Blockbuster Bubble finna pop

[MartyMcFly]

There he goes again..."I'm not doing anything, I swear! "

I'm not playing these little kid/idiot games.

What's going on? Is fukkery a foot?

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

The problem is, Blockbusters are how they make money now. It's not even about the quality of the blockbusters but just trying to figure out what the audience wants to see. Audiences are fickle. Blockbusters take up the most real estate in the movie theater and audiences have already decided they don't want to go see smaller movies in the theater. I know people who decide whether something is worth seeing in a theater or waiting for Netflix and mostly, the Netflix movies are the ones without special effects.

Godzilla isn't a bad flick; just audiences don't care. Even if you look at the performance of the 2014 one over time, it dropped week after week. Men in Black? The same thing. Men in black 2 underperformed domestically compared to the first and the third followed suit.

Audiences say they want new ideas but when they get them, they don't go see them lol. Unless its John Wick, and that's a franchise that bubbled since its first installment and has kept the momentum going. All of this shyt is guesswork. The guy who wrote Dr. Stranger said on his podcast that Hollywood, despite what the internet thinks, isn't in the business of making bad movies or movies that don't work. They're just trying to throw shyt against the wall to see what sticks. Some stuff works, some stuff doesn't. And right now, just like a lot of moments in history, Hollywood is trying to figure out what the audience wants. And even as an audience member, I gotta say we're fickle as fukk and I don't envy the job of any exec trying to figure us out right now

I spoke on the horror genre. People working within that genre have shown that you can get new ideas out there and have people get into those ideas but you can also throw nostalgia out there and do very well if you treat the original materials with respect. So you see a franchise like The Conjuring rise to what it is now... you see IT have major success because they took their time with it and did well, you see Peele's movies do very well because they are fresh ideas they open the genre and advance it in interesting ways..

We aren't seeing that with action outside of John Wick. We aren't seeing that with comedy at all. And the thriller/drama genre has dried up. Not a lot of new ideas out there. People will come out if they feel it's worthwhile.

 

[MartyMcFly]

I spoke on the horror genre. People working within that genre have shown that you can get new ideas out there and have people get into those ideas but you can also throw nostalgia out there and do very well if you treat the original materials with respect. So you see a franchise like The Conjuring rise to what it is now... you see IT have major success because they took their time with it and did well, you see Peele's movies do very well because they are fresh ideas they open the genre and advance it in interesting ways..

We aren't seeing that with action outside of John Wick. We aren't seeing that with comedy at all. And the thriller/drama genre has dried up. Not a lot of new ideas out there. People will come out if they feel it's worthwhile.

Less money on horror therefore studios will let you do more. The bigger the check the less of a risk they want to take. That’s why.

 

[Bryan Danielson]

What's going on? Is fukkery a foot?

Not a damn thing

Lies, fickleness, and overreaction. But shyt all good now

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

Less money on horror therefore studios will let you do more. The bigger the check the less of a risk they want to make. That’s why.

Yeah but breh the same can be said for Comedies and action, John Wick type movies are probably no more than $30M budget, comedies got outta hand with Sandler and his crew somehow making movies that cost damn near $100M but you can make comedies for dirt cheap too.

 

[MartyMcFly]

Yeah but breh the same can be said for Comedies and action, John Wick type movies are probably no more than $30M budget, comedies got outta hand with Sandler and his crew somehow making movies that cost damn near $100M but you can make comedies for dirt cheap too.

We get new and different comedies every year. People have decided those movies are Netflix movies now though. Booksmart came and went. And by reviews, which this site lives and dies by, it’s a great flick. But no one went to see it. Something like girls trip doesn’t happen all the time but when it does it’s lightning in a bottle

 

[MartyMcFly]

Just saying. I don't have the exact #s in front of me. And don't forget all those articles last year about theater attendance being at its lowest since the early 90s. If people only show up for blockbusters and those are starting to flop the future looks bleak

 

[MartyMcFly]

And Star Wars. Solo was a spin off so it flopping was meh. But if the real Star Wars flops this year then

Also, numbers wise, Solo wasn't a flop. It had a mild critical reception so reception is it flopped but it made money.

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

Also, numbers wise, Solo wasn't a flop. It had a mild critical reception so reception is it flopped but it made money.

It made a little money but they lost money on that joint breh, they redid damn near the entire movie.. the actual cost is estimated to be

 

[Mr. McDowell]

The movie, regardless of genre, has to appeal to the international market. In some cases, 75% of your recoup-able investment is coming from non-USA/Canada markets. Men In Black was a complete misfire. Sony and Paramount are in the most precarious positions primarily because outside of Spiderman and Mission Impossible, neither has any other "reliable" franchises. Can Sony get away with Jumanji part 6? I have no idea.

 

[MartyMcFly]

It made a little money but they lost money on that joint breh, they redid damn near the entire movie.. the actual cost is estimated to be

That's fine but as far as a flop, as in something that tanked at the box office? Nah it wasn't that. I'm not defending the flick, just saying if we're talking facts here, lets get them all out

 

[MartyMcFly]

The movie, regardless of genre, has to appeal to the international market. In some cases, 75% of your recoup-able investment is coming from non-USA/Canada markets. Men In Black was a complete misfire. Sony and Paramount are in the most precarious positions primarily because outside of Spiderman and Mission Impossible, neither has any other "reliable" franchises. Can Sony get away with Jumanji part 6? I have no idea.

And of course they're dusting off Ghostbusters again next year. This is a sink or swim world now with franchises being the stars instead of stars being the stars. We've talked about that before. Chris Hemsworth is one of the biggest stars in the world. But he couldn't carry Men in Black. Lucky for them they have spider-man dropping in a couple weeks. And something else that's not raining a bell at the moment. But Disney/Fox takes up all the oxygen in the room, which is another issue with them merging. There are less established IPs to go around and as we can see, its tough to create one from scratch. At least tougher than it was 20 years ago

 

[Rekkapryde]

Also, numbers wise, Solo wasn't a flop. It had a mild critical reception so reception is it flopped but it made money.

yes it was. 275 million budget, recouped 390 mill in theaters. You usually need to double production to make profit. Sad part is that it wasn't a bad movie. But TLJ soured it for a lot of people, me included.

 

[Rekkapryde]

Damn MIBI budget was only 110 mill? Too bad it won't even make over 200 mill to recoup.

Aladdin at 4x it's budget. Will Smith haters

 

[MartyMcFly]

yes it was. 275 million budget, recouped 390 mill in theaters. You usually need to double production to make profit. Sad part is that it wasn't a bad movie. But TLJ soured it for a lot of people, me included.

Fair enough. My b.

But I fukked with last Jedi. My issue with Solo is it felt like a cosplay Star Wars movie. There were some bright spots to it but it was just very mediocre and didn't elicit any emotion from me and didn't seem to go for any emotion on the screen minus the sign posts (Han meeting chewie, Han and lando, the falcon, etc)