and 61 stops of African Americans to find contraband.

It’s unlikely that the appropriate lesson to take from these findings is that stops of white people should increase because they are more likely to carry weapons and drugs. Rather, they suggest that police are excessively targeting minorities. Officers may be netting more successful stops of white New Yorkers because they are only likely to stop a white person when they actually suspect that person of committing a crime. Considering one officer’s testimony that superiors explicitly directed him to target young black men, minorities are judged by a much more flexible definition of “reasonable suspicion.”

And this loose approach to the Constitution’s ban on unlawful searches and seizures is part of a larger pattern of African-Americans being targeted by police. In one incident an officer cuffed and detained a 13-year-old African American boy, the son of a former cop, for six hours because he allegedly reached into his pants’ waistband. Other cops punched and pepper-sprayed a 38-year-old veteran who was discussing Memorial Day plans with friends on a street corner. Yet another black man reported being stopped and arrested 4 times in one year on criminal trespass charges later dismissed by a judge.

In general, stop-and-frisk has proven to be remarkably ineffective; nearly 89 percent of all stops result in no charges. The city has also had to settle a surging number of civil rights lawsuits against police to the tune of $22 million in one year.

White People Stopped By New York Police Are More Likely To Have Guns Or Drugs Than Minorities | ThinkProgress

It's just gross breh
Bloomberg:
The reality is that of over half a million stops in 2012, people of color made up 87 percent. The year prior, 168,126 black men ages 14 to 24 were stopped and frisked, although only 158,406 young black men lived in the city — that's 106 percent of the population. And as City Councilman Brad Lander noted today, "Math for @MikeBloomberg: Of those stopped, 58% of blacks & Latinos were frisked. Only 44% of whites. But whites have guns twice as often."

 

[Camammal]

which is why i left that shythole ny a log time ago...fukk bloomberg

 

[radio rahiem]

if weiner is true to his word and crushes s&f then

 

[Gravity]

It's just gross breh
Bloomberg:
The reality is that of over half a million stops in 2012, people of color made up 87 percent. The year prior, 168,126 black men ages 14 to 24 were stopped and frisked, although only 158,406 young black men lived in the city — that's 106 percent of the population. And as City Councilman Brad Lander noted today, "Math for @MikeBloomberg: Of those stopped, 58% of blacks & Latinos were frisked. Only 44% of whites. But whites have guns twice as often."

People need to wake up. These people aren't even being covert with the shyt anymore. The mayor of a major city just came out and endorsed racial profiling despite evidence saying that it doesn't work stating him right in the face.

 

[Julius Skrrvin]

The east coast is such a progressive place!

 

[the next guy]

The east coast is such a progressive place!

In fairness NYC is seeing Canada right now in in terms of crime. It's working, it does not make it right.

 

[Blackgate]

just confirmed that stop and frisk is pure racism...

"They just keep saying, 'Oh it's a disproportionate percentage of a particular ethnic group. That may be, but it's not a disproportionate percentage of those who witnesses and victims describe as committing the murder," Bloomberg said.

murder victims describing their attacker????--:huhwhut:...it is obvious that the nypd disregard proper investigating methods when the alleged perpetrator is black or brown...it is like the central park jogger case where they randomly picked some kids and made them responsible for the crime...they gon solve or prevent murder with random and arbitrary stop and frisk????--...

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

The east coast is such a progressive place!

Yeah all the racism is in the south and midwest, which of course is uniform across the entire regions...I mean there's literally no difference between Fort Lauderdale, FL and Cutoffa******sballs, AL. They're exactly the same.

*walks along the Riverwalk with my friends*

*doesn't get stopped and frisked for being brown*



*puts keys in front door*

*doesn't get shot 41 times by cops*



*sits in car behind strip club*

*doesn't get shot 50 times by cops*



*walks through Metro Park at night*

*doesn't get arrested and framed for rape*



@88m3

 

[Kings County]

lmaooo im from new york and trust me 90% of the people with guns and drugs are black people lets be real here stop tryna make it racist its factual and statically accurate. in my young days when i was carrying heat id be scared to death some days i wouldnt risk it because i didnt wanna get stopped and frisked so trust me it works

 

[The Real]

The only candidate who wants to deal with Stop and Frisk AND ban racial profiling:

 

[NYC Rebel]

In fairness NYC is seeing Canada right now in in terms of crime. It's working, it does not make it right.

This is nonsense. Crime was coming down minus Stop and Frisk.

 

[88m3]

The Biggest Liberal Protest Of 2013 In 35 Photos & Video

By Scott Keyes on Jun 28, 2013 at 9:00 am

RALEIGH, North Carolina — To little national fanfare, the largest liberal protest of 2013 took place on Monday this week in North Carolina, with thousands in attendance and hundreds getting arrested.

For weeks, faith leaders in the Tar Heel State have gathered every Monday to give voice to women, the poor, and other groups under attack by the Republican-held legislature. (To learn more about how Republicans won back the North Carolina statehouse for the first time since the Civil War, read Ian Millhiser’s recent piece “How One Millionaire Is Turning North Carolina Into A Tea Party Utopia”.)

This week’s Moral Monday protest, which is being organized by the North Carolina NAACP with support from groups like the Advancement Project and the AFL-CIO, was the largest to date with more than 3,000 people in attendance.

Before the protest kicked off, it began in what many say is the most segregated place in American society: church pews.

But that wasn’t the case this Monday as approximately 250 people — closely split between black and white — filled the pews at Pullen Baptist Church to sing songs and pray together before the evening protest. Though the event was organized by the state NAACP, along with the Advancement Project, the majority of participants were white, and most were past or nearing retirement (if they could afford to do so).

Volunteers fashioned homemade green strips from loose fabric, which were given to anyone willing to be arrested that night. Anyone who had already been arrested was discouraged from doing so again because the charge was significantly weightier for repeat offenders.

Rev. Dr. William Barber, president of the North Carolina NAACP and leader of the Moral Monday protests, set the tone for the day during his invocation. “How do you say cutting 500,000 people’s health care is the moral thing to do?” he asked, accusing Republican lawmakers of being closet liberals because “they liberally ignore most of the Bible.” “When you hurt the poor, you are not faithfully executing the constitution,” Barber continued, to thunderous applause.

Everyone you see in this picture standing behind Barber was arrested Monday evening. Read our previous article on their perspective shortly before getting arrested.

One unemployed man named Lee Creighton took the mic and explained the plight of the unemployed in North Carolina. Next week, 70,000 North Carolinians will lose federal extended unemployment benefits because of a new state law that reduces the maximum benefit an individual can receive. North Carolina is the only state to reject these federal benefits, which come at no cost to the state.

Officials estimated at least 3,000 people turned out, the largest Moral Monday protest yet.

People brought with them a variety of protest signs.

Women’s health is a major focal point in the legislature as state lawmakers attempt to add new restrictions to abortion clinics and make it more difficult for women who want an abortion to get one.

GOP lawmakers have largely dismissed the protestors, save for a few insults like Sen. Thom Goolsby (R) calling them “Moron Mondays” and Gov. Pat McCrory (R) accusing the protestors of not being from North Carolina. Many North Carolinians in attendance Monday took umbrage at these statements.

Jim Crow-style laws are being considered in the legislature, including a strict voter ID bill and other legislation to limit early voting, make it harder for people to register, and penalize parents of student voters.

McCrory and the legislature rejected an expansion of Medicaid in their state, despite the fact that the federal government would be footing the bill. As a result, 500,000 poor North Carolinians will not receive health insurance.

And plenty other creative signs.

Hundreds of protestors cleared a tunnel walk towards the state legislative building to cheer on those who would be going in.

June 24 protestors were led by 92-year-old Rosanell Eaton, who had already suffered under Jim Crow discrimination growing up. When she tried to vote at age 21, she was required (without forewarning) to repeat the preamble to the Constitution in order to register, a feat she accomplished on the spot. As her daughter Armenta explained, “She’s seen the good, bad, and the ugly. Now she’s seeing the ugly again.”

Others marched in behind Eaton, among hugs and handshakes and “thank you!” chants from the crowd, to be arrested.

Only a few hundred protestors could fit inside the building. Orders of magnitude more waited outside.

Inside, people chanted, sang songs, and gave speeches.

Reserve boxes of plastic handcuffs were readied by officers.

After ten minutes or so, an officer stepped in to tell the crowd to disperse and leave. “If you do not, you will be arrested,” he said as the crowd cheered.

Arrests begin.

There was a mutual respect between protestors and police; one reason being that public employees unions, including police officers, do not have collective bargaining rights in North Carolina, so Moral Monday protestors are airing their grievances as well. According to one protestor at the detention center, one officer even thanked those who were arrested because they were helping him get more overtime pay. In rare instances where some protestors started to yell at officers, Barber stepped in to stop and remind them who the true opponents were.

ThinkProgress spoke with one officer who was effusive in his praise of protestors, saying they are “very nice,” “orderly,” and “great to deal with.” “It’s hard to arrest people like this,” he said. “You want to arrest the bad guys.”

Here are people who arrested on Monday being loaded onto the inmate bus.

Outside, protestors cheered on those who were arrested and being loaded onto the bus, especially when officers carried walkers and canes for the elderly onto the bus.

Cheers continued as the first bus drove off.

After it departed, the crowd began chanting, “you’re gonna need another bus ’cause baby there are more of us.”

Eaton was released from the detention center at around 9pm as well-wishers cheered her on.

Many protestors returned to the Pullen Baptist Church afterward for a potluck where they traded stories and began to think about what more they can do next week.

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Sums up every state in the south and mid west and this is in the liberal enclave you love to point out.
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[Box Cutta]

He's a racist piece of shyt, so it's no surprise. fukk that kike straight to hell.