Black Diasporic Essentials For "Liberation"

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When you get into globalizing that and creating new global financial structures based around African banks trying to make profits off the people they're supposedly trying to "help"....

I get that which is why instead of framing everything as "helping" each other....we should think of it as "engaging in smart business." They want to profit, we give them access to markets and human skill, but at the same time we have to ensure they don't engage in predatory practices and they have to ensure we are giving them a return.


Same thing goes for agriculture. You might be on the same train of thought as me, but I'm worried you throw around the phrase "modern agricultural techniques" and "fertilizer" and "tractors" a bit too loosely. Modern agricultural techniques are exactly what destroyed Western farming communities, increased unemployment, ravaged the land, reduced efficiency by acre, and have resulted in foods far less nutritional than what used to be produced.

Improvements need to be made, but if we do it via GM crops and fertilizer and pesticides and tractors, will just get higher short-term yields while ruining the long-term productivity of the land and the quality of the food. Instead, we need to focus on putting land in control of small scale farmers' hands, improving long-term soil health, the promotion of local crops meant to thrive in local conditions, a strong balance of animal and plant production together on the same farms, and fighting against large interests to get sustainable irrigation in the hands of the communities that need it. We need to take measures that put short-term and long-term food security in the lands of the communities themselves, which means labor-intensive agriculture that maximizes local employment, acre-by-acre efficiency, soil health, and food quality while minimizing pollution and the reliance on outside products for support.

Yeah I should have been more clear.....definitely don't mean GMOs but more so phone applications with farm apps that have things like spreadsheets to track data. All of this sounds great :ld:
 

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Interesting analysis. However, it doesn't address the root cause: the military strength which underpins white supremacy. Until there is a shift in military might, every step taken will, at best, alleviate some of the symptoms. It's important to be fully aware of this.

To be clear, I am not saying that nothing should be done or that your ideas are not useful - they are very useful. They could lay the groundwork and put blacks in a position to capitalize when the inevitable shift in power dynamics does happen.
 

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Interesting analysis. However, it doesn't address the root cause: the military strength which underpins white supremacy. Until there is a shift in military might, every step taken will, at best, alleviate some of the symptoms. It's important to be fully aware of this.

To be clear, I am not saying that nothing should be done or that your ideas are not useful - they are very useful. They could lay the groundwork and put blacks in a position to capitalize when the inevitable shift in power dynamics does happen.

I'm not a war general or intelligence official, fam. Strap up and support black inventors who might make groundbreaking war tech, I guess.
 

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I'm not a war general or intelligence official, fam. Strap up and support black inventors who might make groundbreaking war tech, I guess.

Yeah I know. My point is Western/European economic dominance is underpinned by military might. At the present moment, black people are not in a position to completely change the balance of power. Although by following some of the steps that you and others have outlined here, black people would be better positioned to take advantage of the imminent collapse of the Western Empire, and that in itself is more than enough reason seek self-empowerment even within the current structure.
 

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Just read the food/agriculture section. Good shyt @Poitier.

I knew Africa had a rising young population but NOT by that much!:ohmy:

I agree that farming is Africa's most abundant resource and they need to use it. I always fixated on industrialization but I now believe African countries need to fix their agriculture problem first to decrease hunger thanks to these posts.

I now also agree that agriculture is a big factor for AAs. I mean it MAKES SENSE as we would not need to get our food from the white community but directly from our source. Basically we become our own producers and this well also help black distributors.
 

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Not all but enough of it to force large amount of people off their land and keep the land from benefiting the locals. Capitalism and White supremacy at work...like always.
I meant the land they are exploiting did they buy it and own it or did they lease the land for the African governments
 

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I meant the land they are exploiting did they buy it and own it or did they lease the land for the African governments

They either buy it or use military might to take it.
 

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Is this easily reversible if another government takes power and wants to reverse it? What steps do you think a government that wanted that land back would have to take ?


In the case of a country like Ethiopia, they are complicit and don't care to reverse it.

In the DRC, they need a stable government because foreigners take advantage of the chaos.

Simply banning foreign ownership and building affordable housing would do a lot. Also incentivizing local entrepreneurship and business.
 

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^This is why I cant wait to go to Ethiopia to get in depth look at the problem and report it back to the Root. Hopefully I dont get arrested asking the locals questions about foreigners taking their land.
Ive been there. They have minorty rule. Who sell everything for nickels and pocket it. Disturbing levels of corruptions and contempt for their country.

They have several billionaires in a country with 50 billion GDP. Just think about that.
 

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In the case of a country like Ethiopia, they are complicit and don't care to reverse it.

In the DRC, they need a stable government because foreigners take advantage of the chaos.

Simply banning foreign ownership and building affordable housing would do a lot. Also incentivizing local entrepreneurship and business.
Is there anything the West could do if an African nation bans foreign ownerships and a bunch of rich cacs cry about losing their golden teet? If a non corrupt government managed to take power? Besides restrict IMF loans ?
 

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Is there anything the West could do if an African nation bans foreign ownerships and a bunch of rich cacs cry about losing their golden teet? If a non corrupt government managed to take power? Besides restrict IMF loans ?

Most would probably have a local act as as an intermediary to sign paperwork etc. other than that....they'd probably just cry i.e. Southern Africa.
 
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