Black Men su!cides raising faster than any other racial group

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‘No Way Out?’ Black Male Suicides Rising Faster Than Any Other Racial Group

I don't believe everything I read

 

[semicko82]

No other race of men do this.

its annoying. Some these dudes see bashing black women as therapy. This dude literally sat there and is telling me that my wives sorors are doing superficial things. Or the summit of Black women executives are putting together superficial initiatives. That shyt is just plain GARBAGE and comes from a inexperienced person.

Im on record saying Ive grown less and less impressed by Black male leadership over the years. Dudes are failing each other left and right and arent looking within

 

[semicko82]

Delete

 

[Exlurkernegro]

I think that's a woman or a gheigh nikka.

 

[NYC Rebel]

I'll never understand why nikkas get mad about shyt like this.

Weird as fukk.

 

[TheAnointedOne]

I'm talking about the feminist portion of black women that bash black men. Not the "pick me" black women.

“pick me” black women?

wtf?

Im done here. This is juvenile

"Pick Me" is just a label given to 'normal' black women who aren't constantly bashing black men. It's a derogatory term given to by divestors/swirlers. They see these women as traitors.

 

[NYC Rebel]

"Pick Me" is just a label given to 'normal' black women who aren't constantly bashing black men. It's a derogatory term given to by divestors/swirlers. They see these women as traitors.

bruh…I dont give two shyts about jostling, and Ive seen clear try too hard women out there who dismiss legitimate criticism towards men and celebrated for it

That is neither here or there to me because Im speaking offline realities, not online labels.

labeling women along these this or that camps are juvenile as high school
Lunch table fukk.

 

[TheAnointedOne]

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Ok calm down bro.

You appeared to be confused by @Wild self 's post so I just provided clarification.

I've had multiple suicide attempts and they've all been at a time where I felt I had absolutely no social bonds with anyone. I knew people. Had family. Had people I could technically call friends. Had women. Had a decent sex life. What I didn't have is no one I could confide into. No one who I felt geniunely had my back.

I think a lot of black men feel this way. Part of the solution is having a strong social structure. That not only includes family but genuine friends who accept you for who you are. A lot of times I feel black men are too judgemental of each other. If you show the slightest hint of being different or having interests that don't fit the norm I notice a lot of brothers will not associate with you. A lot of brehs are walking around here as a hollow shells afraid to be their true self out of fear of being labelled as a "lame". For a long time I was too embarassed to even read in front of other people. Or admit that I knew nothing about who was playing in the play offs.

The rise of social media has only made people feel more isolated. Especially when you're constantly bombarded with the idea that everyone is doing better than you. Social media is just an echo chamber at this point. It only reinforces and intensifies any sense of isolation one may feel. You couple this with constantly being profiled by society. Women telling you how much of a peice of shyt you are. Society invalidating your feelings. Other black men who'll kill you over the slightest offense. Cops and white supremacists who want to kill you. Low economic mobility. Is it any wonder why so many brehs are at the point of suicide?

Describes me perfectly but without the suicide attempts. I don't have anyone to talk to or confide in. I'd some times go to the kitchen in the middle of the night to talk to myself for hours. Playing video games is another therapeutic activity.

Basically your life depends on having someone you can confide in/has your back? That's a sad way to live. So if the people you confude in one day get up and say screw you and cut you off then what?

Having a good support network is immensely beneficial for your mental health. You need people who you can rely on. If you got into a car accident will there be anyone visiting you at the hospital? When you're down financially and can't pay your rent, are there people who'll let you crash at their place until you can get back on your feet? Some people don't have those things and a lack of a strong social bond is fukked up.

nikkas aint getting no p*ssy

The topic of suicide is a very serious one yet here you are clowning about. Not everything is about p*ssy.

Difference is Black Women and now immigrants also have government assistance, support and can get cozy with Peckerwoods easier verses us. Plus you see alot of soft feminine docile nikkahs getting many positions within media too.

Not just media but corporate America. Black women, gays and immigrants are promoted/elevated faster than us. A strong, heterosexual black man is the antithesis to white supremacy. We're seen as a threat. They don't want us to shine.

 

[NYC Rebel]

Ok calm down bro.

You appeared to be confused by @Wild self 's post so I just provided clarification.

Even in that clarification, you dismissed the legitimacy of those come online and try too hard broads.

either way, its pointless. Putting black women and their SUCCESSFUL gathering and accountability towards one another and dismissing it is more proof that some black men have therapy sessions around bashing Black women rather than looking at the men around them and themselves.

what women do to heal has jack shyt over what we need to be doing.

 

[KidJSoul]

So far I'm on page 9 and have only seen a few solid replies. I normally just lurk, but I feel like my insight on this topic can kinda help.

I'm 23 and have been out of undergrad for about 8 months. I attended nothing but CUNY schools and vividly remember being around women ages 17-late 40s. All of these women were throwing boxes at me too. I also remember when I would look these women up on social media--at least the women between seventeen and twenty-four-- I notice they have been all over the world (DR, PR, COLUMBIA, JAMAICA, MEXICO, etc). That was intimidating for me especially since I didn't even have a passport. If I would have engaged with these women they definitely would have broke me. Guys on the Coli probably may say that they are selling box but that's not the case.

These women have something that most young Black men or even old Black men do not have. That is a friend group. They all work regular jobs and pitch in a piece to go these places while only playing fully out of pocket for their plane ticket.
Solution for Black Men: Form genuine friend groups.


Career-wise I am nowhere near my ideal destination. This is something that is hindering from pursuing real relationships. Nonetheless, I am grateful for my position. I notice that a lot of women are not playing the short game anymore compared to their older counterparts. Back in the day women chased the flashy guy and missed out on the "nerd" it seems. Women today seem to engage with every and any guy which includes giving it up. A lot of guys nowadays can't even present themselves halfway decent to be seen as a guy with "potential." I personally have seen guys in my age group take the J Cole appearance while forgetting that he took that persona on after having a few big mixtapes and making millions.
Solution for Black Men: Put a little more into appearance.

As somebody who grew up in the Black church which caused me to view Black men and Black people in general in the purest and esteem way, I had to come to terms with reality. The reality is Black men and men in general from every racial background only care about themselves. This is a hard pill to swallow. Just to stay on topic, Black men, in general, are going to hire the best for the job even if somebody else took a chance on them just because they were Black, young, and male. Or, Black men are going to hire the baddest b*tch for the position in hopes of getting some.<----------This is not race-specific either. Once I got older I realized that the Black men in my old church were not who I thought they were which affected me but taught me a valuable lesson. Never look to anybody for credibility. This works both ways. Anytime I experience some sort of microaggression it doesn't really bother me because what credibility do they have?
Solution for Black Men: Look within because every external thing is not fulfilling.




Like I said I've been on this site for years and chose to just lurk and consume information. This specific thread hit close to home so I just wanted to part some of my own thoughts in hopes it positively impacts somebody's life.



Blessings to you and yours.

Black men are the most disorganized and disoriented men on the planet. There is no true brotherhood amongst us. Brehs are quick to make themselves look good at the expense of another black man.

One thing I gotta give black women credit for is that they build genuine support systems. They form like Voltron when they want something done.

I’ve really come to notice this a lot in the last few years or so. Black women are really good at coming together and forcing national attention on specific issues affecting them. They’re really good at providing safe spaces for each other. They really put the work in to advance their causes, be they in regards to domestic and gender violence, political and socioeconomic issues, or cultural representation. They’re really working to give themselves a sense of worth and pride. I really do have to admire them for that.

And I don’t know how true what I’m saying actually is, because I’m just going off what I’ve noticed personally or read wherever. So if I am wrong here, anyone can feel free to let me know. But it feels like black men as a collective just don’t do this. That’s on us, and I 100% include myself here. Because how many of us actually organizing to push a national spotlight on our specific issues on a consistent basis? How many of us are making efforts to advance black men in political, economic, and cultural spheres, like black women do? How many of us provide the safe spaces for each other that women do?

Feels like too many black men would rather just sit around, watch black women or black LGBTQ groups do it and make gains for themselves, and complain about them while also demanding that they make space for us. Or even worse, we let black men get suckered in by grifters and conmen who promote themselves at the expense of black men’s issues while providing no actual solutions to our problems.

Black men have to care enough about other black men to do these things, so that we can instill a sense of pride and self-worth in ourselves. Because no one else is going to do it – not black women, and sure as hell not white people or non-black minorities. And why should they? This isn’t their problem. So it’s up to us to make those changes, so that shyt like this does not happen.

Youre way too angry to the point you are skewing the slightest praise towards them.

ive seen Black women fund my boys release from jail on the innocence project. Youre taking shyt too far and Im wondering if youve been around and had any lived in experiences with progressive Black women latching them to this trash.

cant we have a conversation about us without someone with limited experience on the range of Black woman bashing black women?

All solid posts. This is why I said it starts with parenting. There's some parents that don't raise their sons well, so they are not able to have the introspection required to actually understand themselves and have proper friendships.

But it's difficult though. Men can't really afford to have too tight of friendship groups. It requires a certain level of softness and vulnerability that might hurt you in other areas of life as a man don't won't hurt other women.

It's all about balance. We do need to raise boys better to have a moderate level of vulnerability.

 

[DrexlersFade]

I'll never understand why nikkas get mad about shyt like this.

Weird as fukk.

Exactly since she can't speak for all women and we know that isn't true.

 

[richaveli83]

I feel suicidal everyday but I don't want to put my mom through that agony so I don't do it. If it wasn't for her, I would have pulled the trigger already.

 

[Thegospel]

Ok calm down bro.

You appeared to be confused by @Wild self 's post so I just provided clarification.



Describes me perfectly but without the suicide attempts. I don't have anyone to talk to or confide in. I'd some times go to the kitchen in the middle of the night to talk to myself for hours. Playing video games is another therapeutic activity.


Having a good support network is immensely beneficial for your mental health. You need people who you can rely on. If you got into a car accident will there be anyone visiting you at the hospital? When you're down financially and can't pay your rent, are there people who'll let you crash at their place until you can get back on your feet? Some people don't have those things and a lack of a strong social bond is fukked up.



The topic of suicide is a very serious one yet here you are clowning about. Not everything is about p*ssy.



Not just media but corporate America. Black women, gays and immigrants are promoted/elevated faster than us. A strong, heterosexual black man is the antithesis to white supremacy. We're seen as a threat. They don't want us to shine.

No you don't need people who you can rely on. That's just your ego and weakness speaking to you. You want them you don't need them. But looking at the rest of your replies to others, I see why you need them.

 

[semicko82]

No you don't need people who you can rely on. That's just your ego and weakness speaking to you. You want them you don't need them. But looking at the rest of your replies to others, I see why you need them.

Got damn

 

[semicko82]

I feel suicidal everyday but I don't want to put my mom through that agony so I don't do it. If it wasn't for her, I would have pulled the trigger already.

Why do you feel suicidal?