Black parents are dream killers, take their advice with caution, dont let them indoctrinate you

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Most of this information you posted has nothing to do with bad parenting and goes a LOT deeper than parenting as well. Even so, most of what he posted has nothing to do with you posted. I could argue 10 other possible reasons for what you posted and none of them would be bad parenting. Not to mention bad parenting is, for the most part, subjective.

In addition, there is a difference between causation and correlation. Your post implies you don't quite get the difference.
For example, when my mother was younger she was a maid and a single mother and lived well below the poverty line. She's the same parent now as she was then. Her poverty level had nothing to do with her ability as a parent. That's just where she happened to be at that point in her life.
Sir this is my last reply to you. You have continuously ignored facts that I have presented, and brushed them off as if they have no barring on the current plight of black people. You act as if many black men with bright futures haven't died to senseless gang violence, stepping on someone's shoes, or over simple disagreements. What's the point? The point is, many black children are brought into this world and aren't given a chance because they have no choice but to live in these neighborhoods.

How is it not bad parenting to willingly choose to have multiple children living in the ghetto KNOWING you can't afford them?

I showed you facts about the poverty rate being extremely high amongst single mothers who made horrible decisions having babies with thugs. Somehow out of that you got that I dont know the difference between causation and correlation???

The causation is black women purposefully destroying the black family structure, by accepting government aid. Welfare strictly tells women not to have a father in the homes. Are we going to diminish the role of father in society? Black women have a 'I'm strong and don't need no man' mentality. They even go as far as trashing the children's father telling the kids 'they ain't shyt like they daddy' is that not bad parenting?? Is that not ruining that child's self esteem??


The correlation is that blacks have the highest rate of single parent households amongst all americans with a staggering 70% of black children born out of wedlock. This isn't reasoning for why blacks have it harder than the rest of America?? It isn't a crying shame why when a black kid goes out into the world, chances are he's not taking over the family business or being employed by someone who looks like him?


Every other race of people have a better understanding of leaving a legacy behind, and passing things of value down to their children, so they can then pass it to theirs, except us. Which is why you see so many whites, Indians, and Asians setting up deli's, liquor stores, shoe stores, etc in our communities and then taking that wealth right back to their own communities.

What sense does it make to not teach your children to look out for themselves? Many black people are big on fashion and it's about the only thing being taught, because all nikkas care about is 'getting fresh'.
Getting fresh most of the time requires you to spend money with white people. Black kids who come from 2 parent households care a lot less about fashion that's a fact. The reason is because alot of single black mothers think that buying their kids a bunch of gear is good parenting. Their reasoning behind it is 'I didn't have these things growing up' but fail to teach their children anything of actual value like, entrepreneurialism, following your dreams/passion, not making the same mistakes they did and etc.
 

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Sir this is my last reply to you. You have continuously ignored facts that I have presented, and brushed them off as if they have no barring on the current plight of black people. You act as if many black men with bright futures haven't died to senseless gang violence, stepping on someone's shoes, or over simple disagreements. What's the point? The point is, many black children are brought into this world and aren't given a chance because they have no choice but to live in these neighborhoods.

How is it not bad parenting to willingly choose to have multiple children living in the ghetto KNOWING you can't afford them?

I showed you facts about the poverty rate being extremely high amongst single mothers who made horrible decisions having babies with thugs. Somehow out of that you got that I dont know the difference between causation and correlation???

The causation is black women purposefully destroying the black family structure, by accepting government aid. Welfare strictly tells women not to have a father in the homes. Are we going to diminish the role of father in society? Black women have a 'I'm strong and don't need no man' mentality. They even go as far as trashing the children's father telling the kids 'they ain't shyt like they daddy' is that not bad parenting?? Is that not ruining that child's self esteem??


The correlation is that blacks have the highest rate of single parent households amongst all americans with a staggering 70% of black children born out of wedlock. This isn't reasoning for why blacks have it harder than the rest of America?? It isn't a crying shame why when a black kid goes out into the world, chances are he's not taking over the family business or being employed by someone who looks like him?


Every other race of people have a better understanding of leaving a legacy behind, and passing things of value down to their children, so they can then pass it to theirs, except us. Which is why you see so many whites, Indians, and Asians setting up deli's, liquor stores, shoe stores, etc in our communities and then taking that wealth right back to their own communities.

What sense does it make to not teach your children to look out for themselves? Many black people are big on fashion and it's about the only thing being taught, because all nikkas care about is 'getting fresh'.
Getting fresh most of the time requires you to spend money with white people. Black kids who come from 2 parent households care a lot less about fashion that's a fact. The reason is because alot of single black mothers think that buying their kids a bunch of gear is good parenting. Their reasoning behind it is 'I didn't have these things growing up' but fail to teach their children anything of actual value like, entrepreneurialism, following your dreams/passion, not making the same mistakes they did and etc.
Let me make this point. I don't disagree with the things you're saying, generally. There is some truth to it. But what you're talking about us not the premise of this thread or what I'm really arguing against.

Now to my response:

You can NOT reply all you'd like. That doesn't make your points correct. You're still confusing causation with correlation. Furthermore your argument is littered with assumptions and opinions that have no basis in truth if you're going to try to paint it as the overwhelming condition for black people. All of the problems that you pointed out are in fact problems. What I disagree with is this idea that the major driving force of these problems is bad parenting. There is no way to prove that. And as I mentioned before, parenting is subjective. I also disagree with this idea that bad parenting ALONE is some problem overwhelmingly affecting blacks more than others.

The only thing I'm really disagreeing with you about is bad parenting being the cause of these problems. The example you gave related to causation goes much deeper than bad parenting. You're ignoring the derivative. How did we even get to the point of relying on welfare. And after we were put into that position, who created the policies regarding fathers not being in the home. Who made it more difficult to get jobs for the people who most heavily rely on welfare. Who disproportionately put black men in jail then wouldn't hire them for jobs when they got out so they can't support their family and they need welfare. And when your family has been stuck in that cycle for generations, how do you get out when the school systems don't even properly educate you?

Its so much deeper than bad parenting.

If they showed 16 and pregnant on TV as much as they show this other nonsense about black people, we'd be saying the same thing about white families. But that's not the message they're trying to feed us.
 

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@ me then you coward ass country ass nikka. I bet money you don't contribute shyt to society. Your simple ass cant even muster up an intelligible response disproving anyone's points. Just come in this jawn name calling. Did somebody in here say something that reminded you of your mom? Your feelings hurt country boy?
 
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Let me make this point. I don't disagree with the things you're saying, generally. There is some truth to it. But what you're talking about us not the premise of this thread or what I'm really arguing against.

Now to my response:

You can NOT reply all you'd like. That doesn't make your points correct. You're still confusing causation with correlation. Furthermore your argument is littered with assumptions and opinions that have no basis in truth if you're going to try to paint it as the overwhelming condition for black people. All of the problems that you pointed out are in fact problems. What I disagree with is this idea that the major driving force of these problems is bad parenting. There is no way to prove that. And as I mentioned before, parenting is subjective. I also disagree with this idea that bad parenting ALONE is some problem overwhelmingly affecting blacks more than others.

The only thing I'm really disagreeing with you about is bad parenting being the cause of these problems. The example you gave related to causation goes much deeper than bad parenting. You're ignoring the derivative. How did we even get to the point of relying on welfare. And after we were put into that position, who created the policies regarding fathers not being in the home. Who made it more difficult to get jobs for the people who most heavily rely on welfare. Who disproportionately put black men in jail then wouldn't hire them for jobs when they got out so they can't support their family and they need welfare. And when your family has been stuck in that cycle for generations, how do you get out when the school systems don't even properly educate you?

Its so much deeper than bad parenting.

If they showed 16 and pregnant on TV as much as they show this other nonsense about black people, we'd be saying the same thing about white families. But that's not the message they're trying to feed us.
ok I get it now, you'd rather blame someone else for our problems then ourselves. I feel as if i did a good job supported with facts as to why these issues are caused by bad parenting. We'll have to agree to disagree here good sir.


and to the bolded: black women didn't HAVE to start accepting welfare because before welfare was introduced, blacks had the highest percentage of children born WITHIN wedlock in this country...

also 40% of black men are in jail for child support, who's putting black men on child support... I'll wait... :sas2:
 
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Do you agree that this information can be learned directly with out college? Do you agree that blacks are being put into the rat trap of thinking big time Universities are the key to financial freedom when we are being denied jobs with degrees over people who have none? Would you agree that a degree in most cases does not give you a leg up in the American society as many college and non college graduates in America work side by side, get the same pay, and have the same chance of growth. That experience in America is much more valued then degrees( in most cases). Degrees are not the definition of education, please understand that first an foremost.
To an acceptable capacity, I suppose it can, but the likelihood of anyone actually doing that on their own, as some kind of autodidact is almost 0. None of the people who talk of "self learning over college educations" are Srinivasa Ramanujan, they're just people who love to be contrarian for the sake of being contrarian. And no, Black are not put in a rat-trap thinking, we are still underrepresented in university and graduate school, and still underperform when we are in universities. Degrees aren't the "definition" of education, but they certainly are the standard, and until I see a true disconnect between good work in higher education and lack of opportunity, I'm going to continue to cape for more Black students in higher education, more effort in higher education, and more focus on less "fun" subjects that are both high in compensation and in usefulness (like engineering).
 

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ok I get it now, you'd rather blame someone else for our problems then ourselves. I feel as if i did a good job supported with facts as to why these issues are caused by bad parenting. We'll have to agree to disagree here good sir.


and to the bolded: black women didn't HAVE to start accepting welfare because before welfare was introduced, blacks had the highest percentage of children born WITHIN wedlock in this country...

also 40% of black men are in jail for child support, who's putting black men on child support... I'll wait... :sas2:

I never mind agreeing to disagree. But I'd like to end with this this. Acknowledging that something happened is not relinquishing responsibility. I'm just pointing out that while bad parenting is real, there's a lot more to those numbers you're quoting. At least that's my opinion. If you think bad parenting is the driving force, fine. I just think there's a lot more to it than that.

:yeshrug:
 

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My black parents helped me in my life.

Sorry your parents aint shyt DrX.

Weren't you leaving The coli btw?
 

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The only luck in life are the cards you're dealt (situation you're born into). After that it's all on you. OP once ur older and more successful your kids are gonna flex on their friends with daddies that aren't as woke as you. Now get back to working on your dreams.
 

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just had a thought i wanted to share to my homies, ill log back off....

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the writing is more polished, i actually do spell checks and i got music, Photoshoped pics and much much more ...thats where im posting 90% of the time
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Progressively dystopian mindset..

Personal Website that hosts thoughts and eventually a manifesto..

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Brehs @DrX is either a killer or will be soon
i told yall nikkas to stop writing this shyt man, im not killer, just expressing thoughts....yall nikkas always trying to get brothers jammed up.....and in trouble......a bunch of agents on here...this place is dangerous
 
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