Black residents reject Trader Joe’s because it would attract too many white people
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Be Strong Blackman
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but it's been empty and vacant for years. I understand the threat of increased prices
There's a Trader Joes in downtown BK and Glendale Queens.
Didn't read the whole thread but its an interesting topic because this story basically serves as a model for how we are going to treat the ghetto all across the country.
What exactly is the solution to improving the standard of living in the ghetto in such a way that the people living there can reap the benefits? I just don't get it. Bring in black businesses? I guess so. Except right now there aren't many black businesses you can bring to these neighborhoods.
It seems to me like the reason why residents of the ghetto wouldn't benefit from a trader joes is perhaps because a lot of these people are unemployable. Even if you brought in a black business, I'm not sure how that would change anything. A black person is not going to hire someone unemployable just because he's black. And even if he gave the person a chance, he would soon regret it.
I'm not sure what to think so I'm open to all ideas. I just think there's something very wrong with saying we need to keep the slums a slum, keep the ghetto a ghetto.
Does anyone know where do these poor people go after their neighborhood has been gentrified? Do they just remain homeless?
What exactly is the solution to improving the standard of living in the ghetto in such a way that the people living there can reap the benefits? I just don't get it. Bring in black businesses? I guess so. Except right now there aren't many black businesses you can bring to these neighborhoods.
It seems to me like the reason why residents of the ghetto wouldn't benefit from a trader joes is perhaps because a lot of these people are unemployable. Even if you brought in a black business, I'm not sure how that would change anything. A black person is not going to hire someone unemployable just because he's black. And even if he gave the person a chance, he would soon regret it.
I'm not sure what to think so I'm open to all ideas. I just think there's something very wrong with saying we need to keep the slums a slum, keep the ghetto a ghetto.
Does anyone know where do these poor people go after their neighborhood has been gentrified? Do they just remain homeless?
they have to move to areas they can afford to live in, Black neighborhoods where they're not a familiar face and at an increased risk for victimization by the criminals in the area.
black people being forced into neighborhoods with other blacks, coupled with the frustration of having to move from an area you actually wanted to live in, to an area that you don't, is a recipe for disaster. crime rates rise, and the property value plummets, while the gentrified locale you left behind is now on its way to thriving.
Captain Crunch
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1. Solution to improving ghettos without displacing long time residents, is for the community to provide jobs for itself. For example many youths are unemployed, so you start up a tutorship program that employs top HS students to help elementary students with homework. You pay 5 HS'ers $500/month each to tutor 15 kids, and you pay an adult supervisor $14/hr($840/month), the program operates Monday - Friday(4pm - 7pm). To operate said program for a year(rent; insurance; utilities, equipment, food, etc) would probably be had $200 k a year. If it's a community of 2000 adults, that's $100 each( less than $0.30 a day).
2. People who left because of gentrification, usually head to suburban/rural areas.
There are 5 within NYC, 3 in Manhattan, 1 in BK and 1 in Queens
This thread is depressing as all hell and the old saying about "six in one hand and a half dozen in the other" comes to mind. On one hand I understand the concerns regarding gentrifcation, and I'm not gonna pretend be an expert on economics. That said I don't know how you address the problem with gentrifcation when a company is looking to expand into an underdeveloped community. At the same time, we can't kid ourselves and think that anything is ever going to become of that empty lot.
It's kinda ironic in a sense because, White Flight really put a hiccup in the economic foundation that would have benefited future generations of Black people. Everything from a lack of support for Black owned businesses, decreased property values, discrimination, inferior public schools, etc.. These aspects of White Flight set Blacks back another 70-80 years on top of the 300-400 years that our forefathers were already suffering with a boot on their neck. The irony, at least to me is, White Flight isn't as predominant due to communities of various ethnic backgrounds being established. The communities that suffered the most from White Flight, are in need of economic revival. However, there's consequences in the form of gentrification. So White people left Blacks behind to fend for themselves and systematically ensured that there would be limited success, and now Blacks can't afford for outside businesses to set up shop in the community because of gentrification. Damned if we do or don't in this society.
There's a side of me too that can't help but wonder if the community would have been better off allowing Trader Joes to come in. Some people are going to be a victim of gentrification, but is it possible that it's a necessary evil in this case?
It's kinda ironic in a sense because, White Flight really put a hiccup in the economic foundation that would have benefited future generations of Black people. Everything from a lack of support for Black owned businesses, decreased property values, discrimination, inferior public schools, etc.. These aspects of White Flight set Blacks back another 70-80 years on top of the 300-400 years that our forefathers were already suffering with a boot on their neck. The irony, at least to me is, White Flight isn't as predominant due to communities of various ethnic backgrounds being established. The communities that suffered the most from White Flight, are in need of economic revival. However, there's consequences in the form of gentrification. So White people left Blacks behind to fend for themselves and systematically ensured that there would be limited success, and now Blacks can't afford for outside businesses to set up shop in the community because of gentrification. Damned if we do or don't in this society.
There's a side of me too that can't help but wonder if the community would have been better off allowing Trader Joes to come in. Some people are going to be a victim of gentrification, but is it possible that it's a necessary evil in this case?
So you're saying that people in the "ghetto", are largely untrainable, and incapable of working a basic supermarket or retail job? Jesus christ, every time you contribute to this board you completely embarrass yourself.
the small city is frankenmuth in michigan. they are a little city with little retail stores. it's quite a beautiful city. with their own little stores that's unique with their community.
a lot of older white money german folks there. they kept walmart out.
http://michiganlawyerblog.wordpress...-award-in-frankenmuth-wal-mart-deal-reversed/
Educate us
walmart is NOTHING like trader joes.
Whether or not you want to admit it, but there is a class issue here.
People with more money and education shop at trader joes.
I'd be HONORED to have one in my neighborhood.
cleanface coney
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you sound silly as fukk
people reject these businesses...cuz white people tend to look down on others
its in they nature...arrogance mixed with alot of insecurity
i dont even have to read this thread... to tell alot of yall dudes in here prolly just dissing disenfranschised blacks
dude talkin about people with "money and education" shop at trader jobs....like that matters
you sound lame my nikka
...like a trendy female
cleanface coney
Superstar
Because they are retarded. the whole foods in detroit.... has that CAC feel, but in less than a years time.. madd black people have jobs there and it's slowing becoming a place i can go to see bad bytches...
and i don't like white girls.
NTM the health reasons.. WHY wouldn't our collectively unhealthy asses want traderjoes and wholefoods.. We at least could make our own versions.
and side note: I pep all the rat hoes using the bridge cards there. Both places accept stamps, so IT's a win win win
that whole foods is packed damn near all day everyday
but i gotta stay loyal to Eastern Market lol