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I'm not a pessimist...but I'm not an optimist when it comes to capitalism and black people either.

Sure...There are many black people who have played the game and become successful...but there are more than that who have NOT. And it's not just some write off issue of "not working hard" or "being lazy" but it also has to do with the nature of the American landscape with systemic racism and class is steeped in between...not to mention the free market being manipulated to exclude black people (ie the first round of fdr approved new deal programs from which black people were excluded from, the first suburbs that came into fruition in the aftermath of world war 2, and numerous other cases over the years where states and governments worked together to shut black folks out of the game) which creates a whole different animal.

If it worked so well...why are the majority of black people struggling in this system? The majority of America's homeless are black. Black men and women are three times as likely than anyone else to be unemployed. And the problem with that in this system is the fact that money is required to live in it.

When you look at maslow's hierarchy of needs..20/26 needs require money.
At the bottom of the pyramid are the base needs (food, clothing, shelter, homeostasis, excretion, sleep, breathing). Out of these 5 at least require money. You need a job to make mkney. You need money to survive. So what happens when you can't make enough money to satisfy the bottom tier of the hierarchy? You DIE.

So while we can all admit that capitalism has produced it's success stories, the harsh truth is that it weeds out the desirable from the undesirable. And considering who has been pulling the strings and whose strings are being pulled it's easy to see why capitalism does not work for the black collective American society as a whole.
Not that I disagree with this sentiment, but there's a shytload of opportunity to make money in America, yeah there's a racist and prejudice culture in somewhat of a position of power, but what can and are blacks, looking / trying to do to build up / invest their own communities. In my own city the remnants of segregation are still largely felt and visible today, from the majority of poor and disadvantaged blacks with minimal skills,living in the south more inland areas to the few middle to well off blacks in the northwest section of LA.

But one take away I see amongst the poverty stricken areas, is opportunity and potential. Man the hood is prime real estate especially inglewood and compton. Inglewood is right next to the airport in a major city, and I'm sure many businesses would love to have an hq within proximity to the airport like Inglewood has to offer. Not to mention the year around great weather. And to add on just further east, compton is essentially an industrial area with cheap rent and low property taxes that could easily attract tons of businesses.

Now the solution is how do people living in these areas capitalize off of these blessing in disguise without falling victim to moving away, selling their homes for almost nothing go live in the middle of nowhere in places like palmdale, lancaster, fontana, aka the boonies and become victims to the new wave of gentrification

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no system is perfect.

there is nothing inherently wrong with capitalism, just the greedy people that exploit it at the expense of others.
Prove the bolded with an example or examples in other countries that were not built off slavery.
 

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Sure, but reading many of the comments(in this thread) the two are seen as synonymous, and there is just zero truth to that.
i hear you and i ask you to do the same thing. PROVE IT. I need to see capitalism without white supremacy working well in some country. And if you find said country, i dont want to find out that its slave-ish labor that has built the place or holding it up today.

What do we know about capitalism on the ground floor? We know america started with this free labor(slaves).
we do know that american companies are using workers overseas to do the same jobs americans use to do. WHY? because its cheaper. So much so, that it cant be passed up. So wait... once again you have companies trying to circumvent our laws (employee friendly) in order to make even more profit. We're not talking about companies that would've gone out of business if they didnt take their factories overseas. we're talking about companies that were making money and wanted to make even more profit. Not by way of innovation. But by way of drastically cutting the cost of the employee. Ok so you can no longer enslave or abuse your workers here in the states. so you take that abuse show on the road to other countries where you can still abuse these people to some degree. all for profit. This is what we know on the ground.
 

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i hear you and i ask you to do the same thing. PROVE IT. I need to see capitalism without white supremacy working well in some country. And if you find said country, i dont want to find out that its slave-ish labor that has built the place or holding it up today.
Prove that capitalism, and white supremacy are not one in the same thing?
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:mjlol:No thanks, I prefer knowing you believe that.
 

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It is mind-boggling that some of you can't even make the connection between slavery, colonialism, and capitalism. :mindblown: Equally mind-boggling is that some of you don't see how the vast majority of people are exploited under capitalism, with vast numbers being absolutely ground up by the ruling class.
 

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Prove that capitalism, and white supremacy are not one in the same thing?
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:mjlol:No thanks, I prefer knowing you believe that.
i didnt say what i believed in. i asked you to prove something you swear is true. so...where you at? shoot, i even gave you a way to prove it. But we see you cant. So maybe next time you shouldnt make that reply. because you're not sure if its true or not. Since you dont have any proof that it is nor isnt.

Again were not talking about a pure definition of capitalism we're talking about how its actually works in the real world. not theory. if you cant give me a real world example of it not being tied in with white supremacy(which you swear it isnt). Then miss us all with the "no its not". You dont know that and you prove as much. So until you give me/us proof otherwise. we will assume you dont know.
 

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It is mind-boggling that some of you can't even make the connection between slavery, colonialism, and capitalism. :mindblown: Equally mind-boggling is that some of you don't see how the vast majority of people are exploited under capitalism, with vast numbers being absolutely ground up by the ruling class.
they see it. they know its there. but their HOPE there's a way out thru capitalism. Because thats all they know and thats all they want to know at this point.
 
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