This is not in fighting. Just a reminder to those who try to act like BM ain't going thru shyt
Black men report more discrimination w/ police, housing, trying to vote, etc than black women
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Lifejennings
Superstar
So this study is about how whites shyt on blacks, and the take away isn't a gameplan on what to do about it, but a contest about who has it worse? We are done.
Ricky Fontaine
Superstar
Nah.
It’s a thread about a study that debunks one of the main talking points of white supremacist collaborators within our community.
We know who those people are by their reaction to these facts and know not to allow them into any serious discourse going further.
Easy on the oppression olympics, sis.
Rell84shots
Veteran
I wonder why that is?
The funny thing is that white people need PHDs for shyt black people know just by existing.
Lifejennings
Superstar
Serious discourse on the Coli.
King of Creampies
Hop in. You coming too!
Wait they couldn't go to any major city or go talk to at least 100 black men or turn on the news for the last 10 years?
ShackZilla89
All Star
Ban that chick!!!
MischievousMonkey
Gor bu dëgër
Serious discourse on TLR.
fixed
xoxodede
Superstar
Let's not do the blame game.
Neither Black men or Black women are at fault. It's the system of White Supremacy.
But, let's be real -- and honest -- MOST Black women were not supporting Feminism back then.
White women did a lot to co-opt The Civil Rights Movement during from the 1920s - up till the 70's.
During that time they were able to gain some ground with SOME Black women -- or appear too. But, if you look into the Black women -- they were Civil Rights/Black Activist first.
What White women did was go after Black women in the Civil Rights spotlight and try to get them to join up with them -- hence making it appear that many of those Black women were Feminist -- and they were not.
Especially, being that most of Black women were from the South and still in the South. If they were not still in the South -- they migrated with their Southern families --composed of Black men, women and children -- to the Mid-West and North. Most were not going to College like that -- or even had an education past 8th grade.
The majority were always Black first -- and gender second.
The movement grew with legal victories such as the Equal Pay Act of 1963, Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, and the Griswold v. ConnecticutSupreme Court ruling of 1965. In 1966 Friedan joined other women and men to found the National Organization for Women (NOW); Friedan would be named as the organization's first president.
Despite the early successes NOW achieved under Friedan's leadership, her decision to pressure the Equal Employment Opportunity to use Title VII of the 1964 Civil Rights Act to enforce more job opportunities among American women met with fierce opposition within the organization.[18] Siding with arguments among several of the group's African-American members,[18] many of NOW's leaders were convinced that the vast number of male African-Americans who lived below the poverty line were in need of more job opportunities than women within the middle and upper class.[19] Friedan stepped down as president in 1969.
Second-wave feminism also affected other movements, such as the civil rights movement and the student's rights movement, as women sought equality within them. In 1965 Casey Hayden and Mary King published "Sex and Caste: A Kind of Memo"[26] detailing women's inequality within the civil rights organization SNCC.
Most Black women didn't have time to march and support White women and feminist -- those Black women were to busy trying to fight against White women and men who they worked for -- and their family members/husbands worked for -- who were experiencing racism, rape and violence from.Despite the early successes NOW achieved under Friedan's leadership, her decision to pressure the Equal Employment Opportunity to use Title VII of the 1964 Civil Rights Act to enforce more job opportunities among American women met with fierce opposition within the organization.[18] Siding with arguments among several of the group's African-American members,[18] many of NOW's leaders were convinced that the vast number of male African-Americans who lived below the poverty line were in need of more job opportunities than women within the middle and upper class.[19] Friedan stepped down as president in 1969.
Second-wave feminism also affected other movements, such as the civil rights movement and the student's rights movement, as women sought equality within them. In 1965 Casey Hayden and Mary King published "Sex and Caste: A Kind of Memo"[26] detailing women's inequality within the civil rights organization SNCC.
Black Women who participated in the feminist movement during the 1960s often met with racism. It generally took the form of exclusion: black women were not invited to participate on conference panels which were not specifically about black or Third World women. They were not equally, or even proportionately, represented on the faculty of Women's Studies Departments, nor were there classes devoted specifically to the study of black women's history. In most women's movement writings, the experiences of white, middle class women were described as universal "women's experiences," largely ignoring the differences of black and white women's experiences due to race and class. In addition to this, well-known black women were often treated as tokens; their work was accepted as representing "the" black experience and was rarely ever criticized or challenged.
This study examines the attitude and beliefs of nine African American women regarding the relevance of feminism to their lives. The participants live and work in two Southeastern cities in the United States: a small city of approximately 200,000 and a major metropolitan area of approximately three million. The study sketches their experiences of feminism against the backdrop of their daily lives, reviewing the women's perceptions as compared to the ideas presented in the literature by feminist scholars. The study revealed that African American women see themselves as different from White women and do not feel that the feminist movement in this country addresses the concerns of the average African American woman. In addition, while they feel that they are oppressed as women, they also felt that White women participate in this subordination as do African American men.
Shirley Chisholm: She told an interviewer in 1982 that the worst discrimination she suffered had been against her gender, not her race. "Men are men," she once declared. In order to achieve equality, women had to become revolutionaries - "We must refuse to accept the old, the traditional roles and stereotypes."
Mrs. Chisholm was an 1st Generation Immigrant who grew up in NYC -- and had a different experience and history of those Black Americans from the South. So, therefore - she could see things differently -- or choose to ignore or overlook issues of race. She was a prominent voice of Feminism -- but she did not represent Black American women.
Fannie Lou Hamer: I recently read that they were claiming Fannie Lou Hamer was a Feminist -- and that she was not. But, because white women encouraged her to join the National Women’s Political Caucus - she is now looked upon as a feminist. Which is false and a big stretch.
Rosa Parks: White women and others -- have labeled Rosa Parks a Feminist for her activist work during the 1930's-mid 50's --- and anyone who truly knows Rosa Parks story/history -- knows she was Black first -- and focused on Black people -- men, women and children.
MadameMoreaux
Pro
This is obvious to the entire black community. Men are the pillars of family and society. You destroy them and the community is doomed. Simple. This is why sisters need to put down the “independent woman” flag and support our men. It gets tricky though because you can really only do that for men with honor and integrity, and finding people with those traits, regardless of race or gender, is getting more difficult. If you find him, scoop him up and treat him like pure royalty.
KingJudah2
All Star
black women are subserviant.
ZoeGod
I’m from Brooklyn a place where stars are born.
To conquer a people you defang and eliminate the men. With that you leave the women and children helpless. This leaves the community helpless, unprotected, and leads to disorder and chaos as the men who are leaders of a community are gone.
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