"Black Americans culture literally corrupt any melanatd group that identifies with them." - Deluuxe

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See, now you're playing the game of the "mainstream".

We are NOT your enemy, so please stop making up shyt to make a point that isn't true. This goes for others who just have to one up black Americans, or try to make us feel like we aren't shyt.

AGAIN, THERE IS GOOGLE!:troll:

Yes, some of us black American nikkas do research when someone tells us something:whoo:


Crime in Chicago
Crime type Rate*
Chicago
Crime rates (2014)
Homicide: 15.1

Black History Month 2012: Review: Viva Riva!

Kinshasa has a homicide rate of 112 per 100,000. The homicide rate in Detroit is 34.4 per 100,000. In New Orleans there are 54.4 homicides per 100,000. St. Louis has 45.1 homicides per 100,000.
that was 2004 during the second congo war. I have google too. try again.

and stop with the melodramatic bullshyt no one is against you.
 

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On the surface Deluux has a point, but it's a very simplistic point of view. We're not talking about youths who were on their path to be doctors and lawyers until they were exposed to the dark magic of AA culture. These are youths who took on the expression of AA culture because they could symphatize with it - meaning they already felt this way (being a minority with lower social and economic status).
 

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that was 2004 during the second congo war. I have google too. try again.

and stop with the melodramatic bullshyt no one is against you.
Then prove it. You made the claim, yet with no proof. When I give proof, you claim its old, but how do you know the number has gotten lower, or at least significantly. I've looked, and have yet to find a new, lower number.

If you prove it, I will concede. If not, then I will go by what has been shown, and not what you are trying to sell to me.

And stop being so damn angry, I can tell from your post you're passive aggressive in real life. Stop being so emotional. That little flip of no one being against me, was corny. Instead of dealing with what I wrote you're trying to play reverse psychology with something I wrote to you! Please stop with the childish mind games.
 
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@Deluuxe I agree that the street terrorist and degenerates have a hold on the consciousness of too many of us, but what about those who do not fall into that category and are public figures?

Personal responsibility means nothing if not complimented by societal responsibility, and vice versa
When a person has a diverse image of blackness, then still chooses the negative aspect, then that person is at fault

Every culture around the world, from the most democratic to the most religious has a criminal element. But how many of those criminal elements are capable of making legit money from being a known degenerate or portraying a degenerate?
 

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Black Population in England: Mostly Africans and Carribeans. Identify as black. Thugs, criminals, etc. They take on the ideology of "being black"
Black Population in Canada: Mostly Africans and Carribeans. Identify as black. Thugs, criminals, etc. They take on the ideology of "being black"

You'll notice the ones who stick close to African or Caribbean identity will not fall into this trap. The minute they think they're black and start identifying with Black Americans its a wrap :snoop:
Every culture has its negative side. You can't blame a whole group of people and their culture just because some Maple Leaf Losers want to pretend to be Nino Brown. Your going to be exposed to a lot of negative shyt in life but that doesn't mean you have to emulate it.
 

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These negros love to deflect. These downtrodden black folk in the western world identify with the underbelly of black america because they are taught the same victim rhetoric that they are taught, they are following the same people, which is also why you guys as a collective think all the same, its like a cult. You guys always cry about black people not being on the same page but they are on the same victim, crybaby, white supremacy page and its not doing shyt for them. There are other groups that live in poverty but are not killing themselves like the blacks are, how do you explain that? How do you explain why the other minorities come to your neighbourhood and open up all the businesses and own everything but you don't? Its white supremacy right?:russ:, the whites allowed your carribean and african parents into Canada because they wanted to bound you up. Its the negro victim mentality compounded with the goon hood mentality. Keep deflecting it though, you'll stay exactly in the position you are in now.
 

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On the surface Deluux has a point, but it's a very simplistic point of view. We're not talking about youths who were on their path to be doctors and lawyers until they were exposed to the dark magic of AA culture. These are youths who took on the expression of AA culture because they could symphatize with it - meaning they already felt this way (being a minority with lower social and economic status).


These negros love to deflect. These downtrodden black folk in the western world identify with the underbelly of black america because they are taught the same victim rhetoric that they are taught, they are following the same people, which is also why you guys as a collective think all the same, its like a cult. You guys always cry about black people not being on the same page but they are on the same victim, crybaby, white supremacy page and its not doing shyt for them. There are other groups that live in poverty but are not killing themselves like the blacks are, how do you explain that? How do you explain why the other minorities come to your neighbourhood and open up all the businesses and own everything but you don't? Its white supremacy right?:russ:, the whites allowed your carribean and african parents into Canada because they wanted to bound you up. Its the negro victim mentality compounded with the goon hood mentality. Keep deflecting it though, you'll stay exactly in the position you are in now.
 

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These negros love to deflect. These downtrodden black folk in the western world identify with the underbelly of black america because they are taught the same victim rhetoric that they are taught, they are following the same people, which is also why you guys as a collective think all the same, its like a cult. You guys always cry about black people not being on the same page but they are on the same victim, crybaby, white supremacy page and its not doing shyt for them. There are other groups that live in poverty but are not killing themselves like the blacks are, how do you explain that? How do you explain why the other minorities come to your neighbourhood and open up all the businesses and own everything but you don't? Its white supremacy right?:russ:, the whites allowed your carribean and african parents into Canada because they wanted to bound you up. Its the negro victim mentality compounded with the goon hood mentality. Keep deflecting it though, you'll stay exactly in the position you are in now.

Cool down. You're a hot mess right now bro. We're not discussing all of that other stuff you're talking about. We're discussing whether or not African Americans are to blame for other black people's problems. Your stubbornness has brought you off topic.

You jumped the gun by putting a bunch of words in my mouth. Of course there are problems in the black community that we need to take responsibility for, when have I ever said otherwise? I'm simply arguing that it's quite bold to hold African Americans alone accountable for the situation that we as black people find ourselves in today.

Yes, it is true that we are the only people who allow the most ignorant among us to be our representatives, but there is a reason why people resonate with certain messages. I grew up in Scandinavia where not only black people identified with Hip-Hop, but Arabs, Pakistanis, Turks, Eastern-Europeans and disenfranchised white boys aswell. You're from Toronto so I'm sure you've seen similar things. I'm simply saying that people, especially people from low income communities, around the world gravitated towards AA culture because it spoke to them. If they didnt have the crips/bloods, then those blacks would have imitated rude boys/yardies from Jamaica, or just made up their own identity.

My dad is from Africa, and in his country you see the exact same thing that you mentioned; people of other ethnicities opening up businesses in black neighbourhoods. This is a black problem, and it's completely insane to blame only one segment of blacks for it. Our people had tribal wars before African Americans even existed. You said that the problems stems from the way AAs have defined blackness, but in Africa they don't even identify with the AAs and yet they have the same problems. So you can see that your theory is very easy to falsify.
 

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These negros love to deflect. These downtrodden black folk in the western world identify with the underbelly of black america because they are taught the same victim rhetoric that they are taught, they are following the same people, which is also why you guys as a collective think all the same, its like a cult. You guys always cry about black people not being on the same page but they are on the same victim, crybaby, white supremacy page and its not doing shyt for them. There are other groups that live in poverty but are not killing themselves like the blacks are, how do you explain that? How do you explain why the other minorities come to your neighbourhood and open up all the businesses and own everything but you don't? Its white supremacy right?:russ:, the whites allowed your carribean and african parents into Canada because they wanted to bound you up. Its the negro victim mentality compounded with the goon hood mentality. Keep deflecting it though, you'll stay exactly in the position you are in now.

Actually, you do see this phenomena in other populations in the world. You see similar situations among the Maori population in New Zealand, and this argument can be made by the indigenous population in Australia. It is worst especially in country like Australia and indigenous is ban from purchasing alcohol. In New Zealand you see the same signs of outside groups utilizing the country services, whereas the locals out left out of the economic equation.

Whenever you have two historically enemies groups, the results is always nearly the same.
 

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Cool down. You're a hot mess right now bro. We're not discussing all of that other stuff you're talking about. We're discussing whether or not African Americans are to blame for other black people's problems. Your stubbornness has brought you off topic.

You jumped the gun by putting a bunch of words in my mouth. Of course there are problems in the black community that we need to take responsibility for, when have I ever said otherwise? I'm simply arguing that it's quite bold to hold African Americans alone accountable for the situation that we as black people find ourselves in today.

Yes, it is true that we are the only people who allow the most ignorant among us to be our representatives, but there is a reason why people resonate with certain messages. I grew up in Scandinavia where not only black people identified with Hip-Hop, but Arabs, Pakistanis, Turks, Eastern-Europeans and disenfranchised white boys aswell. You're from Toronto so I'm sure you've seen similar things. I'm simply saying that people, especially people from low income communities, around the world gravitated towards AA culture because it spoke to them. If they didnt have the crips/bloods, then those blacks would have imitated rude boys/yardies from Jamaica, or just made up their own identity.

My dad is from Africa, and in his country you see the exact same thing that you mentioned; people of other ethnicities opening up businesses in black neighbourhoods. This is a black problem, and it's completely insane to blame only one segment of blacks for it. Our people had tribal wars before African Americans even existed. You said that the problems stems from the way AAs have defined blackness, but in Africa they don't even identify with the AAs and yet they have the same problems. So you can see that your theory is very easy to falsify.

They can identify with it too but they're not creating chicago in how they kill each other, those other races that emulate this culture also have their own culture, race, and even religion to act as a barrier to not get too emerged in it. Black Americans specifically have this thing where they absolutely refuse to take responsibility for anything they do, they are biggest victims, read these forums and how they think, constantly winning over the pettiest shyt, and they pass this garbage down. Now you have blacks in Toronto marching for black lives matter because the police are carding them. The police are carding them because they represent the criminal element in the city, but are they going to address that issue? Nope they march and cry white supremacy same shyt they see the black americans doing. The issue, is not addressing the issue. The 1st generation came and worked hard mostly in low end jobs the 2nd generation was suppose to go get educated and climb the ladder. That is not happening because you have black people creating this boogeyman victim white supremacy mentality in these folks. The 2nd gen completely dropped the ball.
 

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Actually, you do see this phenomena in other populations in the world. You see similar situations among the Maori population in New Zealand, and this argument can be made by the indigenous population in Australia. It is worst especially in country like Australia and indigenous is ban from purchasing alcohol. In New Zealand you see the same signs of outside groups utilizing the country services, whereas the locals out left out of the economic equation.

Whenever you have two historically enemies groups, the results is always nearly the same.

If this is the case and whites are their enemies then why do they think these whites are going to help them? Why are they marching towards them? They should then take care of themselves. When you ask these guys how to fight "white supremacy", they say with group economics... something that has absolutely nothing to do with whites, and exactly what they are whining to whites for doing, creating opportunity and working for their people. They'll then say the country was built on their labour, but nobody gives a fukk and they're not going to give you shyt, so you might as well get over it. But the victim in them won't let them do it. They're waiting for someone to do it for them.

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They can identify with it too but they're not creating chicago in how they kill each other, those other races that emulate this culture also have their own culture, race, and even religion to act as a barrier to not get too emerged in it. Black Americans specifically have this thing where they absolutely refuse to take responsibility for anything they do, they are biggest victims, read these forums and how they think, constantly winning over the pettiest shyt, and they pass this garbage down. Now you have blacks in Toronto marching for black lives matter because the police are carding them. The police are carding them because they represent the criminal element in the city, but are they going to address that issue? Nope they march and cry white supremacy same shyt they see the black americans doing. The issue, is not addressing the issue. The 1st generation came and worked hard mostly in low end jobs the 2nd generation was suppose to go get educated and climb the ladder. That is not happening because you have black people creating this boogeyman victim white supremacy mentality in these folks. The 2nd gen completely dropped the ball.

I'm sure there are many things black people have to take responsibility for and there are many things white supremacy is responsible for. You take a very aggressive stance in that debate, and I'm not going to go there right now because I feel like it's a seperate issue.

I just have to speak up when you blame African Americans for other black peoples problems, when those same problems existed before African Americans did. You're upset about other black people adopting AAs victim mentality in blaming their problems on white supremacy. Then you take on a victim mentality and blame AAs for other black peoples problems.
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That is hyprocracy.

I think it's commendable that you're willing to take such an unpopular position, but I firmly disagree with you.

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I'm sure there are many things black people have to take responsibility for and there are many things white supremacy is responsible for. You take a very aggressive stance in that debate, and I'm not going to go there right now because I feel like it's a seperate issue.

I just have to speak up when you blame African Americans for other black peoples problems, when those same problems existed before African Americans did. You're upset about other black people adopting AAs victim mentality in blaming their problems on white supremacy. Then you take on a victim mentality and blame AAs for other black peoples problem. That is hyprocracy.

I think it's commendable that you're willing to take such an unpopular position, but I firmly disagree with you.

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Its not hypocrisy because AAs get but hurt the minute anyone does not identify as black with them. I wish I could find the thread on how some jamaican kid corrected a teacher for calling him black and how butthurt AAs on here got. America is also the biggest media system and black americans are a part of it so other "blacks" will identify with people who they think they're the same as, and take on the same mentality as these people living in the western world.
 
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