Black Girls Code Turned Down $125,000 From Uber, Sees The Move As PR Stunt

[Shorty K]

Your attempts to make this about feelings ignores that people have expectations when they spend money. Aligning yourself with problematic organizations in exchange for money is a long term recipe for disaster even if it means short term benefits like being able to buy Black kids computers.

You're arguing that this is about ego when in reality it's about ethics. Uber could have silently donated money to this group if they were genuinely interested in helping anyone who isn't Uber but they NEED people to know they're donating money to minorities, that's literally the only way they'll get their money's worth.

You're still harlem shaking the question.

Which is more important to you:

140 underprivileged black girls getting $1000 programming rigged up laptops

Or

Uber not getting positive publicity off of donating to your movement.

Just answer the question. Do you really believe it is more important that Uber does not get positive publicity off your organization than the 140 black girls that money could have helped out?

Because I'm saying it's more important that those black girls get those laptops. What are YOU saying?

 

[Shoog Shatmi]

I think every company in America does. My problem isn't with Uber being racist but with my supposed kinfolk being willing pawns.

Do they have a worse reputation than most companies? I really have no idea and am curious.

 

[yyy]

Okay, I work in the tech field.

If Uber offers me the funds to quit my job and tutor black girls on how to code and mentor them.

You're telling me I should turn down the funds necessary to help uplift a group of people because it is more important that I don't feel like Uber is using me for their own benefit than actually helping black girls learn to code?

Is that really what you're saying? If someone throws you 6 figures no strings attached to help uplift a group a people, whether or not you take the money depends on how you feel about the donor?

Finally someone speaking common sense! If it's any consolation, the only Black people who think this way are people who do not fit into mainstream society. Pushed to it's logical extreme, Black people should not accept money for any company that does not employ an adequate amount of Black people because you are only there for superficial reasons. While they may not acknowledge it, there is a perverse sense of self-hatred deeply inexplicably linked with the kind of thinking because it assumes that the only reason Black people are hired is because they are Black and not because they are qualified.

I don't really care what the fukk your sister told you. The diversity problems at the company are well publicized.



Yes, when a company is using your blackness to deflect from diversity issues in their company then you should not be used as a pawn.



LOL

not only did Saint Boizma marry into money but she worked at Apple among other big name brands....she wasn't hurting for money to take a token position to be used as a pawn

For their argument to hold water, they have to assume that the only reason Bozama Saint John was hired was because she was not Black. Before Bozama Saint John was hired, Uber was in a downward spiral. Bad press after bad press was in the news. When I saw that they hired Bozama Saint John, the first thing I assumed was that she would help to chart a new direction for the company and right the ship. Did I know she was Black? Yes. But was that the main reason she was hired? Hell no. No billion dollar company is going to hire someone only because of there race. They hired her because she is amazing at what she does, and she has values that are shaped by her upbringing that align with where the company is trying to go.

Ultimately by reducing Black people, to token representatives of diversity, they do what anti-affirmative action ideologues do. They assume that the main reason you got a job was because of your race.

 

[yyy]

I'm a software developer here in Houston.

Seeing how your posting, I'm going to assume that you're safe. Hope your friends and family are safe also.

 

[im_sleep]

You know things are bad when Black men openly say they don't care if they're being used as long as they get the money. This is why the state of hip hop is the way it is.

In a time where you got nikka's willing to sell there own soul for retweets and bubblegum, you'd think it would be refreshing to see an organization NOT with the bullshyt.

 

[Matt504]

You're still harlem shaking the question.

Which is more important to you:

140 underprivileged black girls getting $1000 programming rigged up laptops

Or

Uber not getting positive publicity off of donating to your movement.

Just answer the question. Do you really believe it is more important that Uber does not get positive publicity off your organization than the 140 black girls that money could have helped out?

Because I'm saying it's more important that those black girls get those laptops. What are YOU saying?

I wouldn't take the money, fully accepting that, that means fewer resources to buy laptops.

 

[Shorty K]

I wouldn't take the money, fully accepting that, that means fewer resources to buy laptops.

So lemme get this straight, just so we're clear, you're really saying it's more important that Uber does not get positive publicity off of donating to your movement than it is to actually help people uplift themselves.

Or am I missing something? Is there anything inaccurate with that sentence? You would seriously deprive that many people of a laptop because of how you feel about Uber getting shine off your organization?

 

[Costanza]

I said I'd donate. I said we need more black men and women in the industry. I said we should all work on becoming 'the shyt' together.

Teaching black girls and boys to learn together does not mean we will all 'not be shyt together' as you suggest You're perpetuating this myth that black boys and girls can't get along.



Breh I acknowledged all of that. What I'm saying is we have so few resources to begin with, white people have 11x more wealth than us, that we should consider acting in unison where possible. We're stronger together. Black boys and black girls can learn in peace together. That's all. None of that means black girls don't have unique struggles from black boys. It simply means we should work together on getting to a standard a little higher than being 1% together at Google before we subdivide ourselves by gender. Black boys and girls are in similar, but not the same, sh*tty positions.

Use white talking points like the gender gap when both black men and women have virtually no wealth, brehs. Seems logical.

Argue over $6k vs $5k wealth while white and Asian people are arguing over $100k vs $90k

I swear some of you want to be white feminists so bad

no im not a white feminist, i'm a black man who realizes that black women make the least of any group in america. you seem to fail to realize that we can address this issue Together, without every move to raise black women's worth in the workforce being matched with "WELL WHY ARENT YOU DOING THIS FOR BLACK MEN TOO".

 

[An ashy lil fap hand]

Okay, I work in the tech field.

If Uber offers me the funds to quit my job and tutor black girls on how to code and mentor them.

You're telling me I should turn down the funds necessary to help uplift a group of people because it is more important that I don't feel like Uber is using me for their own benefit than actually helping black girls learn to code?

Is that really what you're saying? If someone throws you 6 figures no strings attached to help uplift a group a people, whether or not you take the money depends on how you feel about the donor?

It's really more important that you feel good about the money than actually helping people? Is that really what you're getting at? Because I can't see it any other way.

It depends on circumstances. This program raised the money elsewhere.

If you need capital to start, get it how you live. If you can afford to take a moral stance, you should.

It also depends on the dollar amount. It's not like they turned down a billion save the hood bucks.

I think it's case by case, but if money is just money to you, do you.

 

[Matt504]

So lemme get this straight, just so we're clear, you're really saying it's more important that Uber does not get positive publicity off of donating to your movement than it is to actually help people uplift themselves.

Or am I missing something? Is there anything inaccurate with that sentence?

What I'm saying is that it's more important to not align myself with or accept money from organizations that my values don't align with.

I understand this is difficult for you to grasp as you'd accept money from anyone if it means you can buy things for Black people in the short term but this is shortsighted.

 

[Shorty K]

It depends on circumstances. This program raised the money elsewhere.

If you need capital to start, get it how you live. If you can afford to take a moral stance, you should.

It also depends on the dollar amount. It's not like they turned down a billion save the hood bucks.

I think it's case by case, but if money is just money to you, do you.

See the bolded is where we disagree. To me, there's absolutely nothing moral about refusing money to help other people. To me, that's ego, it's not about you, it's about the person you're helping. That you see this as a moral issue kinda tells me that you're making it about you as opposed to the people you're supposed to be helping, honestly.

 

[Shorty K]

What I'm saying is that it's more important to not align myself with or accept money from organizations that my values don't align with.

I understand this is difficult for you to grasp as you'd accept money from anyone if it means you can buy things for Black people in the short term but this is shortsighted.

It's not difficult for me to grasp at all. The amount of my's in your first sentence let me know what it's all about at the end of the day, what's difficult is now I'm trying to show you how you sound to someone who's not as self-centered as you are in a way that you'll be able to understand so you understand that you're making your charity work about you rather than the people you're helping when you do something selfish like turn down 140k because of your personal feelings about the company.

 

[yyy]

Couple things. 1) She didn't know that was going to happen when she turned down uber 2) The people applauding her move applaud it on principle which means she should have turned down the deal regardless of what happened afterwards and 3) That is just money. In another post I made, I quoted an article which states that Uber was actually offering a grant that was tied to a partnership where people who work at uber actually take time and work with the girls at Black Girls Code. That face to face time and networking is easily more valuable than 140k.

 

[TELL ME YA CHEESIN FAM?]

Okay, I work in the tech field.

If Uber offers me the funds to quit my job and tutor black girls on how to code and mentor them.

You're telling me I should turn down the funds necessary to help uplift a group of people because it is more important that I don't feel like Uber is using me for their own benefit than actually helping black girls learn to code?

Is that really what you're saying? If someone throws you 6 figures no strings attached to help uplift a group a people, whether or not you take the money depends on how you feel about the donor?

It's really more important that you feel good about the money than actually helping people? Is that really what you're getting at? Because I can't see it any other way.

Come on fam..u seem to have a good heart.. but a little integrity goes a long way
They didn't just turn down the money.. they were able to raise even more on their own
They're still helping little black girls

 

[An ashy lil fap hand]

See the bolded is where we disagree. To me, there's absolutely nothing moral about refusing money to help other people. To me, that's ego, it's not about you, it's about the person you're helping. That you see this as a moral issue kinda tells me that you're making it about you as opposed to the people you're supposed to be helping, honestly.

The donation is not about help. It can be and was construed as a PR move.

Let's say you needed 100k. A company gives it to you. All you have to do is let them use your picture, forever, while they tell everyone "See, I have a black friend!".

Furthermore, it's a charitable organization for children. Yes, there is some morality involved. What kind of message does " take all the monies" send to them? Finally, my opinion is just that, because the admin admitted she made a 'layered' decision. I just happen to agree. And its OK if you FEEL that I'm making it about me. I never claimed to be altruistic.