Black christians, get in here and explain this: Leviticus 25:44-46

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Zeu$ said:
so why is the old testament even included in the bible if so much about it is negligible. nikkas only bring it up when its convinient for their argument but quick :whoa: when someone brings up the fallacies and just pure weirdness that pervades the OT

The OT is still very much a viable part of Christianity's history, thus it is included. Not much in the NT would make sense without it. There are very understandable reasons for all the 'weirdness' and 'fallacies' contained therein, but you'd have to actually become acquainted with the history of the region and understand why the Tanakh was written in the first place. Those who back off from speaking about it or ONLY bring it up for criticism just aren't knowledgeable about it's contents or how/why the texts were used. Even the Book of Jonah makes perfect sense when you understand what was going on then.​
 
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I believe the tree of of knowledge is what scripture says it was. Using Jewish mysticism (Kaballah) to define it is not only silly, but extra biblical. Especially since scripture frowns upon it in both the OT and NT.

But to each his own.
Jewish mysticism?.
I'm going by the things that was in the bible such as the example I gave of moses and the egyptians. If you read the bible with an open mind, there is a high chance you are deaing with people competting with each other using magic. I doubt there was a tree that had fruit that once eaten will let you know good from bad(which is subjective btw) and a talking snake told a&e to eat it so they can be just like God. Think man. If all you needed to be just like God was to know right and wrong, teenagers would be Gods everywhere. We know that isn't the case. That story alone sounds like a fairy tale that involves MAGIC. WAKE UP. Where in the natural world can you eat something and know things like God does?. Or have a snake talk to you. NO WHERE. You dis the thought of magic yet the story itself is a magical fairy tale that is speaking in metaphor. You took it literally. WAKE UP YOUR MINDS EYE. You have been sleeping too long.

Also that means you think the tree of life was really a tree that gave life but, chances are you're going to say that was jesus right?.

The whole point of monotheism was to destroy the idea that 'magic' worked at all.​
That may have been the point but not MY point. Just because you make a religion doesn't mean magic won't work anymore or it isn't real. Just because the God of moses used him to compete wit the egyptians to prove he is the real god doesn't mean he wasn't using magic. It just meant he was the supreme wizard. He was still using magic regardless of his position. This is probably why when adam & eve took in the fruit, the gods stated man is like them knowing good and evil(in other words knowing magic to help and magic to hurt). They were banned from the garden out of fear they would gain access to the tree of life which may have been immortality, which means man when have been his competition to control the world. Thats a problem because he already had satan to deal with. Even to this day man goes through all types of things to find this knowledge of mimmortality. They call it a cure for sickness and being healthy but it's really try to find the knowledge to live forever. They have spent billions of dollars on this and still haven't found the answers. They do have the magic game on lock(at least better then the rest of the animal kingdom), and we know why if you open your eyes.

Like I stated once you change the way you view magic, you start looking at the world different. You can laugh at me or call me names but from my experience and thoughts of the world, I think we are all under one big spell and religion is the driving force to keep you in that spell. Look around you, look at how you eat, look at what you think, and do it in depth, you will see it is all really half truths and trickery of your thinking that you was taught to have out of fear or to pleasure your ego.

Something like holidays is very important because it causes millions of people to come together for one common cause and have a group consciousnes which the "magician" can use to keep you in the spell. I don't think it's a coincidence they mostly involve some sort of sacrifise such as thanksgiving or christmas. Have you seen a voodoo ceremony, they sacrifice a goat or chicken, we use a turkey on thanksgiving. When you look at the wizard of oz, you can get an idea of how this works but, the thought is so out there people don't even want to give it any thought. Their egos are so big that there is no way they are being controlled by some "invisible" man. If ONE person can get hypnotized and do whatever they are told to do without a thought(I have seen this with myown eyes), what makes you think millions can't when they don't even know they are being hypnotized, which means they will be more likely to become hypnotized since relaxation allows it to happen easier then being highly aware. If you are serious aboutnlearning about the unknown like most religious/spiritual claim, then younhave to start observing your surroundings and not just keep the learning to reading books, and most people just read books that deal with what they want to believe. This is a wrong way to live if you want to find answers. You need to observe everything around you, question it, and find ways to get answers. Not just believe something because you feel that way. That is a start but not the whole way. Your emotions can change at anytime depending on the smallest thing like being hungry. Thinking emotionally is dangerous but because most people think like that, it's so easy to trick them. They go by what they see on the surface or what they are used to.
 
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...spoken with such authority...:wow:






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I'd like to claim it exclusively as mine because it's a nice quote :manny:, but I know I heard it somewhere. Just can't remember LOL.

I'm gonna use my IT certs after work to find out breh...as a partner at Breh & Associates, LLC its my moral obligation to ensure that you're well protected during these demonic, times.:sitdown:
 

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lotty said:
That may have been the point but not MY point. Just because you make a religion doesn't mean magic won't work anymore or it isn't real.

You misunderstand. Monotheism isn't a 'religion'. Monotheism was a revolutionary ideology and a response to polytheism. If polytheism were 'true', 'magic' would work. 'Magic' does not work.
 

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You misunderstand. Monotheism isn't a 'religion'. Monotheism was a revolutionary ideology and a response to polytheism. If polytheism were 'true', 'magic' would work. 'Magic' does not work.
Come on man, now you're playing word games. You know ALL religion is based on ideology, this is a given. Once you establish your ideology you do something with it, and in this case, it is to start a religion. Like I stated I think ALL of these religions and spiritual beliefs people have followed and are still following, are nothing but wizards who mastered trickery(magic) using this knowledge to have power within the world. You have a false belief that only people who believed in more then one god did magic when in reality they ALL participated in it. Readinthe bible will let you see this. A burning bush, staffs turning into snakes, a talking snake, a fruit when eaten giving knowledge of good and bad, making man out of dirt and a woman out of a rib etc. If you can't see these are magical fairytales telling a deeper realistic story then you don't want to see. Which I can understand, since it is too scarey for some to believe so they would rather believe the stories literally as it helps them notsee how wild the world really is which means they have been tricked.
 

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lotty said:
Come in man, now you're playing word games. You know ALL religion is based on ideology, this is a given.

There is no word for 'religion' in ancient Hebrew. I've read through the entire Bible several times and am pretty familiar with what's in it. The reason the Israelites created monotheism was as a critique of neighboring Ancient Near East civilizations. It wasn't to 'start a religion' since that concept didn't come into being until the first century.....2 centuries after the last Book of the Tanakh was written. Also, you're going off on a tangent since nowhere did I state that only polytheists believed in 'magic'. I stated that if polytheism were 'true', 'magic' would work.​
 
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