Black people need to stop beating each other up over this election

Wild self

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Like to wear nothing but white? I respect your opinion.
Anchovies and pineapple on the same pizza? I respect your opinion.
Biking during the winter rather than train? I respect your opinion.
Selecting an open white supremacist who is installing white supremacists who also have a very explicit agenda to disenfranchise black people?

MOTHAfukk yo opinion (not you, unless you voted for Trump). Its not just about who is getting deported or having nasty things said to them. Despite what some militant folks like to say, there has been some progress on race relations AND in the wake of George Floyd, the USA had a moment to reckon with it's racism. In 4 short years all of that has been undone. When people have bad opinions that actually effect people, its beyond a difference of opinion.

You sitting at home with your uncle and he gloats about Trump winning, it might fall in line with a buncha stupid, selfish bullshyt he did over the years.
ORRRRR You normally see him as nice but wonder wtf made him ignore all the signs? This is bigger than "What is acceptable taxation." Folks are having to look at rights they grew *up* with being taken from them *now* by Christian nationalists who want to roll back the clock a literal century.

Yep. They slave catcher status, and they need to be shot at, on sight. They are endangering your very freedom and choices in anything worthwhile, so it is actually ethical to stay away from them and harm them if necessary. Those sa.w people that would snitch to Hitler and the Nazis in the 1930s, going to do the same to you.
 

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The fact this election would have still been close even if Kamala won tells you there is a deeper problem here than Black people not going to vote enough. That problem was going to come to a head sooner or later and it seems now is the time.
This part will be overlooked but you tried OP.

Now sit back and watch your thread devolve into "fukk them other negroes!"
 

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Like to wear nothing but white? I respect your opinion.
Anchovies and pineapple on the same pizza? I respect your opinion.
Biking during the winter rather than train? I respect your opinion.
Selecting an open white supremacist who is installing white supremacists who also have a very explicit agenda to disenfranchise black people?

MOTHAfukk yo opinion (not you, unless you voted for Trump). Its not just about who is getting deported or having nasty things said to them. Despite what some militant folks like to say, there has been some progress on race relations AND in the wake of George Floyd, the USA had a moment to reckon with it's racism. In 4 short years all of that has been undone. When people have bad opinions that actually effect people, its beyond a difference of opinion.

You sitting at home with your uncle and he gloats about Trump winning, it might fall in line with a buncha stupid, selfish bullshyt he did over the years.
ORRRRR You normally see him as nice but wonder wtf made him ignore all the signs? This is bigger than "What is acceptable taxation." Folks are having to look at rights they grew *up* with being taken from them *now* by Christian nationalists who want to roll back the clock a literal century.

Trump represents this country in a bad way…

People despise him but think like him.


At the end of the day, Black Folks are gonna be alright. We tough.

These other groups, not so much. They’re gonna feel it from that from that man, not us.
 

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So you're saying Black adults who voted for a literal Klansman should be excused and given peace of mind?! :what:

This is why gangsterism and rampant ignorance took hold..no one is holding the next man to account and thus shyt decision making is commonplace and seen as freedom of choice and expression. :camby:

By all means, black Trump supporters even on TLR need a whole clip of ammo of an Ak47 sprayed to their faces.
 

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I have seen enough of this on social media and here. Yes, Black turnout for Kamala could have been better in swing states and the 'higher' and the Black vote for Trump in many states is actually him getting less Black votes than 2020 but against lower turnout.

But tearing each other apart on who voted and trashing people who gave legitimate criticism of the Democratic Party and Kamala is missing the big point. America has been sliding into a dark place for a long time. Black people will all be affected regardless so acting like you have some virtue shield and position because you voted for Harris (and I did) is being solipsistic. She lost and we all will have to deal with it, united or divided.

The GOP started the slide into crazy land not in 2016 but in 1994 after the last sane GOP admin of George Bush Sr. in 1988-1992. Black progress, including affirmative action, has been challenged and retrenched since the 1970s. For all the gnashing of teeth about the recent court decisions, those of us old enough to remember the Ward Connerly era and the stage challenges are surprised affirmative action survived this long (really). What happened is GOP appointed judges followed the law and weren't radical enough until now.

Trump should have lost but double digits to Krusty the Klown much less Kamala and we can't ignore the MAGA folks in Congress and especially state and local races that have rapidly grown. Throwing a tantrum that Black folks can't maintain the enthusiasm and turnout of 2008 forever is acting like we have the power to hold back the tides of where this nation is turning is naive. We are 14% of the population and with non-replacement level fertility. The pressure of MAGA leaning Hispanics and Asians will just get greater. Let me not even start about the dumb gender warring about how some gender should be collectively rewarded or punished for their voting record despite both groups have hundreds of thousands that voted for Trump.

For this to not have occurred, one of three things would need to have happened:

1) The GOP would have to pivot to the center and sanity and bush its crazies--it didn't
2) The public would have had to let the GOP know open racism and embrace of extremism were deal breakers--lots of 'moderates' have shown they don't see it that way
3) The Democratic Party would have had to have been more focused and competent in governing and campaigning--stop acting like Kamala and the DNC ran some perfect race; granted that shouldn't have mattered given the stakes but claiming all is good and people were just prejudiced gets us nowhere in 2028.

None of these happened. Yeah, there are cultural issues like trans stuff which I don't agree with but there are ALWAYS cultural panics with the modern GOP. CRT just ran out of steam before this election.

The fact this election would have still been close even if Kamala won tells you there is a deeper problem here than Black people not going to vote enough. That problem was going to come to a head sooner or later and it seems now is the time.

Black folks need to discuss ways to make ourselves more immune to electoral fukkery, not lament our inability to sway every election in our interest. That's the only sustainable way going forward. The nice and normal America is going to be gone for a very long time.
Dap + rep! Too many black folks crashed out
 

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By all means, black Trump supporters even on TLR need a whole clip of ammo of an Ak47 sprayed to their faces.

They are only 21%..they can get rounded up and beaten severely into the middle of next week..
Because after 2 years of Trumpian rule people will be furious and will want to beat someone to death for the situation they and their families are in.
 

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They are only 21%..they can get rounded up and beaten severely into the middle of next week..
Because after 2 years of Trumpian rule people will be furious and will want to beat someone to death for the situation they and their families are in.

They don't deserve forgiveness. They still cannot contain their excitement in their victory, and they do it such a way that they almost encourage people to lash out. It's provoking violence that they need to learn from. They are legit happy for most black folks getting left in the dust and their basic rights taken away.
 

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They don't deserve forgiveness. They still cannot contain their excitement in their victory, and they do it such a way that they almost encourage people to lash out. It's provoking violence that they need to learn from. They are legit happy for most black folks getting left in the dust and their basic rights taken away.

They're all technically the same miserable fukks that follow the likes of Tariq.

These are the tether this, tether that folks everyone thought were real funny and cute before the election being xenophobic against foreign Black people..unti they showed their anus to Black American citizens in the election and said fukk you too :ufdup:
 

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at the end of the day, the Dems had a chance to win this but couldn’t escape the morass they dug themselves into by picking Kamala as the vp. Biden was so old they should have envisioned the possibility of him dying and them being stuck with a uncharismatic vp.
Honestly he shouldn’t have been picked on 2020. They should’ve planned better after2012
 
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It's clear now that the challenges in this election go far beyond voter turnout. The political landscape has been shifting for decades, with the GOP moving further and further towards extremism, and the Democrats facing its own set of issues. While voter turnout could always be better, the blame shouldn't fall on Black voters. You're right that focus should be on larger systemic factors, like the rise of MAGA politics, the failure to improve the material conditions of those hurting the most, and the broader social and political shifts we're facing. However, there are Black people who stand as obstacles and they're just as much a problem as anyone else.
 

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They're all technically the same miserable fukks that follow the likes of Tariq.

These are the tether this, tether that folks everyone thought were real funny and cute before the election being xenophobic against foreign Black people..unti they showed their anus to Black American citizens in the election and said fukk you too :ufdup:

Yep, which makes me :yeshrug: when they get their karma. They want violence and barbarian measures, time to deliver it to them.
 

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Yep, which makes me :yeshrug: when they get their karma. They want violence and barbarian measures, time to deliver it to them.

Unless they're all personally insulated from the upcoming reality horror show by having multi millionaire status, life in the next 4 years will be brutal for them as it is for everyone else..but it'll be too late.

Voting out of retribution, spite and hate will bite you right in your own ass.
 

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Unless they're all personally insulated from the upcoming reality horror show by having multi millionaire status, life in the next 4 years will be brutal for them as it is for everyone else..but it'll be too late.

Voting out of retribution, spite and hate will bite you right in your own ass.

They gonna be fighting a war on THRRE ends: The MAGA shyt, the majority of the black community, and each other. They will be the first to fall, right after the immigrants get deported in mass.
 

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Black folks need to discuss ways to make ourselves more immune to electoral fukkery, not lament our inability to sway every election in our interest
Do you have any ideas or was that whole post a long winded version of “stop fighting”?

:comeon:
Cause immunity to electoral fukkery would have been great before the election AND once again cause I can’t say this enough. Even if Black, Asians, Arabs, and Latinos all voted for Kamala at higher numbers I don’t think it overcomes the amount of white women and white men Trump got. Trump made in roads with idiots of all races, but it was white people who did this and white people should own up to it.
 
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