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Most Black women do not declare themselves to be "feminists." However, for the ones that do...

If Black feminists are fighting for "gender equality," exactly whom are they fighting to be equal to?

Is it white men who serve as their "end zone" in their pursuit of equality?

If Black women currently outpace Black men in almost every meaningful life metric (education, employment,
head-of-household status, life expectancy, community consumer spending power, lower incarceration and
crime victim rates, etc.), becoming equal to Black men would translate to them receding in life as a group,
not rising.

Who truly occupies "privileged" status in the "Black girls/women-outpace-boys/men" dynamic?

Why are Black folks in general, so comfortable with this version of inequality?

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And that's black women fault?

What do you want them to do?

I don't get it. These women work hard, make less than their white peers yet you create this jealous aura of "privilege."

I pray you fukkbois dont have daughters. It's not black women fault that men were raised in a manner where we over relied on the manufacturing sector while telling our daughters to go to school if they don't want to be a domestic worker. Culturally, that's on us. There was a time where black men could purchase a home and raise their family on a factory job salary. So school wasn't as stressed to black males coming up as opposed to black girls. When those jobs left, it impacted us more while our girls were still the one pushed into schools.

This isn't PRIVLEGE!! This is friggin economics and our inability to adjust. Go read William Julius Wilson "When Work Disappears." This has been discussed and talked about for YEARS. "Underlying accelerated ghetto joblessness has been the US transition from a manufacturing to a service economy--a development that particularly devastated urban blacks"
Funny thing is....it's now no longer just a "black only" problem. It's spilling over into a national issue.



Have you not seen these entitled mid western men bytching about wanting their jobs to come back because they can no longer support their families while their wives are outpacing them?
Trump played on that.

How off are you dudes in here?

Don't put this shyt on "black female privilege." That is the biggest CROCK of shyt there is.

I honestly don't believe many of you who claim to care for black people are very read on black people.
 
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Still find it crazy how all this Nate Parker rape stuff blew up AFTER BOAN like he wasn't around years before that movie came out. A movie about Nat Turner comes out at a time where racial tension is supposedly really high, and people are supposed to be so woke and all of a sudden it gets trash reviews and bombs at the theatre? I still find that weird. Afflek just gets to skate by, drop his movie, and win Oscars.. no big deal. We are living in crazy times indeed.
 

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And that's black women fault?

Where was it stated that this "Black women rising" gender inequity is the "fault" of Black women?

Please feel free to cut-and-paste that "fault" accusation in your reply.

I don't get it. These women work hard, make less than their white peers yet you create this jealous aura of "privilege."

Black men generally do not resort to the empty analysis of who is, or who is not "privileged."

That jargon-speak is left to self-described "feminists" and student-activists.

Yet, there are Black feminists who rail at the "privilege" of Black men vs Black women,
when the current household structure leadership composition of the community, the data,
and Newsweek magazine covers simply do not support their claim.


I pray you fukkbois dont have daughters.

Many of us do have daughters who do not buy into the "Sistas got to do it for themselves" propaganda
that has festered in our community for decades.


There was a time where black men could purchase a home and raise their family on a factory job salary.

Don't feminists refer to this structure as the "oppressive patriarchy" for women? Hasn't the social fight been
for 50 years to eradicate this family formation, no matter the race involved?


Have you not seen these entitled mid western men bytching about wanting their jobs to come back because they can no longer support their families while their wives are outpacing them?
Trump played on that.

And who did the majority of those white women vote for, in support of their unemployed white husbands,
AND notwithstanding the candidacy of the first white female nominee for POTUS?

Those white women voted for Donald Trump. They know full well if their HUSBANDS lose it, they lose it, too.

That is common sense.
 

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And that's black women fault?

What do you want them to do?

I don't get it. These women work hard, make less than their white peers yet you create this jealous aura of "privilege."

I pray you fukkbois dont have daughters. It's not black women fault that men were raised in a manner where we over relied on the manufacturing sector while telling our daughters to go to school if they don't want to be a domestic worker. Culturally, that's on us. There was a time where black men could purchase a home and raise their family on a factory job salary. So school wasn't as stressed to black males coming up as opposed to black girls. When those jobs left, it impacted us more while our girls were still the one pushed into schools.

This isn't PRIVLEGE!! This is friggin economics and our inability to adjust. Go read William Julius Wilson "When Work Disappears." This has been discussed and talked about for YEARS. "Underlying accelerated ghetto joblessness has been the US transition from a manufacturing to a service economy--a development that particularly devastated urban blacks"
Funny thing is....it's now no longer just a "black only" problem. It's spilling over into a national issue.



Have you not seen these entitled mid western men bytching about wanting their jobs to come back because they can no longer support their families while their wives are outpacing them?
Trump played on that.

How off are you dudes in here?

Don't put this shyt on "black female privilege." That is the biggest CROCK of shyt there is.

I honestly don't believe many of you who claim to care for black people are very read on black people.
The point of that post was to refute the ridiculous notion that there's such a thing as "black male privilege". You know, the bullshyt lie that your bullshyt black feminism ideology is built on? It's not black men who have created a "go our own way movement" out of resentment for black women and so called black female privilege.
 

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It's not black men who have created a "go our own way movement" out of resentment for black women and so called black female privilege.

Bravo. 'Nuff said.

Medgar, Malcolm and Martin did not give up their lives just for "Black men."

Myrlie, Betty and Coretta certainly did not believe that they did.

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Where was it stated that this "Black women rising" gender inequity is the "fault" of Black women?

Then what's the point of posting that article? What's the end game...creating some false myth of privlege?

Please feel free to cut-and-paste that "fault" accusation in your reply.

Feel free to tell me the end game of that article. Black women are played less than their white peers. They are to accept that?



Black men generally do not resort to the empty analysis of who is, or who is not "privileged."
Generally, black men don't resort to collaborating on a national level to say what's what to begin with.

That jargon-speak is left to self-described "feminists" and student-activists.

What value is this statement?

Yet, there are Black feminists who rail at the "privilege" of Black men vs Black women,
I need to hear from Black feminists I know on this privilege. I'll let them be their own spokesman on this where I can either agree or disagree.

when the current household structure leadership composition of the community, the data,
and Newsweek magazine covers simply do not support their claim.

I'm going to go offline and find out about these claims and what that privilege they speak of means.



Many of us do have daughters who do not buy into the "Sistas got to do it for themselves" propaganda
that has festered in our community for decades.

What's the alternative? Do for yourselves doesn't equal hate men...so what's your point. You REALLY think it's flawed to tell your daughters to rely on themselves?




Don't feminists refer to this structure as the "oppressive patriarchy" for women? Hasn't the social fight been
for 50 years to eradicate this family formation, no matter the race involved?

I have no idea what you're saying here. Please clarify.




And who did the majority of those white women vote for, in support of their unemployed white husbands,
AND notwithstanding the candidacy of the first white female nominee for POTUS?

Those white women voted for Donald Trump. They know full well if their HUSBANDS lose it, they lose it, too.

That is common sense.
First of all, who cared who they voted for. I was talking about WM and how Trump played on their entitled emotions because they couldn't adjust to a changing job market thats moved from manufacturing to service. How they are now being displaced as the head of their homes for the same reasons black men were for the past 30 plus years.

And as it relates to black women, black men have long lost it that hub. White women are protecting and trying to secures what's TO lose. You're blaming black women for adjusting to what is ALREADY lost.
 

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Media. Which is controlled by "The Man".

Im not going to rally against him, but I wont support him either.

Same answer as before.

No.
Its not just black women. Its the media.

A few negative comments from a small minority are given coverage and its reported as the opinion of "black women". Not counting those who will parot opinions they don't care about or belive in for likes, thumbs up and daps. Then its made to seem like there are millions of black women world wide angry about Nate Parker.

The "pill bill" story was reported 24/7 world wide. But you have sick shyts like that seventh heaven guy who is a confessed pedo and the media barely reported on it.

A perfect example is that German pilot who murdered all those people when he brought that plane down. That story didn't last long on main news channels. Had he been black or Arab you can just imagine.....

Trust, this Casey Affleck story would gain more traction if mainstream media would report it more. They won't.

That Nate Parker is married to a white woman is not as big an issue as you think. A lot of black male celebrities are married to white/other women and they get massive support from black females.

There seems to be a lot of very bitter sounding hatred of women on the coli.

For those bytching about black women this black women that. Do the black women you know irl have these opinions?
But twitter and hit pieces killed Nate Parker's movie, they didn't need CNN or Fox to help them. Black media killed dude just as much if not more than and mainstream media could have. People need to quit running with the lazy "the media" narrative when now you or I can take a motherfukker down with an iPhone to record them doing some foul shyt, or a microphone to spew whatever lies you want, or photoshop to edit pics however the hell you want to make a person look bad. 9 times out of 10 "the media" will only pick up these types of stories after they get big online first. I keep hearing that people don't watch the news or even tv anymore yet people want to always say shyt is the medias fault. CNN didn't make nikkas not watch BOAN.
 

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So are you saying black feminists are in fact the white man attack dogs

You are saying that since white media told you to attack nate parker you did what he said

And because the white man did not tell you to attack casey affleck you left him alone?

Because thats how i interpret your words

That's because you're very angry but not very bright.

My post clearly said that Black feminists went after both men. The white media did not tell us to do anything because the white media doesn't even include us period. The fact is whites who control the media did not put as much focus on Casey Affleck. Black feminists applied the same pressure in both situations by 1) calling them both out 2) supporting neither. To be honest Manchester by the Sea didn't even do well. The only difference in the outcome for both men is the Academy of Arts and Sciences decide to reward that disgusting man. That was not under Black women's control.

The problem here is that the misogynists of the Coli think Black women should go after bad behavior for men who are non-Black, but be silent about bad behavior from men when they are Black in some weird display of non-reciprocal solidarity. I say non-reciprocal because you all certainly have no plans to be silent about female bad behavior when the woman is Black. In fact it heightens your attacking of it. But Black women don't have to and shouldn't keep quiet about male abusers just because they are Black. The idea that we are somehow obligated to is the exact reason why Black feminism exists. Black women should go after all male abusers as we have been. If your pro-Blackness is dependent on Black women suffering in silence at sexism and sexist acts committed by Black men, we don't want it.
 
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That's because you're very angry but not very bright.

My post clearly said that Black feminists went after both men. The white media did not tell us to do anything because the white media doesn't even include us period. The fact is whites who control the media did not put as much focus on Casey Affleck. Black feminists applied the same pressure in both situations by 1) calling them both out 2) supporting neither. To be honest Manchester by the Sea didn't even do well. The only difference in the outcome for both men is the Academy of Arts and Sciences decide to reward that disgusting man. That was not under Black women's control.

The problem here is that the misogynists of the Coli think Black women should go after bad behavior for men who are non-Black, but be silent about bad behavior from men when they are Black in some weird display of non-reciprocal solidarity. I say non-reciprocal because you all certainly have no plans to be silent about female bad behavior when the woman is Black. In fact it heightens your attacking of it. But Black women don't have to and shouldn't keep quiet about male abusers just because they are Black. The idea that we are somehow obligated to is the exact reason why Black feminism exists. Black women should go after all male abusers as we have been. If your pro-Blackness is dependent on Black women suffering in silence at sexism and sexist acts committed by Black men, we don't want it.
The issue is money. You can't effect White daddy money but you can harm ours. This is why brehs can't stand Black feminists. They are literally only use to harm Black men and Beyonce haters. No matter what your wants and needs are, that's the only power you know you got. Which is why a lot of Black men look at you like white daddy's pit bull next to white daddy house negros "c00ns"
 

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That's because you're very angry but not very bright.

My post clearly said that Black feminists went after both men. The white media did not tell us to do anything because the white media doesn't even include us period. The fact is whites who control the media did not put as much focus on Casey Affleck. Black feminists applied the same pressure in both situations by 1) calling them both out 2) supporting neither. To be honest Manchester by the Sea didn't even do well. The only difference in the outcome for both men is the Academy of Arts and Sciences decide to reward that disgusting man. That was not under Black women's control.

The problem here is that the misogynists of the Coli think Black women should go after bad behavior for men who are non-Black, but be silent about bad behavior from men when they are Black in some weird display of non-reciprocal solidarity. I say non-reciprocal because you all certainly have no plans to be silent about female bad behavior when the woman is Black. In fact it heightens your attacking of it. But Black women don't have to and shouldn't keep quiet about male abusers just because they are Black. The idea that we are somehow obligated to is the exact reason why Black feminism exists. Black women should go after all male abusers as we have been. If your pro-Blackness is dependent on Black women suffering in silence at sexism and sexist acts committed by Black men, we don't want it.


Like dude said your vitriol doesnt affect cacs rising up but your vitriol does harm black men

So in essence you are only effectively hurting black men so in that regard

Maybe you ladies should in fact shut the fukk up because you only hurt your own

Nate parker was innocent
 

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You see the tag.
Lmao! I did! But 1st page fukkery be callin out to me. I don't feel like responding to this b/c imma have to research who these people are. Can u give me a run down of the major points? Lol! I don't know who Casey Affleck is. I wish I was better about pop culture but I don't follow the media that way. I do know Nate Parker.
My Twitter TL talm bout shyt like top 20 saddest animes that make u cry and/or the fact that ur saliva has a painkiller up to 6 times more powerful than morphine.
Lemme scroll thru this fukkery and I'll chime in after seminar...(or during if my professor don't catch me lmao)
 

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The issue is money. You can't effect White daddy money but you can harm ours. This is why brehs can't stand Black feminists. They are literally only use to harm Black men and Beyonce haters. No matter what your wants and needs are, that's the only power you know you got. Which is why a lot of Black men look at you like white daddy's pit bull next to white daddy house negros "c00ns"

Sure can, because we are the only ones who can be depended on to support Black men beyond sports by and large even more so than Black men support themselves. Even with all the white/non-Black women worship and abandonment, its us. You'd think that'd garner some type of respect and support in return but it doesn't. So many Black women have said do as you will with your sexism, but you won't do it on my dime.

And I don't think any woman with sense should care how a bunch of unrepentant misogynists view her :heh:
 
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